I'm not talking to the wrong person though, why do people have to internalise this? It was a question about men in general. I answer from my personal perspective and why I feel this is the case with myself and men in general. I was never saying anything about anyone in particular here.
In case anyone hasn't noticed, the Pearl Jam fanbase isn't typical of the population at large. If it were, the world would be a much better place.
*cough*hundreds of African/Amazonian tribes*cough*
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Either way, it's obviously not about length of hair since, by your own reckoning, it's about reproduction. Boobs are about nurturing children, so are connected to reproduction. Hair length is not. It is a matter of cultural and individual taste.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Well not me personally, but I'm sure if women in the west were walking around with their goods out, a lotta men wouldn't even realise they had hair.
But I believe hair length is tied into the whole attraction aspect, it's part of the reproductive trap so to speak. It's functional in that regard. Now, if you can admit that men are attracted to breast size for an instinctual reason, well there are also plenty of men who love smaller breasts. Or don't mind what they size is. But the general perception is that men love tig ol bitties, right? It's the same thing. Just as man boobs aren't generally gonna be too helpful in pulling a woman.
Well not me personally, but I'm sure if women in the west were walking around with their goods out, a lotta men wouldn't even realise they had hair.
A comment further proving mine above....
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
I'm not talking to the wrong person though, why do people have to internalise this? It was a question about men in general. I answer from my personal perspective and why I feel this is the case with myself and men in general. I was never saying anything about anyone in particular here.
In case anyone hasn't noticed, the Pearl Jam fanbase isn't typical of the population at large. If it were, the world would be a much better place.
and what i'm trying to highlight is that you're post is also internalised and your opinion.
If it's a proven theory, please, show us! Produce some evidence to support your posts... There's enough posts in here to suggest the opposite.
You were talking about how it's 'nature' and how men should find long hair attractive as short hair makes them think of men... this has been completely disproved as Jeremy1012 has said that he likes short hair and is in no way homosexual. I have also said that I liked long hair on men and I too, am in no way homosexual.
They were examples. You don't like short hair on women, that's your opinion.
There are a lot of men who find women with short hair attractive and I don't just mean us PJ lot.
Sarah Harding from Girls Aloud is a firm favourite with 'typical' men and often appears in lads mags. To me she looks completely boyish, but that doesn't seem to put off the readers of FHM and the like...
Please, correct me if i'm wrong?
Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that short hair being viewed as masculine is a fairly modern idea and has very little to do with evolution. I mean, did cavemen have buzz cuts? I think not....
and what i'm trying to highlight is that you're post is also internalised and your opinion.
If it's a proven theory, please, show us! Produce some evidence to support your posts... There's enough posts in here to suggest the opposite.
You were talking about how it's 'nature' and how men should find long hair attractive as short hair makes them think of men... this has been completely disproved as Jeremy1012 has said that he likes short hair and is in no way homosexual. I have also said that I liked long hair on men and I too, am in no way homosexual.
They were examples. You don't like short hair on women, that's your opinion.
There are a lot of men who find women with short hair attractive and I don't just mean us PJ lot.
Sarah Harding from Girls Aloud is a firm favourite with 'typical' men and often appears in lads mags. To me she looks completely boyish, but that doesn't seem to put off the readers of FHM and the like...
Please, correct me if i'm wrong?
The OP was asking about men in general. Again, I tried to offer an explanation from my pov. Male peacocks have plumage to attract the female, despite the fact that it plays no role in reproduction otherwise. The only reason I brought up homosexuality, was to illustrate why I do not believe attraction is necessarily a matter of choice. Our biology plays a huge role in it.
The OP was asking about men in general. Again, I tried to offer an explanation from my pov. Male peacocks have plumage to attract the female, despite the fact that it plays no role in reproduction otherwise. The only reason I brought up homosexuality, was to illustrate why I do not believe attraction is necessarily a matter of choice. Our biology plays a huge role in it.
I can see what your saying but several posts disprove your theory
As it's been said, everyone is different.
Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
I can see what your saying but several posts disprove your theory
As it's been said, everyone is different.
I never said all men must be attracted to long hair or not to short hair. Of course there are always exceptions. It's the same with mens preference for breast size. Of course everyone is different. I'd never argue against that.
For people to say that they find short hair attractive is fine and dandy, but that doesn't address the question as to why most men prefer long hair. At least I tried.
I never said all men must be attracted to long hair or not to short hair. Of course there are always exceptions. It's the same with mens preference for breast size. Of course everyone is different. I'd never argue against that.
For people to say that they find short hair attractive is fine and dandy, but that doesn't address the question as to why most men prefer long hair. At least I tried.
You did... as did I. Agree to disagree?
Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
Where were you 10 minutes ago when we were still arguing?!
Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
God, this topic... see here's the thing about us guys... for the most part, we're straight. Which means were are biologically attracted to women. For me this means, beyond the other person having a vagina, femininity. I think short hair on a woman can reduce that, depending on the woman in question, greatly. Now some women can pull it off and make it look really good while retaining all their femininity. Note that, this isn't soley limited to a hair issue, I have never found Kate Moss attractive because she has the body of a young boy (well, never mind her general mingin'ness).
To me, as a man, anything leaning towards androgeny in a woman is not attractive. If they like to have short-hair, well all the power to them, but personally, I find it a turn-off. And really, I think it's just a matter of nature.
for the most part I think this post sums it up - or at least my feelings on the subject.
When I met my husband I had short hair, and he told me to never grow it out because it was so cute short.. then I did grow it out, and as of now, its extremely long. It's more then halfway down my back. And he says to never cut it.. hahaha.. I guess he likes it either way!
Ah no... I've said all I needed to say. I'm not one for repeating myself
Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
I totally get what J is saying. As a ragingly heterosexual woman, I still find it easy to appreciate beauty in other women. According to 'evolution' then I should find 'masculine' women more attractive, but the women I find most beautiful generally have long hair and exceptionally beautiful, curvy, feminine bodies.
Exactly, and don't get me wrong, I like feminine women too, I'm not exclusively all about short-haired, androgynous girls I sometimes find girls with boyish qualities attractive, not girls that look like feminine men.
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Not trying to throw fuel on the fire, but I prefer medium length hair.
Hair that is too short just doesn't look good on *most* girls (though I agree that some can wear it well).
Hair that is too long is just kind of gross to me.
But nice, straight or curly medium length hair -- up to the shoulders or thereabouts --does it for me.
I agree with you. Most men and women to me look best in medium lengths. Of course there are many exceptions, but in general I think this is true. My husband likes long hair, but mine doesn't grow long. I like long hair on men, but his goes quite berzerk when grown long. So we compromise with what looks best on us.
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So you're a 'National Geographic boobs' man?
Either way, it's obviously not about length of hair since, by your own reckoning, it's about reproduction. Boobs are about nurturing children, so are connected to reproduction. Hair length is not. It is a matter of cultural and individual taste.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Well not me personally, but I'm sure if women in the west were walking around with their goods out, a lotta men wouldn't even realise they had hair.
But I believe hair length is tied into the whole attraction aspect, it's part of the reproductive trap so to speak. It's functional in that regard. Now, if you can admit that men are attracted to breast size for an instinctual reason, well there are also plenty of men who love smaller breasts. Or don't mind what they size is. But the general perception is that men love tig ol bitties, right? It's the same thing. Just as man boobs aren't generally gonna be too helpful in pulling a woman.
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A comment further proving mine above....
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
and what i'm trying to highlight is that you're post is also internalised and your opinion.
If it's a proven theory, please, show us! Produce some evidence to support your posts... There's enough posts in here to suggest the opposite.
You were talking about how it's 'nature' and how men should find long hair attractive as short hair makes them think of men... this has been completely disproved as Jeremy1012 has said that he likes short hair and is in no way homosexual. I have also said that I liked long hair on men and I too, am in no way homosexual.
They were examples. You don't like short hair on women, that's your opinion.
There are a lot of men who find women with short hair attractive and I don't just mean us PJ lot.
Sarah Harding from Girls Aloud is a firm favourite with 'typical' men and often appears in lads mags. To me she looks completely boyish, but that doesn't seem to put off the readers of FHM and the like...
Please, correct me if i'm wrong?
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
Wow, way to take a joke way too seriously.
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The OP was asking about men in general. Again, I tried to offer an explanation from my pov. Male peacocks have plumage to attract the female, despite the fact that it plays no role in reproduction otherwise. The only reason I brought up homosexuality, was to illustrate why I do not believe attraction is necessarily a matter of choice. Our biology plays a huge role in it.
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I can see what your saying but several posts disprove your theory
As it's been said, everyone is different.
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
I never said all men must be attracted to long hair or not to short hair. Of course there are always exceptions. It's the same with mens preference for breast size. Of course everyone is different. I'd never argue against that.
For people to say that they find short hair attractive is fine and dandy, but that doesn't address the question as to why most men prefer long hair. At least I tried.
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You did... as did I. Agree to disagree?
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
Ha. Yeah, totally. The last thing I need is more grief right now. *waves white flag*
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Where were you 10 minutes ago when we were still arguing?!
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
As if you needed the help
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Hehe! agreed. *waves in response*
This shoulda been a poll though, methinks...
True... true...
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
for the most part I think this post sums it up - or at least my feelings on the subject.
Get ready to duck then...
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... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
I just try to spare others my misfortune when I can.
Life's so much easier in AMT.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Hair that is too short just doesn't look good on *most* girls (though I agree that some can wear it well).
Hair that is too long is just kind of gross to me.
But nice, straight or curly medium length hair -- up to the shoulders or thereabouts --does it for me.
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