i guess it's safe to assume then that you two blowhards (roland and drifting) have no real answers to the real questions i asked. excellent contributions! thanks for playing.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
i guess it's safe to assume then that you two blowhards (roland and drifting) have no real answers to the real questions i asked. excellent contributions! thanks for playing.
i don't see any question, just a bunch of insults.
maybe you could quote your relevant question and repost, since it is burried somewhere in a slew of mindless garbage.
?
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
i don't see any question, just a bunch of insults.
maybe you could quote your relavent question and repost, since it is burried somewhere in a slew of mindless garbage.
?
for the benefit of the paultards, i'll repeat my question: what do you hope the result will be in voting for nader?
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
that would explain why you're here with your soup spoon.
I (and others) have already told you what time it is, and you bump this thread twice after the fact to keep fanning your own gas..
You've been educated, yet refuse to learn, or interpret reality correctly for that matter.
didn't someone already mention to get over yourself?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I've noticed that, almost without exception, every person posting flaming threads about Obama are Ron Paul's sore loser supporters. Instead of looking at the candidates and really analyzing what's best for the country (of the choices left, Obama is, btw), they'd rather tear Obama down with these Fox-worthy threads and rants.
I suggest you find a hobby as a more productive avenue for venting your pent-up energy and obvious frustration. Maybe needlepoint.
i've noticed that, almost without exception, every person posting flaming threads about Bush are John Kerry, Al Gore, and Ralph Nader loser suporters. Instead of looking at the president and analyzing the good he has done, everyone would rather tear down Bush with these Air-America worthy threads and rants
make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
for the benefit of the paultards, i'll repeat my question: what do you hope the result will be in voting for nader?
If Ron Paul isn't on the ballot, I will probably write him in. What do i hope the result will be? I have stood firm on my conviction. If more people did this, instead of coping out for the "electable" choice, the issue of "electability" would cease to exist.
I don't see any difference between McCain, Hillary, and Obama in the long run. In fact, if McCain PREVENTS socialized medicine, i would actualy PREFER him. As far as the issue of war goes, if that is your rationale, i believe Obama is either full of it and lying, or completely ignornant of how the US is REALLY run, and will be either overuled by the powers behind the throne, or NOT allowed to ever gain the presidency. In other words, if he is not part of the plan, he won't be getting the job anyhow. So if he ends up taking the VP slot, or ends up giving Hillary the VP shot then mysteriously getting assassinated by some "racist kook", don't expect me to act suprised. That is, IF he really is all the things you think he is. Though the whole bit about his NAFTA "posturing" and all his contributions from the banks that own the Federal Reserve themselves makes me pretty damn suspicious. That and he has old Z. Brizinsky as an advisor.
On the other hand, Ron Paul was\is CLEARLY NOT on the take. You don't talk about getting rid of the IRS, CIA, and Federal Reserve if you are part of the globalist agenda. Infact those are things you do if you want to end up shot like Kennedy, who also spoke out against the CIA, and tried to make silver notes again.
As far as Nader's stock portfolio,
like i said, he's not my boy, and i will not vouch for him.
:cool:
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
If Ron Paul isn't on the ballot, I will probably write him in. What do i hope the result will be? I have stood firm on my conviction. If more people did this, instead of coping out for the "electable" choice, the issue of "electability" would cease to exist.
What I see is that people think the end justifies the means. And what they don't realize is that as they continually detach from themselves, their vision, their dreams and ideals, we end up living in a world where people are detached from who they are and unhinged to a widespread degree. The fact of the matter is there is no salvation down the road. There is no "end" that is worth detaching from who we are in each moment of each day. And when we abide by the illusion that there is, we continue to choose to undermine our own selves in each day.
People have no idea of their own power that they ignore/minimize and deny in each day. Or of the consequences of doing so.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
If Ron Paul isn't on the ballot, I will probably write him in.
*SORE LOSER!*
hahahahaa
People who supported Ron Paul are all evil....
ahhh...good fart...
hehe
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Also, since you (SweetP) seem to want to ask questions about the finances of candidates, let me ask you a question.
