I don't like Pretty Hate Machine...

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  • darthvedder88
    darthvedder88 Posts: 1,023
    I absolutely love this record!!! I think that now this is my fav. NIN album with With Teeth close behind. Damn, PHM was so fresh, I mean Reznor had probably the worst technology you could imagine and very limited supplies but he worked his ass off and created something mindblowing!!!
    "Darth Vader would say 'Impressive'."

    -Eddie Vedder

    6/24/06 Cincinatti, Ohio
    6/14/08 Manchester, Tennessee
  • boroff89
    boroff89 Posts: 786
    ScotInAmsterdam wrote:
    I think anyone who doesn't like with teeth either doesn't like music or is more deeply into Nine Inch Nails than me and finds something missing. All the love in the world is one of the best songs I have ever heard period... I inlcude Pearl jam in that. The hand that feels is an amzing song - try using it in the gym!!!!... Beside you in time - wow.... I could go on... There's something for everyone - it's so diverse - maybe thats the problem. Or maybe the Emo kids can't relate to someone with biceps bigger than their waists....

    I don't like With Teeth. And I find your "either doesn't like music" comment completely and utterly bizarre. Music is in many ways my greatest passion. With Teeth has a few songs on it I like, but all in all, it is decidely mediocre. It lacks the edge of his earlier work. It lacks the originality and importance. And I certainly would not call it diverse. That's what I hear. Again, music is wonderful in that different people connect with different things. Just as a tip, it works better to leave out attacks (doesn't like music, Emo kids. . .) and instead simply state your case in an intelligent and mature fashion.
    It makes much more sense to live in the present tense.
  • ScotInAmsterdam
    ScotInAmsterdam Posts: 1,004
    boroff89 wrote:
    I don't like With Teeth. And I find your "either doesn't like music" comment completely and utterly bizarre. Music is in many ways my greatest passion. With Teeth has a few songs on it I like, but all in all, it is decidely mediocre. It lacks the edge of his earlier work. It lacks the originality and importance. And I certainly would not call it diverse. That's what I hear. Again, music is wonderful in that different people connect with different things. Just as a tip, it works better to leave out attacks (doesn't like music, Emo kids. . .) and instead simply state your case in an intelligent and mature fashion.

    Sorry to ruffle your feathers, none of it was meant as a personal attack, thats why I added in "more deeply into Nine Inch Nails than me and finds something missing", it is entirely possible(and welcomed) that people have different opinions about music than I do, but you chose to connect with the former statement of "doesn't like music" and defend your knowledge. Everything I said was meant as light. I hadn't realised anyone actually proudly identified themselves as an "emo kid", or I wouldn't have made the joke. Sorry to offend.
  • Arctangent
    Arctangent Posts: 614
    i loved with teeth. but then i also love the fragile and most people seemed to hate that too.

    beside you i time/right where it belongs/home are the best 3 closing songs on any nin album imo
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    Arctangent wrote:
    i loved with teeth. but then i also love the fragile and most people seemed to hate that too.

    beside you i time/right where it belongs/home are the best 3 closing songs on any nin album imo

    How can anyone hate The Fragile!?

    It's mindblowing!
    ~AKA Dave-of-the-dead~

    I don't wanna think, I wanna feel

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  • BrinkofForever
    BrinkofForever Posts: 373
    PHM was one of the best debuts I've ever heard, especially coming from a guy working part-time in a Cleveland recording studio, using fairly crappy 80's FM technology and equipment. This album is solely responsible for getting me into writing/producing electronic music.
    The first time I heard "Kinda I Want To" on my friend's very loud stereo..I was simply blown away by the production of it... the way the sounds, effects and samples bounced around...under a net of angry lyrics.
    Clearly Trent's gotten better with age, but still..that album is as classic as you can get. Maybe it's a little DX-7 heavy, but it still kicks ass.
    Make your life a mission - not an intermission. - Arnold Gasglow
  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    blasphemy!

    j/k...

    that and the broken ep was the best imo.
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    libragirl wrote:
    blasphemy!

    j/k...

    that and the broken ep was the best imo.
    Seriously? Broken?

    To each their own I guess. :)
    ~AKA Dave-of-the-dead~

    I don't wanna think, I wanna feel

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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    I like some of pretty hate machine but a few of the tracks dont really interest me that much. I love the general sound of it though. I much prefer The Fragile and With Teeth. I know that a lot of people were disappointed with With Teeth but it has Right where it belongs, probably my favourite NIN song.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    audiodave wrote:
    Seriously? Broken?

    To each their own I guess. :)

    yeah i know it's weird..but i liked it.
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    libragirl wrote:
    yeah i know it's weird..but i liked it.
    Don't get me wrong, I love it too. I love all NIN stuff (apart from remixes), but it just seems a little one dimensional to me when compared to works such as The Fragile and The Downward Spiral.
    ~AKA Dave-of-the-dead~

    I don't wanna think, I wanna feel

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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    audiodave wrote:
    Don't get me wrong, I love it too. I love all NIN stuff (apart from remixes), but it just seems a little one dimensional to me when compared to works such as The Fragile and The Downward Spiral.


    I could see what you mean. But i think that's why i like it. It's just so aggressive and short. Although i do like The Fragile for the most part, I found parts of it tedious.
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    libragirl wrote:
    I could see what you mean. But i think that's why i like it. It's just so aggressive and short. Although i do like The Fragile for the most part, I found parts of it tedious.

    I can see what you mean aswell. But I love The Fragile, it's so beautiful and so epic. Shows Trent's true creativity and brilliance to me.
    ~AKA Dave-of-the-dead~

    I don't wanna think, I wanna feel

    Dublin 23/08/06 Lisbon I 04/09/06 Lisbon II 05/09/06 Paris 11/09/06 Verona 16/09/06

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  • mensane
    mensane Posts: 912
    i love with_teeth.....bring on the rock!
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    mensane wrote:
    i love with_teeth.....bring on the rock!

    Year Zero is very different t With_Teeth. It's still a fantastic album though.
    ~AKA Dave-of-the-dead~

    I don't wanna think, I wanna feel

    Dublin 23/08/06 Lisbon I 04/09/06 Lisbon II 05/09/06 Paris 11/09/06 Verona 16/09/06

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  • Pearljammin23
    Pearljammin23 Posts: 32
    all of their cds rock, but i recently got one of their live cds and ive been listening to that for the most part. helps me remember the concert which was sweet
  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    stateoflove79 wrote:
    as much as the rest of NIN's stuff...there, I said it...now I feel better.

    Not that it's a bad record, but I just cannot listen to it beginning to end like I can with Broken, Downward Spiral, The Fragile and With Teeth.

    Not saying it's a bad album...I just prefer their other music.

    I love pretty hate machine.. BUT i think the songs are 1000 times better live.. And all that could have been is proof of that....or just go see em live!
    09/04/05 - Calgary, AB
    08/02/07 - LOLLA!!!

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