Haggard says he's not gay
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Haggard says he's not gay
By Eric Gorski
Denver Post Staff Writer
Denver Post
Article Last Updated:02/06/2007 09:55:15 AM MST
The Rev. Ted Haggard emerged from three weeks of intensive counseling convinced he is "completely heterosexual" and told an oversight board that his sexual contact with men was limited to his accuser.
That is according to one of the disgraced pastor's overseers, who on Monday revealed new details about where Haggard has been and where he is headed.
The Rev. Tim Ralph of Larkspur also said the four-man oversight board strongly urged Haggard to go into secular work instead of Christian ministry if Haggard and his wife follow through on plans to earn master's degrees in psychology.
Haggard broke a three-month silence in e-mails over the weekend to select members of his former church. New Life Church interim senior pastor Ross Parsley forwarded Haggard's message to the wider church body Monday.
In the message, Haggard revealed that he and his wife, Gayle, intend to leave Colorado Springs and pursue master's degrees through online courses.
Haggard mentioned Missouri and Iowa as possible destinations. Another oversight board member, the Rev. Mike Ware of Westminster, said the group recommended the move out of town, and the Haggards agreed.
"This is a good place for Ted," Ware said. "It's hard to heal in Colorado Springs right now. It's like an open wound. He needs to get somewhere he can get the wound healed."
Sex-addiction program
Haggard, 50, resigned as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and was fired from the church he built from nothing into a 14,000-member congregation after a former male prostitute in Denver alleged a three-year cash-for-sex relationship.
Haggard admitted to "sexual immorality" and a long battle against feelings contrary to his beliefs. He admitted buying methamphetamine but said he never used it. Haggard did not respond to interview requests.
Among other things, the overseers urged Haggard to enter a 12-step program for sexual addiction, Ware said.
Ralph said three weeks of counseling at an undisclosed Arizona treatment center helped Haggard immensely and left Haggard sure of one thing.
"He is completely heterosexual," Ralph said. "That is something he discovered. It was the acting- out situations where things took place. It wasn't a constant thing."
Why Haggard chose to act out in that manner is something Haggard and his advisers are trying to discern, Ralph said.
In investigating Haggard's assertion that his extramarital sexual contact was limited to former male escort Mike Jones, the board talked to people close to Haggard and found no evidence contradicting him, Ralph said.
"If we're going to be proved wrong, somebody else is going to come forward, and that usually happens really quickly," he said. "We're into this thing over 90 days, and it hasn't happened."
Steering Haggard away from a return to ministry was based, in part, on Haggard's high profile, Ralph said. He cited biblical passages about holding influential figures to a higher standard.
"Nobody is saying he can't go back into ministry," Ralph said. "Somewhere down the road, that could very well happen, and that would be wonderful."
Counseling continues
Haggard is being asked to join a church wherever the couple moves and continue the Christian counseling he receives twice a week, Ralph said.
The oversight board that includes Ralph is focusing on New Life Church's future but continues to counsel Haggard.
What has been termed Haggard's "restoration" is being overseen by another panel: H.B. London, who runs a Focus on the Family ministry to pastors, and megachurch pastors Tommy Barnett and Jack Hayford.
London said he was not surprised Haggard was considering the psychological field.
"Many of us that go into the healing, helping professions do so out of some sort of dysfunction or traumatic event in our lives, and we want to do what we can to help other people avoid what we've gone through," he said. "He is certainly gifted and intelligent and has an intuitive side to him. And he has life experience. Those are good credentials."
Staff writer Eric Gorski can be reached at 303-954-1698 or egorski@denverpost.com.
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Haggard says he's not gay
By Eric Gorski
Denver Post Staff Writer
Denver Post
Article Last Updated:02/06/2007 09:55:15 AM MST
The Rev. Ted Haggard emerged from three weeks of intensive counseling convinced he is "completely heterosexual" and told an oversight board that his sexual contact with men was limited to his accuser.
That is according to one of the disgraced pastor's overseers, who on Monday revealed new details about where Haggard has been and where he is headed.
The Rev. Tim Ralph of Larkspur also said the four-man oversight board strongly urged Haggard to go into secular work instead of Christian ministry if Haggard and his wife follow through on plans to earn master's degrees in psychology.
Haggard broke a three-month silence in e-mails over the weekend to select members of his former church. New Life Church interim senior pastor Ross Parsley forwarded Haggard's message to the wider church body Monday.
In the message, Haggard revealed that he and his wife, Gayle, intend to leave Colorado Springs and pursue master's degrees through online courses.
Haggard mentioned Missouri and Iowa as possible destinations. Another oversight board member, the Rev. Mike Ware of Westminster, said the group recommended the move out of town, and the Haggards agreed.