Don't you find it at all concerning that the man you intend to vote for, Mr. Barack Obama, who claims he is so tough on Wall St, and claims to have all this tough new regulation planned for financial institutions, creditors, lenders, etc ... don't you find it at all concerning that he has accepted thousands of dollars in fundraising from members of some of the largest firms on Wall Street? Including JP Morgan Chase and Citibank themselves, which if you don't know, are two of the largest owners of the Federal Reserve Bank Of New York. Don't forget that over the last few decades the Fed has quickly gone from being a monitary policy institution exclusively to holding some of the greatest power of regulation over the financial markets in general, and it is currently veying for even more restrictive authority.
And these people are giving as much money as they can to Mr. Obama.
I hope you weren't one of the ones talking shit about Ron Paul for accepting a measly $500 from a "racist"!
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Instead of looking at the president and analyzing the good he has done, everyone would rather tear down Bush with these Air-America worthy threads and rants
that is the funniest fucking thing i've read here in MONTHS! BRAVO!!! i hope that smiley means that you realize how funny it is, too.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
Hi I'm Antiwar Obama. Lets give full military support to Israel to continue bulldozing homes for peace. Woohoo viva la apartheid regime.
Oops! stooopid logic alert...
I'd prefer if he just came out and said he hadn't a f-ing clue whats going on with that situation....but that's an impossibility.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Also, since you (SweetP) seem to want to ask questions about the finances of candidates, let me ask you a question.
Don't you find it at all concerning that the man you intend to vote for, Mr. Barack Obama, who claims he is so tough on Wall St, and claims to have all this tough new regulation planned for financial institutions, creditors, lenders, etc ... don't you find it at all concerning that he has accepted thousands of dollars in fundraising from members of some of the largest firms on Wall Street? Including JP Morgan Chase and Citibank themselves, which if you don't know, are two of the largest owners of the Federal Reserve Bank Of New York. Don't forget that over the last few decades the Fed has quickly gone from being a monitary policy institution exclusively to holding some of the greatest power of regulation over the financial markets in general, and it is currently veying for even more restrictive authority.
And these people are giving as much money as they can to Mr. Obama.
I hope you weren't one of the ones talking shit about Ron Paul for accepting a measly $500 from a "racist"!
they all accept $$ from people who are less than saintly. a politician is a politician, even the sainted dr. paul. what matters is their record, and whether or not they serve the people well. i truly believe that obama has a) a chance of winning and b) convictions (that i find admirable) that will guide him when he does win. when you're talking about either nader OR paul, you can't say that they have a chance of winning, SO WHAT'S THE POINT OF VOTING FOR THEM??? I mean in real, practical terms.
do me a favor, seriously. read the article i posted (Run, Ralph, Run). it says it more eloquently than i, admittedly, can say. i don't doubt that you guys, whether nader or paul supporters, have your hearts in it, but i just don't think your brains are.
sorry if you find that insulting, i truly don't mean to trample on anyone's right to vote for mickey mouse if they want to. he's just not going to become president, and so his plans for a more perfect union are just NOT going to make it to the oval office. i think there are other avenues that such people to persue that CAN make a difference. running for president just isn't one of them.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
do me a favor, seriously. read the article i posted (Run, Ralph, Run). it says it more eloquently than i, admittedly, can say.
I read your article.
I have no intentions of voting for, as the article says, "a moderate tinkerer".
Also, i abhor socialism in any form.
Socialist medicine is antithetical to my existence, and to the principles this country was founded on.
If you want to vote to give away more of your tax dollars so that the government can pretend to do good,
while lowering the standard of living of everyone, overinflating, and leaving the intended accounts empty to instead fund war,
thus eventualy bankrupting our country - go right ahead and vote Obama.
But i won't.
Sorry.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
1
If you want to vote to give away more of your tax dollars so that the government can pretend to do good,
while lowering the standard of living of everyone, overinflating, and leaving the intended accounts empty to instead fund war,
thus eventualy bankrupting our country - go right ahead and vote Obama.
But i won't.
Sorry.
Yeah but that's just stupid talk...doing all that is REALLY SMART!
I'm Barak Obama and I approve this message...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Great replies, angleica, jeffbr, chopitdown, driftin and roland....it will save me the time from having to reply to this piece of crap.
my2hands...no, they have not gotten back with me and this is the only issue that bothered me about Nader. And comparatively glancing at the mainstreamers if this is the only point of content you can find....I'm quite happy with my choice to continue supporting Nader.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Wanna hear something that might make your head explode with shock then? I regularly email Obama's campaign, as well and they never have replied...not even once.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
and you have a better grasp on the situation then Obama? perhaps you should run for senate? or at least enlighten us...
