Blind Melon - New Track up on Blind Melon's Myspace!

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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    It doesn't make it right. I don't think AIC should be called AIC either & well, I never liked AC/DC so I don't give a rats ass about them.

    I thought the hardcore Melon fans woulda really been against this. I do know quite a few who are, but the amount who accept it, knowing all Shannon put into that band, amazes me. Shannon is irreplaceable, & it's an insult to him & the fans to go on pretending they're the same band. They shoulda changed their name, played their music with their wannabe 25 year old singer, went on their merry way & left the Blind Melon name alone & un-tarnished. I hate hearing people say "Blind Melon" & having to wonder of they mean the real or the fake.

    Sorry PBM, my stance will never change on this.

    There's gonna be a little extra saddness when I go out to the vigil for what woulda been Shannon's 40th bday this year...

    I understand where you are coming from, but have you never heard the term 'Life's too short'? Shannon ultimately chose his fate, sad as that may be, and essentially robbed his band of a future. I do get slightly narked by the amount of people who put these singers up there like they're some kind of saint or something. Yes Shannon, Layne etc were undeniably gifted people, and no it won't be the same without them, but if a band find someone who they think can capture the essence of what the band is about, then who are we to judge them? No matter how much you think you miss these people or respect them, the members of these bands will miss them and respect them far more than you or I ever will because it was their friends that died, not ours. And with that in mind, I think their decision to carry on should be respected.

    Would Blind Melon be fake if it had been the drummer or bass player who died instead of Shannon, and they had replaced that member? Should they still have stopped being a band? I think people need to stop idolising these singers and realise that they were just people - the same as you or I, completely falable like the rest of us.

    You say the Blind Melon name is now tarnished, and call the new singer a wannabe, but how much do you really know about him? By the sound of the new song he sounds like a very gifted singer in his own right, the lyrics seem decent enough and it still feels like a Blind Melon song - a very good Blind Melon song in fact.

    Like I said, life is way too short, considering all the people dying around the world, natural disasters etc, in the grand scheme of things a band regrouping with a decent new singer is hardly crime of the century.
  • somebodyelsessky2020
    somebodyelsessky2020 Posts: 1,178
    ac/dc was the only band i can think of at the moment where the replacement singer actually worked out. by winning over the fans and making music as good as with the previous singer. and at the time of bon scotts death ac/dc weren't actually very well known in the u.s. and the first release with brian johnson was one hell of a rocking fucking kick off to keep the ball rolling. but i think it'd be really hard to fill the shoes of layne or shannon and to show respect as plant page and jones did for bonham...let the band names rest as well.
    Oh dear dad
    Can you see me now
    I am myself
    Like you somehow
    I'll ride the wave
    Where it takes me
    I'll hold the pain
    Release me
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    somebodyelse'ssky wrote:
    but i think it'd be really hard to fill the shoes of layne or shannon and to show respect as plant page and jones did for bonham...let the band names rest as well.

    I think each situation is different though. I remember when dave Grohl came out with Foo Fighters barely a year after Kurt died, and there were a number of people who thought that was disrespectful. But people move on in different ways, perhaps the Zeppelin well was running dry by the time Bonham died anyway? The point I was making in my other post, is that the musicians left are ultimately the ones who decide, and really if they are ok with it then theoretically I don't see why anyone else should have a problem with it. If the new music isn't as good, THEN people have the choice to stop listening or caring about the music. In this instance, I find it hard to think anyone would say the new Blind Melon song is anything less than solid, and if that's an indication of what the album's going to be like, it should be great.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    I thought the hardcore Melon fans woulda really been against this. I do know quite a few who are, but the amount who accept it, knowing all Shannon put into that band, amazes me. Shannon is irreplaceable, & it's an insult to him & the fans to go on pretending they're the same band. They shoulda changed their name, played their music with their wannabe 25 year old singer, went on their merry way & left the Blind Melon name alone & un-tarnished. I hate hearing people say "Blind Melon" & having to wonder of they mean the real or the fake.

    I'll reiterate my stance. I'm a huge Blind Melon fan...ever since I got the first disc back in '93. I'm extremely excited for Rogers, Brad, Chris and Glen. They, respectfully, distanced themselves from the Blind Melon name...tried other projects (including producing...check out American Minor). But, they wanted to perform their songs again.

    Blind Melon is a brand name...they helped establish it. They are going to get more exposure by using the name. I don't think they are being disrespectful to Shannon or the name...they just want to carry on with the music and hopefully, pick up new fans in the process.

    I was sad in '95 and I'm sad today that we lost Shannon, but he made his choice. His family and friends were left to deal with all the pieces he left behind.

