Any thoughts on Michelle Obama's speech?

MonsterOfTheMidway

SpreadtheJAM wrote:

Oh. I forgot you and Wayne were boyz back in the wards of NOLA. so i guess you relate to obama to. Just another brotha from the hood.

Word.

cincybearcat

Missed it...though I'm not really sure why I should care what the spouse of any candidate thinks about anything...other than it may give you a glimpse into what the candidate themselves believe in.

I also saw that Cindy McCain is going to Georgia to "Assess the civilian casulaties"....what the hell?

And before anyone starts, I'd certainly have the same opinion if the candidate was a woman and the spouse was a man.

Question...do any of you care what the spouse of the president of your company thinks about where the company is headed?

harrymanback

SpreadtheJAM wrote:

Yeah. somebody should have told that loud mouth kid of his to shutup. its the Freakin DNC and they cant get that girl to keep her mouth shut.

Can't even keep their own daughter in line how will they run the country.

i agree ... the commentators thought it was cute, but they never should have put that mic in the girls hand.

Foxwell

cincybearcat wrote:

Missed it...though I'm not really sure why I should care what the spouse of any candidate thinks about anything...other than it may give you a glimpse into what the candidate themselves believe in.

Question...do any of you care what the spouse of the president of your company thinks about where the company is headed?

I cast my vote based on the candidate, first and foremost. His or her platform, experience, past behavior, and character are paramount. But I have to say that there's credence in the old maxim that you can judge a man based on the company he keeps.

So yeah...when I met my boss' husband and found out he was a hell of a guy, it made me just that much more comfortable about the future of the school. I wouldn't have quit if he were a douche bag, but meeting him did improve my opinion of her.

I've never been one of those guys who believes that a man can completely divorce his private life from his professional life. Who he is at home, with his friends, with his children, with his wife does presage his behavior when he crosses the threshold of the office.

After all, the person you decide to spend the rest of your life with, to raise your children with, and to grow old with speaks volumes about the sort of person you are.

cincybearcat

Foxwell wrote:

I cast my vote based on the candidate, first and foremost. His or her platform, experience, past behavior, and character are paramount. But I have to say that there's also credence in the old maxim that you can judge a man based on the company he keeps.

So yeah...when I met my boss' husband and found out he was a hell of a guy, it made me just that much more comfortable about the future of the school. I wouldn't have quit if he were a douche bag, but meeting him did improve my opinion of her.

I've never been one of those guys who believes that a man can completely divorce his private life from his professional life. Who he is at home, with his friends, with his children, with his wife does presage his behavior when he crosses the threshold of the office.

After all, the person you decide to spend the rest of your life with, to raise your children with, and to grow old with speaks volumes about the sort of person you are.

Well, I appreciate your response. Though I disagree.

I have also gone and read the transcript of the speach and it is nothing but fluff...I sure hope that the spouse of a presidential candidate wouldn't get up on the stage and tell everyone about the candidate's flaws. Next, they should have Barrack's mom tell us how he was such a good little boy that has grown into a man that she can be proud of...duh.

I want less fluff and more substance.

Foxwell

cincybearcat wrote:

Well, I appreciate your response. Though I disagree.

I sure hope that the spouse of a presidential candidate wouldn't get up on the stage and tell everyone about the candidate's flaws.

I would love to hear that speech.

Twenty minutes...just a list of grievances!

"...he's a selfish lover."
"...he cheats at scrabble."
"...he TiVo's The Hills."
"...you'd think he had never heard of mouthwash."

ajedigecko

i would be more impressed if the DNC were speaking to the GOP, at their convention.....

and the same can be said for the GOP speaking at the DNC.....

both of the above situations would be interesting.

Strangest Tribe

WTF?

Some people are just going to be cynics no matter what....

It's not Michelle's job to discuss politics....at least not yet.

She's there to support her man and show their family to America so the people can better relate to them as opposed to the celebrity images we see every day.