The situation is what it is, and Obama has already said what he's said regarding it There is no interpretation to be made except observation of reality. You either know what's going on there or you don't it's quite simple really. Full financial and military support to a regime that has been condemned by the world around and has been called the next apartheid. In supporting that, If that's how he thinks peace will be accomplished he's out of his mind.
The situation entirely speaks for itself.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
they all accept $$ from people who are less than saintly. a politician is a politician, even the sainted dr. paul. what matters is their record, and whether or not they serve the people well. i truly believe that obama has a) a chance of winning and b) convictions (that i find admirable) that will guide him when he does win. when you're talking about either nader OR paul, you can't say that they have a chance of winning, SO WHAT'S THE POINT OF VOTING FOR THEM??? I mean in real, practical terms.
do me a favor, seriously. read the article i posted (Run, Ralph, Run). it says it more eloquently than i, admittedly, can say. i don't doubt that you guys, whether nader or paul supporters, have your hearts in it, but i just don't think your brains are.
sorry if you find that insulting, i truly don't mean to trample on anyone's right to vote for mickey mouse if they want to. he's just not going to become president, and so his plans for a more perfect union are just NOT going to make it to the oval office. i think there are other avenues that such people to persue that CAN make a difference. running for president just isn't one of them.
you must have so much fun jumping bandwagons each election, swopping ideas and principles without any real relation to the world you think youre influencing. voting to support a candidate, whether seemingly practical or even crucial to an outcome, remains less valuable when seen in contemporary contexts as opposed to what power exists in working towards improving the true, internal quality of 'the' entire political campaign [which designates the whole process that physically and philosophically composes an election--i.e. the quality of the politics rather than the quality of the outcome,..]. this is value Ron Paul definitively contributed, and which Nader almost, could, and will contribute if "America's media" would allow him to participate equally. and ultimately this is the nature of our political world, that democracy is non-existent on a very real, pragmatic [or 'practical' as you say] level, and so any vote for any platform that does not promote large-scale reformation of the internal structure of the US government is basically cast for worsening American fascism. im sorry to say this is true, but without such an encompassing over-haul of the full gamut of her social-culture(s) and political-infrastructure(s), America is destined [doomed] for a long walk down the road of historical shame and discredit (as realistically she's already begun approaching the half-way marker). you could argue this, of course, but one glance upon today's music scene and there is no avoiding the fact that decadence is exploited and the basic fabric of society has deteriorated in accordance, and the same is true across the board in visual-arts, literature, and all the way through to commerce and small-business markets [where "opportunity" is alleged to be the great American virtue of justice and liberty]. so you can go ahead and support a democratic nominee for president, but you should probably stop running your mouth insulting other citizens [who just happen to be quite mindful citizens at that] for truly voting to fight towards change instead of simply hopping ships based on whichever puppet you think is best suited to win--youre making losers out of us all.
we don’t know just where our bones will rest,
to dust i guess,
forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..
i never said anyone was a "sheep". jeesh. i say what i mean, you really don't have to read between lines or add anything. i am referring specifically to roland and drifting, so if i irked you other two then, sorry. maybe i should have been more specific.
on the other hand, SOME nader supporters can be as kooky as paul supporters, imo. it approaches cult status. i think nader is a great guy, very smart, has a good heart and has only the best intentions. but he'll NEVER WIN, so actually supporting him in his run for president is a waste of time, imo. he'd be more effective if he chose a candidate to support and worked hard to inform him or her of the issues he himself holds dear and is obviously well versed in. but instead, his ego forces him to put his own name in the pot. he's not above self-promotion, trust me folks. anyone who's willing to run for office has a bit of politician in him, even your fearless leader, nader.
on yet another hand i think that this country NEEDS more than two political parties, and that's another thing nader and his suporters could do to actually bring about change - promote a third party and put up viable candidates, and EARLY, not so late in the game that most voters don't even take them as serious candidates, and not someone who has such a strong history of irritating people on both sides of the aisle. they'd need someone young, fresh, smart... like a nader, 40 years ago.
'I've noticed that, almost without exception, every person posting flaming threads about Obama' did sound pretty specific, but i guess it depends on how you define a 'flaming thread'
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Hi I'm Antiwar Obama. Lets give full military support to Israel to continue bulldozing homes for peace. Woohoo viva la apartheid regime.