    If you're going to be upset at someone, be upset at Shannon for throwing away years of some potentially great music.

    mouthfulofsoup, we're not going to change each other's minds on this topic, but I hope you come around and give the band a chance. :)

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • Steve Dunne
    Steve Dunne Posts: 4,965
    I think 12 years later the remaining Melons and their fans owe it to themselves to give this new singer a shot...especially under the name Blind Melon. 12 years is long enough. No they'll never replace Hoon, but let's see how far they want to take this. The remaining members have to feel blessed that they have a cult-like fan base that are willing to end the grieving process and move forward. I know I'm ready.
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  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    Am I mad at him for leaving?...of course. But anyone who has dealt with any type of addiction knows it's easier said than done to stop. He didn't choose to leave, he just lost the battle. I will never "come around" on this. The guys are like 40 now, & they get some 25 year old singer? Yes, I'm sorry that is trying to replace what they had. You can't recreate the chemistry those guys had together...& well, if this song is as great as everyone is saying , then good for them, & I mean that. They deserve to be happy & make music & have a great time...But someone else singing those songs that Shannon poured his heart & soul into? I don't agree with that at all. "Blind Melon" is more than just a "brand name", it's everything that band was.

    & I know that they were personal friends with Shannon & I'm not comparing my loss to theirs by any means...I just hope when this doesn't work out & they see an album in stores down the road titled "Blind Melon" without Shannon they can look at themselves in the mirror.
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    But anyone who has dealt with any type of addiction knows it's easier said than done to stop. He didn't choose to leave, he just lost the battle.

    When you have a daughter at home and a successful career, you can take measures to beat your addiction...find the priorities in your life. It's not easy to end an addiction, but it's selfish to continue and ultimately destroys/damages more than just one life.

    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    But someone else singing those songs that Shannon poured his heart & soul into? I don't agree with that at all. "Blind Melon" is more than just a "brand name", it's everything that band was.

    Again, the rest of the band had their careers stopped short because of Shannon. If "Blind Melon" or the songs he poured his soul were that important to him, he would be here today...on stage...singing them.

    You like to give Shannon a free pass on this issue and I strongly disagree with you on this.

    *again mouthfulofsoup, this is a debate we share and there is no ill feelings geared towards you*

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    The guys are like 40 now, & they get some 25 year old singer? Yes, I'm sorry that is trying to replace what they had. You can't recreate the chemistry those guys had together...& well, if this song is as great as everyone is saying , then good for them, & I mean that. They deserve to be happy & make music & have a great time...But someone else singing those songs that Shannon poured his heart & soul into? I don't agree with that at all.

    Dude are you not familiar with the word 'empathy'? Some singers are incredibly gifted in that they can totally take on the emotion of another person's words. A prime example would be Jeff Buckley covering Hallelujah, or pretty much anything Eva Cassidy played. What about bands like the Manic Street Preachers, whose singer never wrote the lyrics?

    You keep coming back to this new guy's age, but I think most 25 year olds have a reasonable amount of life experience - hell Eddie Vedder was about that age when Ten came out, and his writing even back then was very deep and meaningful. At the end of the day I'm sure they were just looking for the best fit - which by the sounds of it, they found.

    You implied in your post that you haven't even heard the new song? Perhaps I'm wrong, but you should at least give it a listen before forming such a strong opinion.
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    Look

    for all the people anti new aic, new blind melon... whatever.. if you dont agree dont go see them.

    I think its a great idea for them to reform becuase i can finally see the bands who i love and i never thought i would ever see them due to the death of a band member.

    These guys just want to rock out again..and celebrate the music that they once made with the person who died.... also remember these people make money through playing music so dont blame them for wanting to make more music.
  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    facepollution wrote:
    Dude are you not familiar with the word 'empathy'? Some singers are incredibly gifted in that they can totally take on the emotion of another person's words. A prime example would be Jeff Buckley covering Hallelujah, or pretty much anything Eva Cassidy played. What about bands like the Manic Street Preachers, whose singer never wrote the lyrics?

    You keep coming back to this new guy's age, but I think most 25 year olds have a reasonable amount of life experience - hell Eddie Vedder was about that age when Ten came out, and his writing even back then was very deep and meaningful. At the end of the day I'm sure they were just looking for the best fit - which by the sounds of it, they found.

    You implied in your post that you haven't even heard the new song? Perhaps I'm wrong, but you should at least give it a listen before forming such a strong opinion.

    I'm not saying a 25 year old isn't deep...Hell, Shannon had just turned 28 when he died. My point was that they are older now, & obviously trying to recreate what they had with a younger singer.

    I haven't heard the new song, I'm deciding whether I can stomach it...I just about puked when I decided to watch the "Harmful Belly" video & heard that singer singing "laughing from the inside out" as he left the room.

    & PBM, it's cool...I know we always agree to disagree. ;)
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    Okay, I just listened...I want to punch him in the face when he's laughing at the end. See, I gave it a chance. :D
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    My point was that they are older now, & obviously trying to recreate what they had with a younger singer..

    That is not 'obvious' - it's just the way you are chosing to interpret it, which says quite a lot about your respect for the rest of the band members and their decision making......
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    I haven't heard the new song, I'm deciding whether I can stomach it...I just about puked when I decided to watch the "Harmful Belly" video & heard that singer singing "laughing from the inside out" as he left the room.

