So, why aren't the Iraqis being heard?

gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/27/iraqis-poll/

– A large majority of Iraqis–71%–say they would like the Iraqi government to ask for US-led forces to be withdrawn from Iraq within a year or less. Given four options, 37 percent take the position that they would like US-led forces withdrawn “within six months,” while another 34 percent opt for “gradually withdraw[ing] US-led forces according to a one-year timeline.”

– Support for attacks against US-led forces has increased sharply to 61 percent (27% strongly, 34% somewhat). This represents a 14-point increase from January 2006, when only 47 percent of Iraqis supported attacks.

– More broadly, 79 percent of Iraqis say that the US is having a negative influence on the situation in Iraq, with just 14 percent saying that it is having a positive influence.

– Asked “If the US made a commitment to withdraw from Iraq according to a timeline, do you think this would strengthen the Iraqi government, weaken it, or have no effect either way?” 53 percent said that it would strengthen the government, while just 24 percent said it would weaken the government.

– Asked what effect it would have “if US-led forces withdraw from Iraq in the next six months,” 58 percent overall say that violence would decrease (35% a lot, 23% a little).




"I'm not ungrateful that they took away Saddam Hussein," says Salam Ahmed, 30, a Shiite businessman. "But the job is done. Thank you very much. See you later. Bye-bye."

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  • TrauTrau Posts: 188
    I guess you don't get around much.
    In the shadow of the light from a black sun
    Frigid statue standing icy blue and numb
    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
    I'm freezing

    Are you afraid, afraid to die
    Don't be afraid, afraid to try
  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    no habla espaniol
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    I get it, i get it! Iraq is a joke.

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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    It took me many years to learn our country's history.

    So before I could learn about it, I saw it. I saw it on my mom's black and white television, when people were arrested for what my mom called "protesting", and I saw it on the streets in Tarrytown when we went shopping at the Army & Navy store, where I saw nothing but skulls on khaki green t-shirts. Comic book covers showed more skulls, skeletons running in ragged and torn uniforms, clutching rifles, with bombs exploding right behind them.

    That is what I knew of Viet Nam, back then. Anger, fear, frustration with our own government, protesting...

    When I look at what is going on now in Iraq, I see the same damn thing.

    It's time for us to start pulling out.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    The answer is simple...
    Because we are in charge of their country... not them.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Because the Iraqi's are really just tourists living in their own country?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Because the Iraqi's are really just tourists living in their own country?

    They have their own country?
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Cosmo wrote:
    The answer is simple...
    Because we are in charge of their country... not them.

    "We"? America? I don't agree.

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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I used to believe that we needed to stay there in order to keep the shit from hitting the fan... til I realized that we're already covered in shit.
    Leave now... Shi'ite kill Sunnis and vice versa...
    Leave in 2016... Shi'ite kill Sunnis and vice versa...
    Leave in 2066... Shi'ite kill Sunnis and vice versa...
    Never leave... Shi'ite kill Sunnis and vice versa...
    Our cost is 'In the meantime'. How many of our soldiers have to die before we get past the 'acceptable losses' watermark? How much in tax dollars do we shovel onto this fire until we figure, there are better thing t odo with this money?
    ...
    Me. We've past that point. Iraq is fucked up and will be fucked up. We have a choice between bad news or bad news... which one do you pick? I pick today's bad news because i don't want any more losses.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Cosmo wrote:
    I used to believe that we needed to stay there in order to keep the shit from hitting the fan... til I realized that we're already covered in shit.
    Leave now... Shi'ite kill Sunnis and vice versa...
    Leave in 2016... Shi'ite kill Sunnis and vice versa...
    Leave in 2066... Shi'ite kill Sunnis and vice versa...
    Never leave... Shi'ite kill Sunnis and vice versa...
    Our cost is 'In the meantime'. How many of our soldiers have to die before we get past the 'acceptable losses' watermark? How much in tax dollars do we shovel onto this fire until we figure, there are better thing t odo with this money?
    ...
    Me. We've past that point. Iraq is fucked up and will be fucked up. We have a choice between bad news or bad news... which one do you pick? I pick today's bad news because i don't want any more losses.

    what he said
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    what he said
    ...
    I also believe we have placed America in a position where Iran and/or Syria can come in and broker a peace between the warring sects. This would not be good for America. Imagine... Iran... Syria? Peace? But, it is a possibility, now.
    Thanx, Mr. President.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Go Jayhawks!
    Feels Good Inc.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    It doesn't matter, cause Iraq is gonna be a war zone for another decade. The republicans are going to use it to wage war with Iran, then Syria and maybe Saudi Arabia. It's all in the cards. The dems won't win in 2008, doesn't matter who you vote for.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    We blow up the world??
    Feels Good Inc.
  • Bu2 wrote:
    They have their own country?

    Hmm... It's land I guess, or it is it all just sand? Maybe sand doesn't technically qualify as soil.

    more loopholes for Bush to exploit!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Bu2 wrote:
    We blow up the world??

    Go for it, I won't miss it, neither will anyone else.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Go for it, I won't miss it, neither will anyone else.

    id'git.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • gue_barium wrote:
    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/27/iraqis-poll/

    – A large majority of Iraqis–71%–say they would like the Iraqi government to ask for US-led forces to be withdrawn from Iraq within a year or less. Given four options, 37 percent take the position that they would like US-led forces withdrawn “within six months,” while another 34 percent opt for “gradually withdraw[ing] US-led forces according to a one-year timeline.”

    – Support for attacks against US-led forces has increased sharply to 61 percent (27% strongly, 34% somewhat). This represents a 14-point increase from January 2006, when only 47 percent of Iraqis supported attacks.

    – More broadly, 79 percent of Iraqis say that the US is having a negative influence on the situation in Iraq, with just 14 percent saying that it is having a positive influence.

    – Asked “If the US made a commitment to withdraw from Iraq according to a timeline, do you think this would strengthen the Iraqi government, weaken it, or have no effect either way?” 53 percent said that it would strengthen the government, while just 24 percent said it would weaken the government.

    – Asked what effect it would have “if US-led forces withdraw from Iraq in the next six months,” 58 percent overall say that violence would decrease (35% a lot, 23% a little).

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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Ahnimus wrote:
    It doesn't matter, cause Iraq is gonna be a war zone for another decade. The republicans are going to use it to wage war with Iran, then Syria and maybe Saudi Arabia. It's all in the cards. The dems won't win in 2008, doesn't matter who you vote for.


    i could see iran and syria, but i doubt saudi arabia, certain elements in power have too strong a tie w/ the kingdom...nice deal they all got goin on...oil profits, profits from the wars from the instability they help foster, even train, arm and fund....
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
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