What happened to TOTD's Chris Cornell???

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  • Mike_Muse_Rage
    Mike_Muse_Rage Posts: 677
    JimNastics wrote:
    It's a shame Clare is being dragged along by all this... back in the Audioslave days she was a fantastic member of the community and well liked up all. Now she's become a laughing stock as the apparent ring-leader of the whole street-team / fanatic thing. I guess as the owner of the main CC fan site she's got no choice but to play along, either that or give up the whole thing. But still, that whole album review thing a few posts back was just dreadful, I doubt very much she even believes half of what she wrote deep down. It's all very sad :( I'd love to be able to go through old Audioslaved / CC forum posts she wrote years back, and see how much she's changed her tune in terms of genres / snobbery / artisitic dignity etc...
    She'll always stick with Chris. As soon as Audioslave announced the split she immediately stopped posting and ended her involvement with the Audiophiles fan club. No need to discuss the memories or thank the fan club, on with the next project!
  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Mike_Muse_Rage wrote:
    She'll always stick with Chris. As soon as Audioslave announced the split she immediately stopped posting and ended her involvement with the Audiophiles fan club. No need to discuss the memories or thank the fan club, on with the next project!

    Not only that, she went from adoration and praise of the AS boys to pointing out their musical limitations in a big hurry. I actually liked her at one point but now I can't take her seriously.
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  • yahamita
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    eyedclaar wrote:
    Not only that, she went from adoration and praise of the AS boys to pointing out their musical limitations in a big hurry. I actually liked Clare at one point but now I can't take her seriously.
    My thoughts exactly!!! She was so pumped and positive and got everyone in the mood for Chris, now this...I had total respect for her until she wrote to me and told me to "Be Brave" and explain myself to the team for my action of posting in these threads. I would love to post my response back to the team, but I'm not into the drama..
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  • Yellow Ledbelly
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    He was eaten by the dingo
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  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    yahamita wrote:
    My thoughts exactly!!! She was so pumped and positive and got everyone in the mood for Chris, now this...I had total respect for her until she wrote to me and told me to "Be Brave" and explain myself to the team for my action of posting in these threads. I would love to post my response back to the team, but I'm not into the drama..


    Jeebus! Seriously Yahamita, getting booted from that nasty little clique was probably the best thing that could have happened to you.
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    dont bring up specific peoples names guys! thats what got the first CC thread closed! its slanderous... i wanna keep things ones going as long as possible since i like the constructive conversation... its therapeutic for me :D
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  • yahamita
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    sgossard3 wrote:
    dont bring up specific peoples names guys! thats what got the first CC thread closed! its slanderous... i wanna keep things ones going as long as possible since i like the constructive conversation... its therapeutic for me :D
    Good call..I'm glad I type "she"....can everyone else edit their posts, please. this is the most excitement these boards have had in weeks!
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  • dust
    dust Posts: 133
    I'm just so, so sad. There is so much wrong with all of this I don't even know where to start. What get's me most is the treatment of the people who actually give a crap about this guys music. Do you think on any level he actually realises the extent to which he is alienating himself from everyone? I'd be devastated.......
  • JOEJOEJOE
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    yahamita wrote:
    My thoughts exactly!!! She was so pumped and positive and got everyone in the mood for Chris, now this...I had total respect for her until she wrote to me and told me to "Be Brave" and explain myself to the team for my action of posting in these threads. I would love to post my response back to the team, but I'm not into the drama..

    It's as if CC is some sort of cult leader, and they are preparing his minions for the final drink of kool aid.
  • yahamita
    yahamita Posts: 1,514
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    It's as if CC is some sort of cult leader, and they are preparing his minions for the final drink of kool aid.
    CC is the new JJ(Jim Jones!!!)OMG!
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  • Marie Curie
    Marie Curie Posts: 1,250
    yahamita wrote:
    My thoughts exactly!!! She was so pumped and positive and got everyone in the mood for Chris, now this...I had total respect for her until she wrote to me and told me to "Be Brave" and explain myself to the team for my action of posting in these threads. I would love to post my response back to the team, but I'm not into the drama..

    I would love to read what she wrote and your response to her!
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  • Kilgore_Trout
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    dust wrote:
    I'm just so, so sad. There is so much wrong with all of this I don't even know where to start. What get's me most is the treatment of the people who actually give a crap about this guys music. Do you think on any level he actually realises the extent to which he is alienating himself from everyone? I'd be devastated.......
    at the same time though i can see why he might WANT to alienate himself from his past... i mean his biggest fans are from his SG days which are also personally his darkest days... maybe he felt his fans didnt support him enough with his alcohol dependency back in the day or there are some that wish he still had those demon to give an edge to his music thats no longer there... or maybe hes just a big dick :p
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  • reeferchief
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    eyedclaar wrote:
    Jeebus! Seriously Yahamita, getting booted from that nasty little clique was probably the best thing that could have happened to you.

    Yeah I'd see it as a blessing.
    Can not be arsed with life no more.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    yahamita wrote:
    CC is the new JJ(Jim Jones!!!)OMG!

    HH
    (ha ha!)

    Jim Jones
    Jim James
    JJ Jackson
    Jesse Jackson
    Chris Cornell
    CC Deville
    start an I V with 2 CC's of ringers.
  • warden
    warden Posts: 99
    NewDamage wrote:
    I finally watched it. All I can say is what...the...fuck??? Chris Cornell and the Pussycat Dolls shouldn't even be in the same fucking state at the same time.