    Would you listen to yourself?! It's music, as much importance as we all put on it, it's still at the end of the day, just music. Listen to the song, it's good, in fact it's great, nothing to not like. It sounds like your whole aversion to the new Blind Melon is solely based on emotion and not logic. I can totally understand an emotional tie to a particular singer or artist, but if the band themselves can get over it, does that not tell you that maybe you need to be a little less sensitive?
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    I'm not saying a 25 year old isn't deep...Hell, Shannon had just turned 28 when he died. My point was that they are older now, & obviously trying to recreate what they had with a younger singer.


    yes its so obvious..............

    they just want to play together.. maybe an old guy with a voice cant sing that high or even just the fact that its a coinsedence that the guy is 25
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    Okay, I just listened...I want to punch him in the face when he's laughing at the end. See, I gave it a chance. :D

    How do you even know it's him laughing? Could be any band member.
  • bobasfeet
    bobasfeet Posts: 1,197
    Hey while we argue about it, does anyone know how to rip streaming music off myspace and get the new track?? Someone did it when they posted the 2 other tracks.That would be awesome. I need to give it the driving test.
  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    facepollution wrote:
    That is not 'obvious' - it's just the way you are chosing to interpret it, which says quite a lot about your respect for the rest of the band members and their decision making......



    Would you listen to yourself?! It's music, as much importance as we all put on it, it's still at the end of the day, just music. Listen to the song, it's good, in fact it's great, nothing to not like. It sounds like your whole aversion to the new Blind Melon is solely based on emotion and not logic. I can totally understand an emotional tie to a particular singer or artist, but if the band themselves can get over it, does that not tell you that maybe you need to be a little less sensitive?

    First off, I didn't say the song itself was bad. It's alright, far from "great", but a decent rock song for nowadays anyway. Him trying to sound like Shannon is what's annoying about it. A far cry from the originality that stemmed from songs like "Soup," "Sleepyhouse", "Toes Across the Floor..." well, you get the point. They just lack that creativeness that BLIND MELON had, & gee, I Wonder why?

    & I will not "get over it" I don't care if the band members or whoever else thinks enough time has passed & they wanna "move on." I'm sorry they're choosing this route, but regardless, I will continue to be forever grateful to Shannon, Glen, Rogers, Chris & Brad for the amazing, timeless music I was left with...that is who & what BLIND MELON will always be to me. :)
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    Him trying to sound like Shannon is what's annoying about it.

    Check out his old band, he sounded exactly the same in that band - that is how he sings. There are a lot of singers with that higher kind of voice, Perry Farrell, Jeremy Enigk (Sunny Day Real Estate), the singer from Elliott - my point being that they most likely chose someone whose voice would be familiar and fitted the earlier stuff - it would hardly sound like Blind Melon if they had an Eddie Vedder type vocalist.
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    & I will not "get over it" I don't care if the band members or whoever else thinks enough time has passed & they wanna "move on." I'm sorry they're choosing this route, but regardless, I will continue to be forever grateful to Shannon, Glen, Rogers, Chris & Brad for the amazing, timeless music I was left with...that is who & what BLIND MELON will always be to me. :)

    You just sound like a martyr to the cause, like Shannon would be proud of you for standing up for him or something.......you wouldn't like the new stuff regardless, even if they had an even better singer/songwriter than Shannon. Sad.
  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    facepollution wrote:
    You just sound like a martyr to the cause, like Shannon would be proud of you for standing up for him or something.......you wouldn't like the new stuff regardless, even if they had an even better singer/songwriter than Shannon. Sad.

    You are a quick one. No, I wouldn't like the new stuff regardless...cuz it's NOT fucking Blind Melon & never will be. & They couldn't have a better singer song writer than Shannon, cuz he was the best there will ever be. :D As far as "standing up for Shannon", any of us who can truly appreciate what he gave as a musician know you just can't replace that. It's not "sticking up for him"...It's a fact.
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    You are a quick one. No, I wouldn't like the new stuff regardless...cuz it's NOT fucking Blind Melon & never will be. & They couldn't have a better singer song writer than Shannon, cuz he was the best there will ever be. :D As far as "standing up for Shannon", any of us who can truly appreciate what he gave as a musician know you just can't replace that. It's not "sticking up for him"...It's a fact.

    martyr. I like the way you conveniently miss out a load of the points I made. I don't know why you even refer to it as Blind Melon, cause clearly you saw it as the Shannon Hoon band, obviously the other guys weren't as important in your view. Oh well, your loss.
  • somebodyelsessky2020
    somebodyelsessky2020 Posts: 1,178
    sorry it's simply impossible to replace someone so special. sadly i think they will never make it because they chose to use the old name. but it will be better that way. i don't agree with any band losing as important a member as the lead singer to death, carrying on and using the same name. it's just not right and doesn't show much respect for hoon. bottom line is the name means instant recognition for instant dollar making. what are the remaining members afraid of? good music will be good no matter what the band is called...show some fucking respect and let the blind melon name rest with shannon and use a new name...pearl jam did it and look at them now.
    Oh dear dad
    Can you see me now
    I am myself
    Like you somehow
    I'll ride the wave
    Where it takes me
    I'll hold the pain
    Release me

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