The Original Studio of "Hard To Imagine"

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  • TheKricket
    TheKricket Chicago Posts: 115
    igotid_8 wrote:
    Same goes for Alone and Dirty Frank. They were awsome as is. But hey, what do I know?

    And my dream is to hear Hard to Imagine live someday!

    x2 on all counts - there's just something about those raw cuts - and I prefer the original lyrics far better than the new ones...
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  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,673
    I skip Footsteps on Lost Dogs cause I can't stand the harmonica..it totally ruins the intamacy of the lyrics with the acoustic from the Jeremy B-side..like a man barring his soul from a prison cell..what the fuck do we neeed a harmonica added for??
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    igotid_8 wrote:
    PS Forgot the biggest Lost Dogs makeover - Driftin'!

    It's hard to listen to the Lost Dogs version!

    Carry on...

    really?

    Thats one i don't mind getting a lift.

    I like both versions.
    Its nice to hear Eddie double his vocals and inflect the lines UP in the background.

    Nice.

    I like the 45 version as well.

    Strangest Tribe is the track that i think shines through on LD.
    Only in that i think it is the one song that sounds BETTER in digital format than it did on vinyl. It just didn't have any "oomf" on record, but on CD it sounds phenomenal.

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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    PJammer4life wrote:
    I skip Footsteps on Lost Dogs cause I can't stand the harmonica..it totally ruins the intamacy of the lyrics with the acoustic from the Jeremy B-side..like a man barring his soul from a prison cell..what the fuck do we neeed a harmonica added for??

    Are you kidding? The harmonica is an awesome touch. Also, you might be the first person on earth to think a harmonica *doesn't* evoke a man in a prison cell. It's almost like a cliche, the guy in prison, playing his harmonica.

    The harmonica is what makes that song, IMO. When they first started busting it out live, it almost made my head spin.
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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    Its much better live.

    I love the way Eddie sings certain words. He goes really high and then low. Very noticable on the 2008 boots or shows you went to.
  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,673
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Are you kidding? The harmonica is an awesome touch. Also, you might be the first person on earth to think a harmonica *doesn't* evoke a man in a prison cell. It's almost like a cliche, the guy in prison, playing his harmonica.

    The harmonica is what makes that song, IMO. When they first started busting it out live, it almost made my head spin.


    The harmonica in prison in cliche..but I have heard it so many times without it it is sacraligious to add anything to it. I like the rawness of the acoustic version..IMO
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  • RiotAct10
    RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,641
    PJammer4life wrote:
    The harmonica in prison in cliche..but I have heard it so many times without it it is sacraligious to add anything to it. I like the rawness of the acoustic version..IMO

    I don't really care for the harmonica on the LD version because it seems strange to me that they took a track they recorded around 15 years ago, and added a new instrument to it. If they wanted harmonica in it, I wish they would have rerecorded the whole song as a band, because I do love it live with the harmonica, I just thought it was odd to add it to a song that was recorded a long time ago.
    words seem so out of place.

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  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,673
    RiotAct10 wrote:
    I don't really care for the harmonica on the LD version because it seems strange to me that they took a track they recorded around 15 years ago, and added a new instrument to it. If they wanted harmonica in it, I wish they would have rerecorded the whole song as a band, because I do love it live with the harmonica, I just thought it was odd to add it to a song that was recorded a long time ago.

    My exact thoughts.. it was recorded live from Rockline and released..So why would you add studio harmonica to it..when its a live take from a radio appearance??
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    PJammer4life wrote:
    My exact thoughts.. it was recorded live from Rockline and released..So why would you add studio harmonica to it..when its a live take from a radio appearance??

    now we're questioning the bands decision making process?
    lol.

    think about it.

    its pearl jam.

    and you're questioning the thought process behind it?

    its rock n fuckin roll, man.

    groove on it

    or move a long.

    :D
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  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,693
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    I have to agree with you there, bob.

    The Lost Dogs version has been pretty seriously re-tooled from the original Vs. demo, if it is infact even the same track.

    Haven't listened to it too recently,
    but i remember getting LD, and thinking, "awe man. this isn't the HTI i used to know and love".

    Of course it's been re-tooled. That's why it's called a demo, because it sounds rough. I really don't think they rerecorded anything for this track though, they just mastered the old tape for Lost Dogs. I could be wrong, though.
  • jmcjc
    jmcjc Posts: 90
    times change. the band's changed. i guess that is why they tiltled it, "Lost DOGS", instead of 'lost PUPPIES.' they wanted the songs to grow up..... i love all these tracks. glad they were released.....

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  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    really? how do you know that? i like to think of myself as an audiophile, paying attention to sound and all that. to me the Lost Dogs one sounded like a newly recorded version or that they brought up the sound on the guitars and ed sang fresh lyrics.

    There are slight lyrical differences between the two versions (40 shades of grey for the Vitalogy session and "using only grey" for vs.) They're actually the same musical track, just with different vocal sessions.
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  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,673
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    now we're questioning the bands decision making process?
    lol.

    think about it.

    its pearl jam.

    and you're questioning the thought process behind it?

    its rock n fuckin roll, man.

    groove on it

    or move a long.

    :D


    Nah ..I'll stick to the Jeremy B-side version of Footsteps..works for me...
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    darthvedder wrote:
    Chicago Cab version = Vitalogy sessions outtake
    Lost Dogs version = Vs. sessions outtake
    I thought it was the other way around?
  • surforia
    surforia SoCal Posts: 352
    Chicago Cab version is WAAYYY better than the Lost Dogs version.

    Same with "U"... the B-side version on Wishlist is way better than the version on Lost dogs... you can tell that with HTI, U, and Alone, Eddie's voice just isn't as strong as it used to be.... it's still awesome, tho, obviously...
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  • Niko80
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    PJammer4life wrote:
    I skip Footsteps on Lost Dogs cause I can't stand the harmonica..it totally ruins the intamacy of the lyrics with the acoustic from the Jeremy B-side..like a man barring his soul from a prison cell..what the fuck do we neeed a harmonica added for??

    This is where I am too. The Lost Dogs version doesn't exist in my universe:)

    I prefer pretty much all the original recordings to the lost dogs versions.. Even 'Hold on' that resurfaced on that outtake demo!

    An exception may be 'U'.
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  • Red Burrito
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    Can anyone hook me up with an mp3 of the Chicago Cab version of Hard To Imagine? I have never heard it!

    Thanks...
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  • whichwaysign
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    HTI, Down, & In Hiding are the 3 most under-appreciated songs of this band.
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