Oops! stooopid logic alert...
I'd prefer if he just came out and said he hadn't a f-ing clue whats going on with that situation....but that's an impossibility.
didn't he recently say his foreign policy would be like that of bush I and reagan!?!?!? sooooo...obama plans on selling arms to terrorists and violating numerous laws and treaties and be involved in covert ops and secret wars and even financing the training of terrorists w/ drug money....????
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Comments
If I opened it now would you not understand?
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
i don't see any question, just a bunch of insults.
maybe you could quote your relevant question and repost, since it is burried somewhere in a slew of mindless garbage.
?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
that would explain why you're here with your soup spoon.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
for the benefit of the paultards, i'll repeat my question: what do you hope the result will be in voting for nader?
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5319403&postcount=23
and from someone else:
http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5319478&postcount=26
anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
And conversely when we are coming from an above-board place, we hook similar behaviours in others.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
:rolleyes:
thanks, dr. phil.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
I (and others) have already told you what time it is, and you bump this thread twice after the fact to keep fanning your own gas..
You've been educated, yet refuse to learn, or interpret reality correctly for that matter.
didn't someone already mention to get over yourself?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
(")_(")
i've noticed that, almost without exception, every person posting flaming threads about Bush are John Kerry, Al Gore, and Ralph Nader loser suporters. Instead of looking at the president and analyzing the good he has done, everyone would rather tear down Bush with these Air-America worthy threads and rants
I'm merely pointing out that if you want realistic answers, the degrading, baiting stance isn't seeming to be the way to go.
"you choose the behaviour and you choose the consequences"....
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
If Ron Paul isn't on the ballot, I will probably write him in. What do i hope the result will be? I have stood firm on my conviction. If more people did this, instead of coping out for the "electable" choice, the issue of "electability" would cease to exist.
I don't see any difference between McCain, Hillary, and Obama in the long run. In fact, if McCain PREVENTS socialized medicine, i would actualy PREFER him. As far as the issue of war goes, if that is your rationale, i believe Obama is either full of it and lying, or completely ignornant of how the US is REALLY run, and will be either overuled by the powers behind the throne, or NOT allowed to ever gain the presidency. In other words, if he is not part of the plan, he won't be getting the job anyhow. So if he ends up taking the VP slot, or ends up giving Hillary the VP shot then mysteriously getting assassinated by some "racist kook", don't expect me to act suprised. That is, IF he really is all the things you think he is. Though the whole bit about his NAFTA "posturing" and all his contributions from the banks that own the Federal Reserve themselves makes me pretty damn suspicious. That and he has old Z. Brizinsky as an advisor.
On the other hand, Ron Paul was\is CLEARLY NOT on the take. You don't talk about getting rid of the IRS, CIA, and Federal Reserve if you are part of the globalist agenda. Infact those are things you do if you want to end up shot like Kennedy, who also spoke out against the CIA, and tried to make silver notes again.
As far as Nader's stock portfolio,
like i said, he's not my boy, and i will not vouch for him.
:cool:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
People have no idea of their own power that they ignore/minimize and deny in each day. Or of the consequences of doing so.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
*SORE LOSER!*
hahahahaa
People who supported Ron Paul are all evil....
ahhh...good fart...
hehe
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Don't you find it at all concerning that the man you intend to vote for, Mr. Barack Obama, who claims he is so tough on Wall St, and claims to have all this tough new regulation planned for financial institutions, creditors, lenders, etc ... don't you find it at all concerning that he has accepted thousands of dollars in fundraising from members of some of the largest firms on Wall Street? Including JP Morgan Chase and Citibank themselves, which if you don't know, are two of the largest owners of the Federal Reserve Bank Of New York. Don't forget that over the last few decades the Fed has quickly gone from being a monitary policy institution exclusively to holding some of the greatest power of regulation over the financial markets in general, and it is currently veying for even more restrictive authority.
And these people are giving as much money as they can to Mr. Obama.
I hope you weren't one of the ones talking shit about Ron Paul for accepting a measly $500 from a "racist"!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
that is the funniest fucking thing i've read here in MONTHS! BRAVO!!! i hope that smiley means that you realize how funny it is, too.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
Oops! stooopid logic alert...