She did her job very well. She was beautiful last night...

and I believe most of America thought so as well.

norm

Foxwell wrote:

I would love to hear that speech.

Twenty minutes...just a list of grievances!

"...he's a selfish lover."
"...he cheats at scrabble."
"...he TiVo's The Hills."
"...you'd think he had never heard of mouthwash."

now that's a speech i can get behind!

cincybearcat

Strangest Tribe wrote:

WTF?

Some people are just going to be cynics no matter what....

It's not Michelle's job to discuss politics....at least not yet.

That is my point.

cincybearcat

Strangest Tribe wrote:

She did her job very well. She was beautiful last night...

and I believe most of America thought so as well.

And that is a sad comment...

"Hey honey...go on stage and look pretty for the people"

Vince

I thought she was great! She was a 1000x's better than Nancy Pelosi. I will say that I hope they start to go on the attack or I feel they will gain no advantage from this 4 day convention.

Its Evolution Baby

harrymanback wrote:

i agree ... the commentators thought it was cute, but they never should have put that mic in the girls hand.

You have no soul.

The "I love you daddy" was brilliant. You should always put a mic in a kids hand as Americans are suckers for that kind of thing.

I should know I'm and American and thought it was very cute. I'm sure it won him a few votes in some people on the fence. Not that it should but hey some people are just suckers for kids.

Flannel Shirt

Vince wrote:

I thought she was great! She was a 1000x's better than Nancy Pelosi. I will say that I hope they start to go on the attack or I feel they will gain no advantage from this 4 day convention.

I agree completely. Fantastic speech, Democrats are feeling good, now unleash the dogs.

anotherclone

SpreadtheJAM wrote:

Yeah. somebody should have told that loud mouth kid of his to shutup. its the Freakin DNC and they cant get that girl to keep her mouth shut.

Can't even keep their own daughter in line how will they run the country.

harrymanback wrote:

i agree ... the commentators thought it was cute, but they never should have put that mic in the girls hand.

WTF? Are you two for real?

The whole point of last night was to (basically) show Obama and his family are "one of us(Americans)" because the right has done a pretty good job of portraying them as "exotic" and "different".

Michelle did a fantastic job of chipping away at the cliche', in my opinion.

Putting the kids in the picture, intentionally or not, conveys they are a family. Like everyone else in America. Which hopefully, will help cut through the bs that they are "different".

Foxwell

Strangest Tribe wrote:

She did her job very well. She was beautiful last night...

and I believe most of America thought so as well.

cincybearcat wrote:

And that is a sad comment...

"Hey honey...go on stage and look pretty for the people"

I don't know why I can't let this topic go. Even though I started the thread, I really don't care this much. In fact, I'm not even sure I'm going to vote for Obama. However, here goes...

I don't want to speak for Strangest Tribe, but I didn't interpret the word "beautiful" in his or her comment to be strictly exterior beauty as in "go and look pretty for the people." Her words and her mannerisms and her whole presentation were beautiful, not just her face/hair/dress. If I were the type to get offended easily (which I'm not), I might take offense to your assumption that she was mere eye-candy.

On a slightly different note, I can't help but wonder if your opinion of her speech might have been different if you had seen it live, as opposed to simply reading the transcript. As we all know, a speech or a song or a play is much more than just words. There's a lot more to consider: context, body language, inflection, environment, etc.

For example, if you read the lyrics to some Pearl Jam songs, you might not be that impressed. Yet, if you add the driving force of Mike, Matt, Jeff, and Stone, along with the primordial crooning of Eddie, and throw that concoction into a 5,000 seat venue; you get a positively cataclysmic event.

Of course, you can't un-ring the bell, but it would be interesting to see how the medium in which people first experience a speech affects their appreciation of it.

