Who's Best the American or British Rock Bands?

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  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    MattCameronKicksButt wrote:
    I would like to point out however, that for such a small country, we have had as many good bands as the United States. I think it's impressive. :)

    Very good point. I think it's ridiculous to get into the whole "who's the best" business here because there are just way too many great bands from either side "of the pond". I couldn't begin to form a definitive answer to this question.
  • MattCameronKicksButt
    MattCameronKicksButt Posts: 4,317
    gabers wrote:
    Very good point. I think it's ridiculous to get into the whole "who's the best" business here because there are just way too many great bands from either side "of the pond". I couldn't begin to form a definitive answer to this question.

    :o
  • Oh, Jimmy
    Oh, Jimmy Posts: 957
    England has alot of the "Greatest of all time" bands, But America has more bands just below that teir of supremacy.
  • Oh, Jimmy
    Oh, Jimmy Posts: 957
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    The Jimi Hendrix Experience was a British band, formed in October 1966 by Chas Chandler. Of course, Jimi was from Seattle, but he had to come to England to make it. Noel and Mitch were English, as was Chas's co-manager, Michael Jeffery. Jimi's first record label was Track, here in the UK. There's no getting around this.

    So does that mean since Clapton, Page, Beck etc.etc.etc. are in American bands, since they chose to play music inspired by Americans. Not to say that the lot of them were endlessly original, but everything any of those guys ever did was just a step or two from somethin American

    I kinda see your point but that is pretty illogical. If he wouldnt have backed up all those AMERICAN r&b cats he would have become nothin.
  • kdpjam
    kdpjam Posts: 2,303
    i like both american and british bands. there are just too many bands out there, whether "popular" or not, for me to pick which origin is better!!
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    MattCameronKicksButt wrote:
    The Brits would have won hands down in the past but now I'm not so sure. All of the more recent bands I like are American.

    I would like to point out however, that for such a small country, we have had as many good bands as the United States. I think it's impressive. :)

    That more than anything else was my point, for such a small country compared to the US they've done very well for themselves. This also seems to drift back and forth as to whom's the best over the decades. I love em both but I'm a bit old school with the classic stuff.

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  • Kann
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    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    So does that mean since Clapton, Page, Beck etc.etc.etc. are in American bands, since they chose to play music inspired by Americans. Not to say that the lot of them were endlessly original, but everything any of those guys ever did was just a step or two from somethin American

    I kinda see your point but that is pretty illogical. If he wouldnt have backed up all those AMERICAN r&b cats he would have become nothin.

    That doesn't stand. The jimi hendrix experience has 2/3 of british members (one being one of the most kickass drummers of that style), recorded in england, had their first hit in england, lived in england. etc.
    If clapton, page and beck had american bands, recorded in the states and lived there, you would have a point.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    The Brits have The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Queen, David Bowie, The Kinks, The Clash and Radiohead.
    They win.
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  • eclectic
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    Cosmo wrote:
    The Brits have The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Queen, David Bowie, The Kinks, The Clash and Radiohead.
    They win.

    I concur but could I add The Cure and The Smiths to that list please.
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  • Oh, Jimmy
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    Kann wrote:
    That doesn't stand. The jimi hendrix experience has 2/3 of british members (one being one of the most kickass drummers of that style), recorded in england, had their first hit in england, lived in england. etc.
    If clapton, page and beck had american bands, recorded in the states and lived there, you would have a point.

    He is from America and was discovered in America, and was taken to England, and let's face it Hendrix is essentially a solo act. Not to take away from his bandmates, but that's the truth.


    With your logic America and Britain would share alotta bands. Zeppelin recorded here, had more early, and longstanding success over here, and once they got big they lived in America as much as possible.


    In this argument, I don't think, you can make the criteria that wide. I mean would you go as far to say that Brit gets the Beatles, America gets their solo output.



    America has G'n'R & the Black Crowes & The Mars Volta.
  • lars
    lars Posts: 524
    when it comes to being innovative the american bands win slightly...maybe because of the diverse demographics that determine USA...more influential possibilities to create new music
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  • Oh, Jimmy
    Oh, Jimmy Posts: 957
    lars wrote:
    when it comes to being innovative the american bands win slightly...maybe because of the diverse demographics that determine USA...more influential possibilities to create new music


    Thats true. If you list the cream of the crop of both places, America covers a broader spectrum, but when you break it down band by band, the Brits take it. You cant put Zeppelin or the Beatles in one category, but you could take a Van Halen or Black Crowes, both great bands, and categorize most of their material, aside from the oddball stuff.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    pearl jam is by far the best american band considering all that they do for their fan base and everything else that they are involved in nationally ......and at the moment i can't name a better american band that is still active ei touring/recording.......
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  • Oh, Jimmy
    Oh, Jimmy Posts: 957
    josevolution wrote:
    pearl jam is by far the best american band considering all that they do for their fan base and everything else that they are involved in nationally ......and at the moment i can't name a better american band that is still active ei touring/recording.......

