Is Israel's recent actions in Gaza a war crime?

DMITCH8080

El_Kabong wrote:

ok, my mistake, your reply to one of my threads and me misreading your reply in this thread made me think you were saying something else. i thought you were saying you think israel is the main ingredient (as in were physically behind) 9/11 based on what you've read in the thread.

i think that would be a large part of it, yes

I think we see it the same way.....I'm kind of lost with your post. Anyway, I think the tensions in the middle east can easily be pointed back at Isreal.

kenny olav

pjalive21 wrote:

what about the Palestinians who are shooting rockets over into Israel for fun?

oh sure, I bet they're all giggles about it. its so much fun when you feel you need to fire a rocket to defend yourself.

El_Kabong

Kenny Olav wrote:

oh sure, I bet they're all giggles about it. its so much fun when you feel you need to fire a rocket to defend yourself.

i wonder if they high five each other like those 5 israelis on top of that van 9/11?

kenny olav

miller8966 wrote:

The palestinians started this incursion...what you reap is what you sow

This incursion? Well, who started this whole conflict?

Let's ask the leaders of the Zionist movement:


David Ben-Gurion, first Prime Minister of Israel: "Why should the Arabs make peace? If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: they think we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there."

Ahad Ha'am, writing in "Truth from Eretz Israel": From abroad we are accustomed to believing that the Arabs are all desert savages, like donkeys, who neither see nor understand what goes on around them. But this is a big mistake... The Arabs, and especially those in the cities, understand our deeds and our desires in Eretz Israel, but they keep quiet and pretend not to understand, since they do not see our present activities as a threat to their future... However, if the time comes when the life of our people in Eretz Israel develops to the point of encroaching upon the native population, they will not easily yield their place.

Vladimir Jabotinsky: "(Arabs) look upon Palestine with the same instinctive love and true fervor that any Aztec looked upon his Mexico or any Sioux looked upon his prairie. To think that the Arabs will voluntarily consent to the realization of Zionism in return for the cultural and economic benefits we can bestow on them is infantile."

Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel 1999-2001: "If I were a Palestinian at the right age, I would have joined one of the terrorist organizations at a certain stage."

miller8966

im happy my tax dollars support israel and zionism.

DPrival78

miller8966 wrote:

im happy my tax dollars support israel and zionism.

so you're happy that your money goes to a foriegn government and their state-sponsored terrorism, rather than something like education or healthcare or something beneficial in this country?

miller8966

DPrival78 wrote:

so you're happy that your money goes to a foriegn government and their state-sponsored terrorism, rather than something like education or healthcare or something beneficial in this country?

I dont believe in socialized medicine...

And id like to see it go to educaton sure, but the U.S support of Israel is a huge priority imo.

El_Kabong

miller8966 wrote:

I dont believe in socialized medicine...

And id like to see it go to educaton sure, but the U.S support of Israel is a huge priority imo.

but moreso a priority than education?

themainevent

Israel-Palestine conflict is a very critical issue to the balance of the world. In my opinon it contributes largely to the growing terrorist movements in Islam. US's unwavering support for Israel then makes it, in the eyes of these barbaric terrorists a legitimate target.

Israel, certainly is a country which commits war crimes. It breached more UN resolutions than Iraq did and yet it retains the support of the US.

The violence is a vicious circle and to be honest I'm fed up of people who claim 'they started this, they started that, blah blah blah'. To be honest it reminds me of when me and my sister had arguments when we were 5 or 6. Someone, needs to take the 1st step to stop this cycle and as the sovereign state and occupier this undoubtedly has to be Israel. A two state solution is the only viable conclusion if there is to be peace in the area.

Is this realistic? NO, Israel have the unwavering (financial and diplomatic) support of the US, while this continues they won't feel the need to compromise. The US govt needs to do pinch Israel into making concessions if this happens then there might just might be a stabel cease fire and eventually a two state solution will be possible.