Wouldn't Sigur Ros be 50 times better if they sang in English?

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  • xSmackSoundx
    xSmackSoundx Posts: 479
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    If words had unlimited meaning, then Sigur Ros' music could have meaning to you no matter what language it was in.

    Words in general have unlimited meaning in who it pertains to as far as understanding.
  • mattcozea
    mattcozea Posts: 377
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    If words had unlimited meaning, then Sigur Ros' music could have meaning to you no matter what language it was in.
    But the problem is that it isn't in any language, just a bunch of gibberish. What they're singing is completely meaningless, it's all about the music and the singing is just another instrument.
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  • justam
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    mattcoz wrote:
    But the problem is that it isn't in any language, just a bunch of gibberish. What they're singing is completely meaningless, it's all about the music and the singing is just another instrument.


    It's a vocalise. (Something that is sung and has a melody but no words.)
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  • mattcozea
    mattcozea Posts: 377
    justam wrote:
    It's a vocalise. (Something that is sung and has a melody but no words.)
    "it's rather a form of gibberish vocals that fits to the music and acts as another instrument"

    If they call it gibberish then I can call it gibberish. ;)
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  • Joe2TheRevenge
    Joe2TheRevenge Posts: 904
    xSmackSoundx wrote:
    I see what your getting at... and no I'm not racist... I just like to understand what i'm hearing..


    why should they have to sing in your language? why don't you learn theirs?
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  • Benzor
    Benzor Posts: 886
    I don't understand a word they are saying and I love it. Not being able to understand the words gives each songs its own personal meaning to me. It great, its unique, and I love it.
  • xSmackSoundx
    xSmackSoundx Posts: 479
    Joe2TheRevenge wrote:
    why should they have to sing in your language? why don't you learn theirs?

    because I don't care about their music as much from their perspective wouldn't it be wise to serve a larger audience and give themselves a larger impact? Not to be sellouts.. but to give their music meaning without making it cumbersome for the main array of their fans..

    and if it just another instrument... why add it at all? I think I could enjoy their music much more without singing at all it makes me wonder every time what they are saying.. and it doesn't even sound good..
  • Joe2TheRevenge
    Joe2TheRevenge Posts: 904
    xSmackSoundx wrote:
    because I don't care about their music as much from their perspective wouldn't it be wise to serve a larger audience and give themselves a larger impact? Not to be sellouts.. but to give their music meaning without making it cumbersome for the main array of their fans..

    and if it just another instrument... why add it at all? I think I could enjoy their music much more without singing at all it makes me wonder every time what they are saying.. and it doesn't even sound good..

    here...

    http://www.alwaysontherun.net/sigur.htm

    Now you know what they're saying.

    Enjoy.
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  • Blind Melon
    Blind Melon Posts: 911
    ( ) , some of Takk... and one song on the new album are sung in Hopelandic, which was made up by Jonsi (the lead singer) as being the stage before actual singing, so he's using his voice as an instrument, which is just absolutely astonishing... it fits the music so perfectly. It's mainly about the instrumentation in this band and the emotional experience you get/feel from the music... as for me, I fucking love this band, their music is just phenomenal and so overwhelming at times, but not everyone's the same.
    If I could, think I would give in.
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    xSmackSoundx wrote:
    because I don't care about their music as much from their perspective wouldn't it be wise to serve a larger audience and give themselves a larger impact? Not to be sellouts.. but to give their music meaning without making it cumbersome for the main array of their fans..

    and if it just another instrument... why add it at all? I think I could enjoy their music much more without singing at all it makes me wonder every time what they are saying.. and it doesn't even sound good..
    main array of THEIR fans? thats a HUGE assumption... based on this thread alone id say THEIR fans like their music exactly how it is... it makes exactly the impact right now that they want it to... if its not for you then just dont listen to them... there are america bands with a similar sound that you can listen to instead of trying to change sigur ros...

