'The War on Terror' is a sham

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  • It's really "the war on whatever the US decides is "bad"".

    The term terror is a crock of shit used to terrorize peoples thoughts and opinions and actually inflict fear.

    Using the word terror left right and center in the media is a form of terrorism in itself.
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    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no, when Hamas is out of the picture. they are completely preventing peace. even the international recognized Palestinian authority is ready for peace.

    but please continue to move backwards by supporting your terrorist organization. you are part of the problem, not solution.

    'The International recognized Palestinian authority'? What a joke. You mean that they are recognized as legitimate by the U.S and it's poodle Britain? Sorry to burst your cosy little conservative bubble, but Britain and the U.S don't represent 'the international community'.

    Hamas is the official government as voted for in a democratic election by the people of Palestine. I suppose you believed that General Pinochet was legitimate simply because Margaret Thatcher said so?
    Oh, and I created a thread the other day re: 'Terrorism' which, as per usual, you obviously didn't bother to read. Instead you simply jumped on the back of 'Pearler' by criticising me for posting links to source material.
    If you'd actually read the article then you'd understand when I say that your use of the word 'terrorist' in the above post is completely redundant.
  • Yep. As long as we install "allies" in countries, who cares if they execute their own people for converting from Islam?

    What Bush and co fail to realise is, if you bring someone up to believe that executing someone for converting from Islam is justified, then they'll believe that flying a plane into New York is also justified.

    Whether or not there should be A war on terror, is another matter. All I know is, what's going on at the moment is the worst of both worlds.
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  • Byrnzie wrote:
    'The International recognized Palestinian authority'? What a joke. You mean that they are recognized as legitimate by the U.S and it's poodle Britain? Sorry to burst your cosy little conservative bubble, but Britain and the U.S don't represent 'the international community'.

    Hamas is the official government as voted for in a democratic election by the people of Palestine. I suppose you believed that General Pinochet was legitimate simply because Margaret Thatcher said so?
    Oh, and I created a thread the other day re: 'Terrorism' which, as per usual, you obviously didn't bother to read. Instead you simply jumped on the back of 'Pearler' by criticising me for posting links to source material.
    If you'd actually read the article then you'd understand when I say that your use of the word 'terrorist' in the above post is completely redundant.

    I really couldn't give two shits if Hamas was elected "democratically". Liberals always love to point that out as if that somehow makes a government or regime acceptable. Hamas is an oppressive terrorist organization plain and simple. The American, British, "western way" is BETTER. We treat women better. We treat racial minorities better. We espouse freedom of religion and speech. Our way is a better way of doing things—not perfect in every way and lacking in many ways but better than any 2-bit 3rd world alternative. This should be blindingly obvious to any rational, educated human being.

    The fact that any of that even has to be pointed out is a sad reflection on our pathetic, postmodern culture but there it is.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    I really couldn't give two shits if Hamas was elected "democratically". Liberals always love to point that out as if that somehow makes a government or regime acceptable. Hamas is a terrorist organization plain and simple. The American, British, "western way" is BETTER. We treat women better. We treat racial minorities better. We espouse freedom of religion and speech. Our way is a better way of doing things—not perfect in every way and lacking in many ways but better than any 2-bit 3rd world alternative. The fact that any of that even has to be pointed out is a sad reflection on our pathetic, postmodern culture but there it is.

    This isn't about who treats women better.
    This isn't about terrorism.
    This isn't about racial minorities.
    This isn't about espousing freedom of religion and speech.
    This isn't about any 2-bit 3rd world alternative.
    This isn't about post modern American culture.

    What it is about is you believing anyone but yourself.

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I really couldn't give two shits if Hamas was elected "democratically". Liberals always love to point that out as if that somehow makes a government or regime acceptable. Hamas is an oppressive terrorist organization plain and simple.

    Funny you should describe them as an oppressive terrorist organization. The UN human rights envoy for the Palestinian Territories seems to think differently...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7044069.stm

    "Inevitably in a military occupation, there are likely to be those engaged in resistance."

    These people may be labelled terrorists, Mr Dugard added, but history treats them differently.

    He cited the example of the French Resistance during World War II, and those in Namibia who fought occupation by South Africa.

    "Now," he said, "they are in government and treated as heroes."


    And by the way, who exactly do you suppose Hamas is 'oppressing'?

    The American, British, "western way" is BETTER. We treat women better. We treat racial minorities better.

    This comment is laughable. 'We' treat racial minorities better? Does this we include 'Israel'? If so, ask any Palestinian living in Israel how they are treated. I'd love to hear their answer. Whilst we're at it, I wonder how any black, Asian, or Muslim living in Britain or the U.S would react to your comment?
    We espouse freedom of religion and speech. Our way is a better way of doing things—not perfect in every way and lacking in many ways but better than any 2-bit 3rd world alternative. This should be blindingly obvious to any rational, educated human being.

    The fact that any of that even has to be pointed out is a sad reflection on our pathetic, postmodern culture but there it is.

    The fact that so many people in our culture can have such a skewered, self-congratulatory, and prejudiced view of those who happen to live in the '3rd world', as evidenced in the above post, for example, is a sad reflection on our pathetic, subservient media and education system.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    The fact that so many people in our culture can have such a skewered, self-congratulatory, and prejudiced view of those who happen to live in the '3rd world', as evidenced in the above post, for example, is a sad reflection on our pathetic, subservient media and education system.

    Odd, but sadly not surprising.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • I'm sure a black person in Britain would say they're treated better than a black person in Darfur would.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:

    And by the way, who exactly do you suppose Hamas is 'oppressing'?

    the Palestinian people. we have all seen what happens if you oppose their party. they practically started a civil war.
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    This comment is laughable. 'We' treat racial minorities better? Does this we include 'Israel'? If so, ask any Palestinian living in Israel how they are treated. I'd love to hear their answer. Whilst we're at it, I wonder how any black, Asian, or Muslim living in Britain or the U.S would react to your comment?

    i would bet that they would have compliants but at the same time just becuase you don't treat them great does not mean that you treat them worse than other nation treat thereown.

    everyone in the world no matter where can say that their country does not treat them great, but i would put money on anyone to say that it is easier to be black in darfur,the COngo then in say the US. i could be wrong, but i would bet money that iam not.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Thecure wrote:

    everyone in the world no matter where can say that their country does not treat them great, but i would put money on anyone to say that it is easier to be black in darfur,the COngo then in say the US. i could be wrong, but i would bet money that iam not.

    you are way off. miles off actually. come visit the US, its not so bad.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Thecure wrote:

    everyone in the world no matter where can say that their country does not treat them great, but i would put money on anyone to say that it is easier to be black in darfur,the COngo then in say the US. i could be wrong, but i would bet money that iam not.

    you do know one of the main causes of GENOCIDE in darfur is b/c the Arabs are killing the Africans or black people, right? http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0714/p09s02-coop.html
    The Darfur pogrom is part of a historic continuum in which successive Arab governments have sought to entirely destroy black Africans in this biracial nation.
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