an interesting Where Are They Now: the baby on Nirvana's Nevermind album cover

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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    The Long Road wrote:
    Spare me the snobby English attitude. My American dictionary spells it Generalization. I live in America, and this band is American so don't correct me....go correct an American on Radiohead's MB. "Music today reeks" can imply some OR all. I shouldn't have to force feed it to an English literature student, should I?
    Uh... YOU corrected me, I have no problem with your spellings, just don't get all arsey with me over it when it's an English fucking word. I'm well aware that it can be spelled with a Z. Doesn't mean my way was wrong. Ok?
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • LavaLamp_GuitarTramp
    LavaLamp_GuitarTramp Posts: 143
    Hell yeah! We gotta hella good fight goin' on here!!


    Cripple fight!!!
    "Why stand when you can sit?" - Winston Churchill
    "Why sit when you can dance?" - Me
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    LavaLamp_GuitarTramp wrote:
    Hell yeah! We gotta hella good fight goin' on here!!


    Cripple fight!!!
    Stop it. I'm not getting banned over something this stupid. I'm done. I've said my piece.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • The Long Road
    The Long Road Posts: 183
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    yeah, cause all music today has techno beats :rolleyes:

    Don't generalisations make life fun...

    I call a truce but let's not forget who started it. Love ya!
    "All the rusted signs we ignore throughout our lives"--Ed
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    fowls wrote:
    No, I said calling people sheep is a BAD thing.
    I don't see how you could've possibly construed what I said as saying I believe everyone are sheep :confused: Wasn't 3 nos enough?

    Sorry, I did misconstrue, obviously.

    You said 'I'd understand if he was..... etc. etc. etc.' To me that means that you have at least a shred of sympathy for his point of view. Obviously not.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Pauk
    Pauk Posts: 1,084
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Sorry, I did misconstrue, obviously.

    You said 'I'd understand if he was..... etc. etc. etc.' To me that means that you have at least a shred of sympathy for his point of view. Obviously not.
    I'm sympathetic in that a good proportion of teenagers (including me) go through that phase, but I don't think it's a point of view that should be celebrated.

    And by the "I'd understand if..." bit, I mean I'd understand his point of view, doesn't mean I agree with it.
    Paul
    '06 - London, Dublin, Reading
    '07 - Katowice, Wembley, Dusseldorf, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    '09 - London, Manchester, London
    '12 - Manchester, Manchester, Berlin, Stockholm, Copenhagen
  • InHiding19
    InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    Red Burrito wrote:
    He sounds like a dumb-ass.

    But one thing he can say is that he has the most famous baby picture of all-time.

    oh back off the kid is only 17.
    Out of the Blue and Into the Black................Uncle Neil Philly 08 here I come!!!!
  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    WeaponX655321 wrote:
    I've been thinking that there will be a second coming of some form of grunge soon. The current state of popular rock music mimics what was going on in the late eighties before the Northwestern Rock explosion took off. Pretty soon it will be people wearing tattered jeans (tattered from earning the tears, not cause they were bought stylistically torn) and Mr. Pib shirts found at a thrift store.

    the guy that did the Secret History of Grunge radio documentary suggests that there will never be another "revolutionary" movement in rock like there was in the early 90s. I agree with his theory that there is nothing to bond over anymore. Teenagers and people in their early 20s don't own physical copies of music and music can be obtained everywhere. 1) people don't all go for the same thing anymore and 2) it's fragmented- people don't want albums, they want singles for playlists. The author of Flowers in the Dust Bin argued that the last "global youth culture" ended in the 70s, that once you had pop, arena rock, punk, disco, etc., it fragmented youth into too many subcategories and then nothing would unify them again. I believe that in the early 90s, there were particular BANDS that were the global youth culture, but the movement in general was very close to it. I don't quite believe it could happen again, as music is even more fragmented now. It would take a truly, truly great band.

    Also, if you prescribe to the theory that good rock music is born during republican administrations- because people are frustrated and want change, we should have seen this revolution in the past 8 years. If Obama is elected, young people will take things for granted and just want to dance.
  • The Long Road
    The Long Road Posts: 183
    CityMouse wrote:
    the guy that did the Secret History of Grunge radio documentary suggests that there will never be another "revolutionary" movement in rock like there was in the early 90s. I agree with his theory that there is nothing to bond over anymore. Teenagers and people in their early 20s don't own physical copies of music and music can be obtained everywhere. 1) people don't all go for the same thing anymore and 2) it's fragmented- people don't want albums, they want singles for playlists. The author of Flowers in the Dust Bin argued that the last "global youth culture" ended in the 70s, that once you had pop, arena rock, punk, disco, etc., it fragmented youth into too many subcategories and then nothing would unify them again. I believe that in the early 90s, there were particular BANDS that were the global youth culture, but the movement in general was very close to it. I don't quite believe it could happen again, as music is even more fragmented now. It would take a truly, truly great band.

    Also, if you prescribe to the theory that good rock music is born during republican administrations- because people are frustrated and want change, we should have seen this revolution in the past 8 years. If Obama is elected, young people will take things for granted and just want to dance.


    Great post.
    "All the rusted signs we ignore throughout our lives"--Ed
  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    "These days, Elden says, his peers concentrate on "playing Rock Band on Xbox, like, that's not a real band! That's the difference between the '90s and kids nowadays; kids in the '90s would actually go out and make a [real] band!""

    I like this!
  • Pauk
    Pauk Posts: 1,084
    CityMouse wrote:
    the guy that did the Secret History of Grunge radio documentary suggests that there will never be another "revolutionary" movement in rock like there was in the early 90s. I agree with his theory that there is nothing to bond over anymore. Teenagers and people in their early 20s don't own physical copies of music and music can be obtained everywhere. 1) people don't all go for the same thing anymore and 2) it's fragmented- people don't want albums, they want singles for playlists. The author of Flowers in the Dust Bin argued that the last "global youth culture" ended in the 70s, that once you had pop, arena rock, punk, disco, etc., it fragmented youth into too many subcategories and then nothing would unify them again. I believe that in the early 90s, there were particular BANDS that were the global youth culture, but the movement in general was very close to it. I don't quite believe it could happen again, as music is even more fragmented now. It would take a truly, truly great band.

    Also, if you prescribe to the theory that good rock music is born during republican administrations- because people are frustrated and want change, we should have seen this revolution in the past 8 years. If Obama is elected, young people will take things for granted and just want to dance.
    I agree there'll probably never be another big music scene like Seattle in the 90s, but not for those reasons. The main thing is exposure. These days any band can show up on myspace and get their music out there. In the 90s there wasn't that infrastructure, so bands would pretty much stay in their local area and build up a network with other bands, thus creating the scene. These days music is so easily spread that there isn't that geographical and creative isolation needed for a scene to build. The closest thing we can see to a 'scene' these days are the record companies who only take on artists of a particular flavour (like Ed Bangers), building up an artificial scene. It's not necessarily any worse than the old fashioned scenes, just different. There's always going to be someone moaning about how rosy everything was in a bygone era, but change has to be accepted.

    As for Rock Band being the source of all evil, how ridiculous. Kids who play Rock Band but don't play an instrument were never going to form a band in the first place. That's like saying if it wasn't for Gran Turismo everyone would be racing drivers. If anything, Rock Band would probably inspire more kids to play instruments.
    Paul
    '06 - London, Dublin, Reading
    '07 - Katowice, Wembley, Dusseldorf, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    '09 - London, Manchester, London
    '12 - Manchester, Manchester, Berlin, Stockholm, Copenhagen

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