    The Black Crowes parted ways with Marc Ford once again and I have yet to see or hear the new guy, until I do the Black Crowes have been the best American band since they reformed. They have been on a live mission. Maybe they haven't put out an album since, but their playin has been white hot. They could be matched, but I dunno about exceeded.
  • Ricsard
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    I do miss The Cure, Depeche Mode, The Verve, Oasis, Blur, Stereophonics, Suede etc from the original list!!!

    And by the way where the fuck are all the bands that are by far better than RHCP??? (To name a few) >> Smashing Pumpkins, Rage Against The Machine, Screaming Trees, Faith No More, Nine Inch Nails, Stone Temple Pilots, System Of A Down, Deftones, Garbage etc????


    It has no sense to compare UK and US bands, there are zillion great acts on both sides of the Atlantic!!! :D Period!
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  • josevolution
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    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    The Black Crowes parted ways with Marc Ford once again and I have yet to see or hear the new guy, until I do the Black Crowes have been the best American band since they reformed. They have been on a live mission. Maybe they haven't put out an album since, but their playin has been white hot. They could be matched, but I dunno about exceeded.

    just my opinion but no i don't agree to me PJ is by far the best AMERICAN BAND at the moment .......
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  • Oh, Jimmy
    Oh, Jimmy Posts: 957
    I just realized their new guitarist is British so they may not be classified as an American band.
  • kdpjam
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    Cosmo wrote:
    The Brits have The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Queen, David Bowie, The Kinks, The Clash and Radiohead.
    They win.

    true true!!!!!!!!!
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    He is from America and was discovered in America,

    By a Brit, Chas Chandler, via another Brit, Linda Keith. Americans weren't interested.
    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    and was taken to England, and let's face it Hendrix is essentially a solo act.

    Mitch provided the springboard from which Jimi could create his intricate orchestrations of rhythm and lead. And Noel's "She's So Fine" features on Axis: Bold as Love; "Little Miss Strange" features on Electric Ladyland.



    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    With your logic America and Britain would share alotta bands. Zeppelin recorded here, had more early, and longstanding success over here, and once they got big they lived in America as much as possible.

    The Yardbirds, which mutated into the New Yardbirds and then Led Zep, were considered the premier blues band on the London scene from 1964 onwards. They were as British as it gets. One should remember the original October 1966 idea for a supergroup, perhaps at Keith Moon's suggestion called Led Zeppelin, featuring London's finest.






    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    America has G'n'R & the Black Crowes & The Mars Volta.

    Fucking hell, that seals the deal then. G'n'R are for Beavises and Buttheads, the Black Crowes are a retro ripoff of Jimmy Miller-era Stones and The Mars Volta steal most of their ideas from Hawkwind and early Floyd.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    So does that mean since Clapton, Page, Beck etc.etc.etc. are in American bands, since they chose to play music inspired by Americans. Not to say that the lot of them were endlessly original, but everything any of those guys ever did was just a step or two from somethin American

    I kinda see your point but that is pretty illogical. If he wouldnt have backed up all those AMERICAN r&b cats he would have become nothin.

    It's not illogical. Hendrix was completely unknown in America. You obviously don't know anything about him. In the summer of 1966, he was playing to audiences of about ten or twelve people, down at the Cafe Wha?, when Linda Keith first saw him and introduced him to Chas Chandler. Within days of arriving in London, Jimi's London-orchestrated prefab unit, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, were playing their first European tour, supporting Johnny Halliday. Jimi had been completely obscure, in the States. Practically destitute. A nobody. Chas took him to England, and made him a superstar. Jimi Hendrix was made in England.

    As for those people you mention, if you think all they did was copy American blues, you need to open your ears. They were clearly established in Britain on a major level before going to the States. That is, they were considered the elite musicians in the country; they weren't playing to tiny audiences either. They had record deals and were doing national tours. They were also made in England.

    Clapton, with Cream, explored the sonic terrain of British psychedelia and put music to the poetry of the English poet Peter Brown. Page plays more than just blues: his acoustic playing is heavily derivative of British folk pioneers such as Davey Graham whose style reflects his colonial British roots. As for Beck, he was as influenced by Bach as by Chuck Berry.

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