How do they even know there's a hole in the ozone layer?

Heineken Helen

fowls wrote:

Some visitor presentation freaky weird guy with a moustache visited my high school like 7 years ago (eek 7 years since high school?! I feel old!) and he let us smell his O3 gas. I can't remember what it smelled of, but it smelled of something.

:eek: that's one of the weirdest statements I've ever read

but so what, he TOLD you it's O3 gas? It coulda been anything! Maybe he was gassing you into believing him.

so what did the ozone layer look like on newsround?

Heineken Helen

dissidentman wrote:

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The 80's hair band most popular "product"

Ah HA! Hair spray

Pauk

Heineken Helen wrote:

:eek: that's one of the weirdest statements I've ever read

but so what, he TOLD you it's O3 gas? It coulda been anything! Maybe he was gassing you into believing him.

so what did the ozone layer look like on newsround?

He said it was O3.... it was blue... I had no reason not to believe him, his moustache was very trustworthy.

Well it didn't show the Ozone on Newsround... but I did see a pack mule and alot of sweltering children than a photo of the world with a lot of red and blue scribbled over it. So it must be true!

Heineken Helen

fowls wrote:

He said it was O3.... it was blue... I had no reason not to believe him, his moustache was very trustworthy.

Well it didn't show the Ozone on Newsround... but I did see a pack mule and alot of sweltering children than a photo of the world with a lot of red and blue scribbled over it. So it must be true!

good point! I believe you!

But it's weird... these scientists, who refute God may I say cos he cannot be proved, expect us to believe in something we cannot see, touch, hear, smell or taste?

Pauk

Heineken Helen wrote:

But it's weird... these scientists, who refute God may I say cos he cannot be proved, expect us to believe in something we cannot see, touch, hear, smell or taste?

Yeah, but most science involves proof that would be boring to explain on a news show, especially since most people wouldn't understand it. I'm a microbiology student and I get REALLY pissed off (gggggrrrrrrrr) when a story about MRSA and C. difficile comes up because everyone is so fucking ignorant! And the news stories out there aren't helping.

I'm sure there's a good 10-20 years worth of journal articles about holes in the O Zone layer. Science doesn't usually pop out of thin air, there's always one thing leading onto another leading onto another.



(WAHEY! I've been serious for once!)

tachepiranha

Heineken Helen wrote:

we're shipping waste to Germany... what the fuck are THEY gonna do with it and why do they want our waste? Do they EAT waste in Germany?

HAHAHA nope, as far as i know and as long as i've been here they don't eat waste...but i wonder why döner kebab tastes weird sometimes

Heineken Helen

tachepiranha wrote:

HAHAHA nope, as far as i know and as long as i've been here they don't eat waste...but i wonder why döner kebab tastes weird sometimes

stay away from the kebabs :eek:

fowls I'm ignoring you on purpose

Pauk

Heineken Helen wrote:

fowls I'm ignoring you on purpose

My life story

tachepiranha

Heineken Helen wrote:

what? You can buy carbon credits?

yep, G8 is trying to reduce emissions of CO2 (Carbon Dioxide), but all these nations won't be able to do as established on the Kyoto Protocol in which is accepted that no matter where, emissions have to be lowered, and that's how nations can sell "CO2 Credits".

It's a new variable in world economy, quite interesting...at least i discovered all that shit studying my master right now

Heineken Helen

fowls wrote:

My life story

I didn't mean it like that... but you seem to believe that I should believe something that (in your own words) 'would be boring to explain on a news show' :eek:

Heineken Helen

oh tache, I know that nations can buy and sell carbon credits... but individuals?

Pauk

Heineken Helen wrote:

I didn't mean it like that... but you seem to believe that I should believe something that (in your own words) 'would be boring to explain on a news show' :eek:

No, I don't expect you to believe it. I just believe it myself because I can't be bothered to spend the time to do the proper scrutiny of the research. It's a well researched field and any bad research is knocked down quite fast. Comes a point where I have to trust, no one's an expert in everything.


I think buying of carbon credits for individuals is more of a ethical thing to make hippies feel better about themselves.

tachepiranha

Heineken Helen wrote:

but individuals?

why would anyone want to buy carbon?

catefrances

here's what i know.
like all things climate is cyclic.
i feel the sun hotter. is this global warming or is this a natural 'aberration'.
i do not believe mankind has been around long enough to know whether what we are experiencing is the natural run of things or something more. however...
i can not discount that man's activities do not have some sort of effect on global climate patterns. fortunately being an australian i was born with the innate ability to swim so if the sea levels rise i'll be okay.

chadwick

Heineken Helen wrote:

we're shipping waste to Germany... what the fuck are THEY gonna do with it and why do they want our waste? Do they EAT waste in Germany?

im sure they turn it into fuel

Heineken Helen

catefrances wrote:

here's what i know.
like all things climate is cyclic.
i feel the sun hotter. is this global warming or is this a natural 'abbhoration'.
i do not believe mankind has been around long enough to know whether what we are experiencing is the natural run of things or something more. however...
i can not discount that man's activities do not have some sort of effect on global climate patterns. fortunately being an australian i was born with the innate ability to swim so if the sea levels rise i'll be okay.

I agree completely. I think all this stuff scientists come up with is just a load of equations that they can prove mathematically... doesn't always mean it applies though! Sorry fowls

Heineken Helen

chadwick wrote:

im sure they turn it into fuel

Not from what I've heard I can't say much about it because it would probably be a good reason to sack me

eyedclaar

Heineken Helen wrote:

I agree completely. I think all this stuff scientists come up with is just a load of equations that they can prove mathematically... doesn't always mean it applies though! Sorry fowls

Did I just hear my Wyoming hillbilly in-laws from afar?

"Gol' dang scientists thinkin' they're so smart with all their book learnin' and such. My cousin Russel graduated the 4th grade and he ain't never heard of any this crap."

catefrances

buying and selling carbon credits is just pure bullshit.

Drew263

Heineken Helen wrote:

what? You can buy carbon credits?

Yeah! From Al Gore no less. How convenient!!!!