I'll be the first to admit that I got swept up in the fanfare. The DNC is a show, and the Democrats put on a great show last night. We had the "Holy Trinity" of Kennedys--Jack, Bobby, and Teddy-- leading into a funny and sweet introduction of Michelle by her big brother. And Mrs. Obama just took it from there. It was tough not to be carried away, and I willingly let the riptide take me.

After all, these events are about "the way things should be." When the balloons and streamers have fallen and are resting in the nearest land-fill, then we can go back to the "way things are"--and try to fix them.

cincybearcat

Foxwell wrote:

I don't know why I can't let this topic go. Even though I started the thread, I really don't care this much. In fact, I'm not even sure I'm going to vote for Obama. However, here goes...

I don't want to speak for Strangest Tribe, but I didn't interpret the word "beautiful" in his or her comment to be strictly exterior beauty as in "go and look pretty for the people." Her words and her mannerisms and her whole presentation were beautiful, not just her face/hair/dress. If I were the type to get offended easily (which I'm not), I might take offense to your assumption that she was mere eye-candy.

On a slightly different note, I can't help but wonder if your opinion of her speech might have been different if you had seen it live, as opposed to simply reading the transcript. As we all know, a speech or a song or a play is much more than just words. There's a lot more to consider: context, body language, inflection, environment, etc.

For example, if you read the lyrics to some Pearl Jam songs, you might not be that impressed. Yet, if you add the driving force of Mike, Matt, Jeff, and Stone, along with the primordial crooning of Eddie, and throw that concoction into a 5,000 seat venue; you get a positively cataclysmic event.

Of course, you can't un-ring the bell, but it would be interesting to see how the medium in which people first experience a speech affects their appreciation of it.

I'll be the first to admit that I got swept up in the fanfare. The DNC is a show, and the Democrats put on a great show last night. We had the "Holy Trinity" of Kennedys--Jack, Bobby, and Teddy-- leading into a funny and sweet introduction of Michelle by her big brother. And Mrs. Obama just took it from there. It was tough not to be carried away, and I willingly let the riptide take me.

After all, these events are about "the way things should be." When the balloons and streamers have fallen and are resting in the nearest land-fill, then we can go back to the "way things are"--and try to fix them.

#1) Even if refering to more than just her physical appearance...ie...words, etc as you said...it's still fluff. I'm sure Dennis Kucinich supporters woudl agree as he looks like a troll, but they think he can run the country...his wife on the other hand...I'm getting of topic.

#2) I might have a slightly different opinion had I seen the speech and got carried away by the fluff...that's the purpose after all...but I still really don't care about any of the topics that was discussed. And I'm still not sure why I would want to hear what a spouse (regardless of sex) of a candidate thinks of his/her spouse.

By the way, this is coming from a conservative. I did, however, caucus in Iowa for Obama and I'm still undecided as to who to vote for in this election...so I'm not just trying to be harsh.

MattyJoe

Just another continuation of the painstaking measures the Obamas and their supporters have taken to avoid the real issues.

Foxwell

cincybearcat wrote:

#1) Even if refering to more than just her physical appearance...ie...words, etc as you said...it's still fluff. I'm sure Dennis Kucinich supporters woudl agree as he looks like a troll, but they think he can run the country...his wife on the other hand...I'm getting of topic.

#2) I might have a slightly different opinion had I seen the speech and got carried away by the fluff...that's the purpose after all...but I still really don't care about any of the topics that was discussed. And I'm still not sure why I would want to hear what a spouse (regardless of sex) of a candidate thinks of his/her spouse.

By the way, this is coming from a conservative. I did, however, caucus in Iowa for Obama and I'm still undecided as to who to vote for in this election...so I'm not just trying to be harsh.

Fair enough.

I promise I'm done this time...maybe.

anotherclone

MattyJoe wrote:

Just another continuation of the painstaking measures the Obamas and their supporters have taken to avoid the real issues.

Kind of random considering the topic has nothing to do with what you're mentioning. but what issue do you want to know about?