    There's been so many threads and posts about CC's downfall, that there isn't much left to say that hasn't been said. All I can say is, as a longtime fan, I have never been so disappointed by a "musical evolution" of a favorite band/artist in my life. Along with Pearl Jam, Soundgarden's music helped define various aspects of my teenage years. In the early to mid 90s I bled Soundgarden. Collected everything I could get my hands on. Saw 9 shows, and keep in mind I was a teenager and they weren't exactly playing in my backyard. I traveled a lot. Still my favorite band to this day. I even played the hell out of all the Audioslave records. To see their amazing frontman turn to this, its a feeling I can't explain. Its getting to the point where its not gonna matter if he makes an amazing "return to form" in the future. Between this bullshit and what's gone on with his boards and having all the "yes" people around him...fuck it
    Nice post. I used to post on the CC forums. I got so sick of all the apologists so I stopped going there.

    I can completely understand your sadness over what CC has become.

    And that video... wow. For the last several months, just when I thought CC was at rock bottom, he gets even lower. That video was pathetic. It's not just dissapointing... it actually angers me. What a joke Timbaland is... is that supposed to be talent??

    Honest to God, I was going to buy "Scream" even though I hated all the songs. After watching that video, there's no way I can buy it. I can NOT endorse that bull crap. Good luck, Chris. Thank you for everything through Carry On.
  • NewDamage
    NewDamage Posts: 1,913
    warden wrote:
    Nice post. I used to post on the CC forums. I got so sick of all the apologists so I stopped going there.

    I can completely understand your sadness over what CC has become.

    And that video... wow. For the last several months, just when I thought CC was at rock bottom, he gets even lower. That video was pathetic. It's not just dissapointing... it actually angers me. What a joke Timbaland is... is that supposed to be talent??

    Honest to God, I was going to buy "Scream" even though I hated all the songs. After watching that video, there's no way I can buy it. I can NOT endorse that bull crap. Good luck, Chris. Thank you for everything through Carry On.

    Timbaland was like the puppet master during that video. Truly a disgusting thing to behold.

    I was going to buy it too. Even after hearing 5 full songs. Merely because I own every song that has been officially or unofficially released, that Cornell has put vocals on. Like I said before I'm a collector. But as strange as it might feel to pass on this one despite the pile of shit it is, I would feel even more disappointed knowing I was responsible for the purchase of even one copy of this horrific excuse for music.

    I hate this type of music, always have. No matter who performs it. If this were truly a collaboration, it probably could've been something pretty special. That is why I tried to stay open minded even though I was skeptical as hell. But its not. Its just Timbaland pulling the strings, and the only thing Chris Cornell-ish about the whole thing is his vocals. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't write a thing on it. That was my worst fear about it, and seems "whatsoever I feared has come to light."

    I liked the quote you mentioned. Cornell once said "music that is driven by money deserves to fail." Seems everything he ever stood for, his musical integrity, is "long gone"
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  • searchlightsoul
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    eyedclaar wrote:
    I'm not sure I follow your logic, but then again, I'm not sure I could possibly follow the logic of someone supporting CC at this point. Anyway, how does having 500 posts on the PJ message board prevent one from being a cc street teamer?

    I made it pretty clear I don't like his new music so I hardly see how that makes me a street teamer. It also demonstrates that you don't read posts or can't comprehend them because I certainly haven't changed my position abruptly. I make no apologies for supporting Cornell-the guy made music that changed my life-and one solo record isn't going to change that.
  • Kilgore_Trout
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    SOLAT319 wrote:
    Well, he doesn't have to have an "alcohol dependency" if he wants an edge to his music again. All he has to do is to look around and see the state this country is in. That will give him something to be angry about. He should just ask Whitepants, he'll tell him all about it.
    oh we all saw how well chris did pretending to care about politics with audioslave... :rolleyes:
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  • CCRefugee
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    sgossard3 wrote:
    at the same time though i can see why he might WANT to alienate himself from his past... i mean his biggest fans are from his SG days which are also personally his darkest days... maybe he felt his fans didnt support him enough with his alcohol dependency back in the day or there are some that wish he still had those demon to give an edge to his music thats no longer there... or maybe hes just a big dick :p

    But he should wear that as a badge of honor, because it means people related to where he was, and what he had to say meant something to them.
    It could have been helpful to some.

    Does anyone relate to him now? What does his music say?

    Yeah, people that say he needs various muses back in order to make the music they want to hear are assholes, but he shouldn't be throwing the baby out with the bathwater either, and the people were Soundgarden fans aren't the reason his life went in the direction it did. He was the reason his life went in the direction it did.

    So, if his reaction to that is killing that particular "Chris" (and's he's written quite a few times of this) by cutting everyone off... that's pretty sad.

    It's typical of the intervention, though. They feel you're too weak to be able to deal with your past. I think it's wrong.
  • eyedclaar
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    searchlightsoul wrote:
    I made it pretty clear I don't like his new music so I hardly see how that makes me a street teamer. It also demonstrates that you don't read posts or can't comprehend them because I certainly haven't changed my position abruptly. I make no apologies for supporting Cornell-the guy made music that changed my life-and one solo record isn't going to change that.

    Relax, Francis. Find the post where I specifically called YOU a street teamer and then we'll talk about reading comprehension. Something about your defensive nature though... Methinks thou doth protest too much.
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