I've always wondered why there ar overweight homeless people

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I've always wondered why there are overweight homeless people....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4teq7aKTNJ4

harmless_little_f***

'You invited 12 people, only one came, and that was only cus you gave him a 2 dollar bus token.... a 2 dollar bus token can get him a bottle of vodka.'

It's all true. I work for a homeless charity and many of them just don't want to work. Not all, but most.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

that mountain of pizza looked good...

3inputchick

Mental illness sucks.

blackredyellow

The cheapest, most accessible foods are usually the worst ones for you.... plus all of the alcohol doesn't help.

darthvedder81

I volunteered at a Salvation Army shelter a few years back working in the "food warehouse" (a enormous room with 15 thirty-foot 4 level shelves all full to overflowing). We actually had to throw out hundreds of pounds of expired food.

Kel Varnsen

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I've always wondered why there are overweight homeless people....

It is a good question. I have always wondered why sometimes you see homeless people with keychains full of keys (like on their belt or something). If you have no home what are you locking up that you need so many keys for?

darthvedder81

blackredyellow wrote:

The cheapest, most accessible foods are usually the worst ones for you.... plus all of the alcohol doesn't help.

Not true. You can get plenty of nutrition from relatively inexpensive canned and non-perishable items. If all you do is eat 49 cent hamburgers, then yes, you'll have a problem. People are just too lazy to cook or shop around.

blackredyellow

darthvedder81 wrote:

Not true. You can get plenty of nutrition from relatively inexpensive canned and non-perishable items. If all you do is eat 49 cent hamburgers, then yes, you'll have a problem. People are just too lazy to cook or shop around.

but we are talking about homeless people. Most of them aren't very good at making the best decisions in life.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

spam is cheap.

back in my fat days my food bill was cheaper than it is now.

puremagic

It could be the amount of clothes they are wearing that makes them look fat or it could be because the body actually gains weight while going through slow starvation.

darthvedder81

puremagic wrote:

It could be the amount of clothes they are wearing that makes them look fat or it could be because the body actually gains weight while going through slow starvation.

Is this kind of like how colder temperatures can also signal "Global Warming"?

darthvedder81

blackredyellow wrote:

but we are talking about homeless people. Most of them aren't very good at making the best decisions in life.

Maybe we need a Department of Catering to prepare nourishing quick meals for everybody? We have to do something! Won't somebody think of the children!

puremagic

darthvedder81 wrote:

Is this kind of like how colder temperatures can also signal "Global Warming"?

No, it's kind of like mistaken swollen body parts for being fat. Swollen being sick and dying, fat being healthy and why don't you have a job.

brain of c

darthvedder81 wrote:

Maybe we need a Department of Catering to prepare nourishing quick meals for everybody? We have to do something! Won't somebody think of the children!

i won't say.......mmm...children.......i won't

prljmngrl

hahahaha that video is awesome! They dont WANT to work. It's really very simple. The truly "mentally ill" who end up homeless is miniscule. The majority are just lazy and refuse to "conform" to society and its rules.

angelica

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a398/illuminedelusion/part%20two/mar20-14.jpg

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

working does suck.

12345AGNST1

there are plenty of retarded people that have jobs, why the fuck dont these people?

Commy

3inputchick wrote:

Mental illness sucks.

well said, and fitting, in a homeless thread.

Commy

12345AGNST1 wrote:

there are plenty of retarded people that have jobs, why the fuck dont these people?

I would suggest you google schizophrenia.

Its fucked. These people do really well at first, at a new job. But as they take in all the information from their surroundings-as other people filter out things that are meaningless-people with schizophrenia actually focus on those things that are irrelevent. Its hard to explain, but it definitely prevents them from being succesful at any long term job. They can only last so long before the stimluli literally becomes overwhelming. Throw in the fascist boss and you're pretty much fucked.

Thecure

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

'You invited 12 people, only one came, and that was only cus you gave him a 2 dollar bus token.... a 2 dollar bus token can get him a bottle of vodka.'

It's all true. I work for a homeless charity and many of them just don't want to work. Not all, but most.

first off, where do you get vodka for $2. so you believe that peopel will rather live on teh street and not get a job or do you believe that many peopel can't get jobs because they have no address or have mental health issues. what do you do 4 the homeless charity because i hope you don't work front line.

harmless_little_f***

Thecure wrote:

first off, where do you get vodka for $2. so you believe that peopel will rather live on teh street and not get a job or do you believe that many peopel can't get jobs because they have no address or have mental health issues. what do you do 4 the homeless charity because i hope you don't work front line.

Read my fucking post again. I said 'Most, not all.'

I know about mental health. I am depressed at the moment myself. There are some unfortunate human beings who are homeless and jobless through no fault of their own.

However, the people I have worked with had an address due to the fact that they are all living quite safely and securely in the small, comfy hostels we provide... glorified family houses. But many of them refuse to get out of bed. We provide training and they frequently can't be bothered to turn up.

Don't patronise me. And don't patronise homeless people. They are not charity cases.

angelica

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

And don't patronise homeless people. They are not charity cases.