    i have yet to hear a convincing argument in this thread for sigur ros singing in english
    xSmackSoundx wrote:
    Music has limited meaning... words have unlimited meaning...
    and i agree with whoever said its the other way around... its like "a picture is worth 1,000 words"... id say "a song is worth 1,000 words" too... if you disagree than you should pic up a book instead of listening to music because youre drastically minimalizing the impact music can have!
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  • LavaLamp_GuitarTramp
    LavaLamp_GuitarTramp Posts: 143
    xSmackSoundx wrote:
    Nobody can even understand WTF he is even saying... That is what turns me off to most of their music... it has good emotion but it means nothing to me in any way... and its not even beautiful (just the language, Not the music)... at some parts the language actually sounds kind of nasty with the german "ch" sound

    blah blah blah blah cry cry cry cry whine whine whine whine bitch bitch bitch bitch moan moan moan moan whah whah whah whah
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  • LavaLamp_GuitarTramp
    LavaLamp_GuitarTramp Posts: 143
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    they'd be 50 times better if they never picked up any instruments again.

    They're actually great musicians...This is coming from someone with a degree in music.
    Shows how little you know.
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  • LavaLamp_GuitarTramp
    LavaLamp_GuitarTramp Posts: 143
    xSmackSoundx wrote:
    Music has limited meaning... words have unlimited meaning...

    That's very assbackwards, but I appreciate your attempt at wisdom.
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  • LavaLamp_GuitarTramp
    LavaLamp_GuitarTramp Posts: 143
    xSmackSoundx wrote:
    No, i'm right... just think about it...

    I did. I thought long & hard. I even meditated. You're very, very wrong.
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  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    No.


    Music goes beyond language....


    What I love about them is how accurately they mirror my thoughts and feelings in their sounds.....


    It sounds cheesy (but TRUE) music is a universal language.....


    'The nothingness of music can be moulded by the mood of the listener into the most precise shapes or allowed to float as free as thoughts...' - Stephen Fry
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    This is the silliest thread I've read in a long time.

    While we're at it, why don't we make all great foreign films and foreign classic novels English as well?

    I believe (I may be wrong) that the most frequently spoken language in the world is Chinese. Maybe Pearl Jam should learn chinese to increase their fan base.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    This is the silliest thread I've read in a long time.

    While we're at it, why don't we make all great foreign films and foreign classic novels English as well?

    not a great analogy my friend as all foreign films usually have subtitles to allow English speakers to be able to follow the movie.. Sigur Ros dont. and if its a foreign classic then that book will have been translated and published in English... but i knew what ye meant ;)
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I believe (I may be wrong) that the most frequently spoken language in the world is Chinese. Maybe Pearl Jam should learn chinese to increase their fan base.

    Ed can order the whole menu from his local restaurant... give the guy a freakin break!!! :rolleyes:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    dunkman wrote:
    not a great analogy my friend as all foreign films usually have subtitles to allow English speakers to be able to follow the movie.. Sigur Ros dont. and if its a foreign classic then that book will have been translated and published in English... but i knew what ye meant ;)

    I can see why you thought that was my point but the fact is, these classics were written in the mother tongue of the director/author. If we'd ask them to all speak our language we might've got shit, not art.

    Hehe.

    But on your point, they could publish Sigur Ros' lyrics in English in their liner notes couldn't they? But they don't.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

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  • gusturtle
    gusturtle Posts: 443
    xSmackSoundx wrote:
    Wouldn't Sigur Ros be 50 times better if they sang in English?

    no.
  • anotherclone
    anotherclone Posts: 1,688
    I tend to think about the words/singing in their songs almost as if it were an additional instrument instead of vocals. If that makes sense.

    I don't need to know what he's saying, only that I like how it sounds.

    If I knew what he say saying, that would only complicate the listening experience.

    I kind of think that Sigur Ros is kind of like Radiohead only without those pesky lyrics. :)

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