I'd prefer if he just came out and said he hadn't a f-ing clue whats going on with that situation....but that's an impossibility.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
there was a sense of sarcasm with my post, yes
they all accept $$ from people who are less than saintly. a politician is a politician, even the sainted dr. paul. what matters is their record, and whether or not they serve the people well. i truly believe that obama has a) a chance of winning and b) convictions (that i find admirable) that will guide him when he does win. when you're talking about either nader OR paul, you can't say that they have a chance of winning, SO WHAT'S THE POINT OF VOTING FOR THEM??? I mean in real, practical terms.
do me a favor, seriously. read the article i posted (Run, Ralph, Run). it says it more eloquently than i, admittedly, can say. i don't doubt that you guys, whether nader or paul supporters, have your hearts in it, but i just don't think your brains are.
sorry if you find that insulting, i truly don't mean to trample on anyone's right to vote for mickey mouse if they want to. he's just not going to become president, and so his plans for a more perfect union are just NOT going to make it to the oval office. i think there are other avenues that such people to persue that CAN make a difference. running for president just isn't one of them.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
I read your article.
I have no intentions of voting for, as the article says, "a moderate tinkerer".
Also, i abhor socialism in any form.
Socialist medicine is antithetical to my existence, and to the principles this country was founded on.
If you want to vote to give away more of your tax dollars so that the government can pretend to do good,
while lowering the standard of living of everyone, overinflating, and leaving the intended accounts empty to instead fund war,
thus eventualy bankrupting our country - go right ahead and vote Obama.
But i won't.
Sorry.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Yeah but that's just stupid talk...doing all that is REALLY SMART!
I'm Barak Obama and I approve this message...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
my2hands...no, they have not gotten back with me and this is the only issue that bothered me about Nader. And comparatively glancing at the mainstreamers if this is the only point of content you can find....I'm quite happy with my choice to continue supporting Nader.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
and you have a better grasp on the situation then Obama? perhaps you should run for senate? or at least enlighten us...
now thats a shocker
Wanna hear something that might make your head explode with shock then? I regularly email Obama's campaign, as well and they never have replied...not even once.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
The situation is what it is, and Obama has already said what he's said regarding it There is no interpretation to be made except observation of reality. You either know what's going on there or you don't it's quite simple really. Full financial and military support to a regime that has been condemned by the world around and has been called the next apartheid. In supporting that, If that's how he thinks peace will be accomplished he's out of his mind.
The situation entirely speaks for itself.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
you must have so much fun jumping bandwagons each election, swopping ideas and principles without any real relation to the world you think youre influencing. voting to support a candidate, whether seemingly practical or even crucial to an outcome, remains less valuable when seen in contemporary contexts as opposed to what power exists in working towards improving the true, internal quality of 'the' entire political campaign [which designates the whole process that physically and philosophically composes an election--i.e. the quality of the politics rather than the quality of the outcome,..]. this is value Ron Paul definitively contributed, and which Nader almost, could, and will contribute if "America's media" would allow him to participate equally. and ultimately this is the nature of our political world, that democracy is non-existent on a very real, pragmatic [or 'practical' as you say] level, and so any vote for any platform that does not promote large-scale reformation of the internal structure of the US government is basically cast for worsening American fascism. im sorry to say this is true, but without such an encompassing over-haul of the full gamut of her social-culture(s) and political-infrastructure(s), America is destined [doomed] for a long walk down the road of historical shame and discredit (as realistically she's already begun approaching the half-way marker). you could argue this, of course, but one glance upon today's music scene and there is no avoiding the fact that decadence is exploited and the basic fabric of society has deteriorated in accordance, and the same is true across the board in visual-arts, literature, and all the way through to commerce and small-business markets [where "opportunity" is alleged to be the great American virtue of justice and liberty]. so you can go ahead and support a democratic nominee for president, but you should probably stop running your mouth insulting other citizens [who just happen to be quite mindful citizens at that] for truly voting to fight towards change instead of simply hopping ships based on whichever puppet you think is best suited to win--youre making losers out of us all.
to dust i guess,
forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..
'I've noticed that, almost without exception, every person posting flaming threads about Obama' did sound pretty specific, but i guess it depends on how you define a 'flaming thread'
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
didn't he recently say his foreign policy would be like that of bush I and reagan!?!?!? sooooo...obama plans on selling arms to terrorists and violating numerous laws and treaties and be involved in covert ops and secret wars and even financing the training of terrorists w/ drug money....????
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way