I completely agree with you. Any approach that patronizes or puts a homeless person in a victim-stance is an imbalanced approach that overlooks their humanity and dignity. And such a stance perpetuates the flawed cycles.

Thecure

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

Read my fucking post again. I said 'Most, not all.'

I know about mental health. I am depressed at the moment myself. There are some unfortunate human beings who are homeless and jobless through no fault of their own.

However, the people I have worked with had an address due to the fact that they are all living quite safely and securely in the small, comfy hostels we provide... glorified family houses. But many of them refuse to get out of bed. We provide training and they frequently can't be bothered to turn up.

Don't patronise me. And don't patronise homeless people. They are not charity cases.

i am sorry, i also work with homeless people who are living with HIV/AIDS in Toronto. i was having a bad day and as you know, sometimes when something comes up that you heard so often you snap.

i don't believe that homeless people are charity cases. however i do believe that this idea that is so wide spread is not a really indictaion of what is teh case but more about what some people percieve. i talk with lot of people and i always ask them when i do my intake. what has prevented you from maintaining yoru housing and most say that it is because they don't know how to take care of themselfs. this leads to a sense that there is no point to learn anything as they will fail. the people who are the most hardcore homeless have a harder time.

sweetpotato

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I've always wondered why there are overweight homeless people...

i didn't watch the video, but just the title of this thread is irking. don't you think it's a bit elitist- not to mention ignorant of the facts of the diet and nutrition of the poor- to say such a thing?

why not extend this to say, "why are so many poor people fat?" um, well, that's because the food that's affordable for low income families is full of crap- fats, sugar, salt, processed flour... to eat healthy takes not only a certain level of income (ever notice that fruits & veggies cost alot more than a box of hamburger helper?) but also enough time (and awareness) to read labels, go to green markets, prepare food from scratch, etc. many working poor are juggling jobs (sometimes more than one), kids, eldercare, making the rent/mortgage, etc... on alot less money than you & me. it's not easy, or cheap.

come on, roland. educate yourself! i'm not trying to pick on you, just trying to shed some light here.

peace.

angelica

Commy wrote:

I would suggest you google schizophrenia.

Its fucked. These people do really well at first, at a new job. But as they take in all the information from their surroundings-as other people filter out things that are meaningless-people with schizophrenia actually focus on those things that are irrelevent. Its hard to explain, but it definitely prevents them from being succesful at any long term job. They can only last so long before the stimluli literally becomes overwhelming. Throw in the fascist boss and you're pretty much fucked.

Yes, mental illness can be bad. It can definitely prevent one from being successful at a job, and it unfortunately contributes to a large degree to homelessness.

At the same time, there are many with schizophrenia and other illnesses who learn ways to cope and recover and lead productive lives.

cornnifer

sweetpotato wrote:

i didn't watch the video, but just the title of this thread is irking. don't you think it's a bit elitist- not to mention ignorant of the facts of the diet and nutrition of the poor- to say such a thing?

why not extend this to say, "why are so many poor people fat?" um, well, that's because the food that's affordable for low income families is full of crap- fats, sugar, salt, processed flour... to eat healthy takes not only a certain level of income (ever notice that fruits & veggies cost alot more than a box of hamburger helper?) but also enough time (and awareness) to read labels, go to green markets, prepare food from scratch, etc. many working poor are juggling jobs (sometimes more than one), kids, eldercare, making the rent/mortgage, etc... on alot less money than you & me. it's not easy, or cheap.

come on, roland. educate yourself! i'm not trying to pick on you, just trying to shed some light here.

peace.

And all God's people said... Amen. It costs too much money and requires way to much time to maintain a healthy diet. Brilliant post here.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

sweetpotato wrote:

i didn't watch the video, but just the title of this thread is irking. don't you think it's a bit elitist- not to mention ignorant of the facts of the diet and nutrition of the poor- to say such a thing?

why not extend this to say, "why are so many poor people fat?" um, well, that's because the food that's affordable for low income families is full of crap- fats, sugar, salt, processed flour... to eat healthy takes not only a certain level of income (ever notice that fruits & veggies cost alot more than a box of hamburger helper?) but also enough time (and awareness) to read labels, go to green markets, prepare food from scratch, etc. many working poor are juggling jobs (sometimes more than one), kids, eldercare, making the rent/mortgage, etc... on alot less money than you & me. it's not easy, or cheap.

come on, roland. educate yourself! i'm not trying to pick on you, just trying to shed some light here.

peace.

Well you see if you watched the video, you wouldn' t be needing to tell me to educate myself... There is no shortage of food and homeless people can go from food line to food line stuffing their faces.

harmless_little_f***

cornnifer wrote:

And all God's people said... Amen. It costs too much money and requires way to much time to maintain a healthy diet. Brilliant post here.

No, it doesn't. At all. Sorry. You can eat very well, very cheaply, although this isn't what America would have you believe.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

No, it doesn't. At all. Sorry. You can eat very well, very cheaply, although this isn't what America would have you believe.

This is also my understanding, and I buy healthy groceries on average at least twice a week.