"This is a good place for Ted," Ware said. "It's hard to heal in Colorado Springs right now. It's like an open wound. He needs to get somewhere he can get the wound healed."
Sex-addiction program
Haggard, 50, resigned as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and was fired from the church he built from nothing into a 14,000-member congregation after a former male prostitute in Denver alleged a three-year cash-for-sex relationship.
Haggard admitted to "sexual immorality" and a long battle against feelings contrary to his beliefs. He admitted buying methamphetamine but said he never used it. Haggard did not respond to interview requests.
Among other things, the overseers urged Haggard to enter a 12-step program for sexual addiction, Ware said.
Ralph said three weeks of counseling at an undisclosed Arizona treatment center helped Haggard immensely and left Haggard sure of one thing.
"He is completely heterosexual," Ralph said. "That is something he discovered. It was the acting- out situations where things took place. It wasn't a constant thing."
Why Haggard chose to act out in that manner is something Haggard and his advisers are trying to discern, Ralph said.
In investigating Haggard's assertion that his extramarital sexual contact was limited to former male escort Mike Jones, the board talked to people close to Haggard and found no evidence contradicting him, Ralph said.
"If we're going to be proved wrong, somebody else is going to come forward, and that usually happens really quickly," he said. "We're into this thing over 90 days, and it hasn't happened."
Steering Haggard away from a return to ministry was based, in part, on Haggard's high profile, Ralph said. He cited biblical passages about holding influential figures to a higher standard.
"Nobody is saying he can't go back into ministry," Ralph said. "Somewhere down the road, that could very well happen, and that would be wonderful."
Counseling continues
Haggard is being asked to join a church wherever the couple moves and continue the Christian counseling he receives twice a week, Ralph said.
The oversight board that includes Ralph is focusing on New Life Church's future but continues to counsel Haggard.
What has been termed Haggard's "restoration" is being overseen by another panel: H.B. London, who runs a Focus on the Family ministry to pastors, and megachurch pastors Tommy Barnett and Jack Hayford.
London said he was not surprised Haggard was considering the psychological field.
"Many of us that go into the healing, helping professions do so out of some sort of dysfunction or traumatic event in our lives, and we want to do what we can to help other people avoid what we've gone through," he said. "He is certainly gifted and intelligent and has an intuitive side to him. And he has life experience. Those are good credentials."
Staff writer Eric Gorski can be reached at 303-954-1698 or egorski@denverpost.com.
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if you've dabbled..in anyway...and there's nothing wrong with it by the way....your there...there's no if's.
Soooo sad. Anyone that takes this idiot seriously needs to be committed.
I mean your not serious in your assertion that he's gay.....yes he's obsessed...and rightly so...he's gay...period. Again....and there's nothing wrong with it....again...if you have any negative feelings about who someones attracted to...you need help...simple really.
gay it up. you'll be happier.
cross the river to the eastside
don't fight it.....go with it.....be free....soo much better....oh well.
Gun oil???? ...sting no???
erm, there is an appropriate lube named 'gun oil' but that is not NRA sanctioned gun oil, if you know what i mean.
or that's what i'm told.
cross the river to the eastside
Only seen it in the movies?
yeah, something like that
cross the river to the eastside
Hail, Hail!!!
i thnk you misread me. i have no negative feelings about who anyone is attracted to. to me, a guy who prefers guys is not diff than a guy who prefers brunettes, simply a matter of what gets you going. but i dont believe haggard is actually gay. i think religious folk like him prefer to use things like homosexuality as a wicker man to compensate for the fact that their value system is quickly becoming hopelessly outdated. so they obsess over the evil of homosexuality and it begins to attain that "forbidden fruit" thing. so fear becomes hatred becomes obsession becomes curiosity becomes desire. and lo and behold, you have a prominent anti-gay crusader in a hotel getting massages from a call boy. i dont think he's gay, i think his obsessive and narrow-minded hatred of homosexuality has got the better of him.
and understand what your saying.... but there's no grey area....if you have sexual contact with member of your own sex... you have homosexual tendencies....isexual maybe but he is NOT hetrosexual..no way. On top of that..the boy is touched....big time.
I know I was pretty direct...just gets me when holly roller's get busted.
what is isexual?
and i enjoyed watching him get busted too, but i dont like calling him gay. it gives gay people a bad name.
i think there is a 'b' missing.
and there's going to be an asshole in every bunch . . .
or many--and it just depends how they're used.
cross the river to the eastside
I'm hoping he meant asexual, but maybe there is a new type of sexuality that starts with a different vowel.
LOL, this is exactly how I feel about this idiot.
I think you're probably right, but I'm still hoping for asexual. I think he is an asexual dude trying really hard to be something else, and trying to see if any of his bits fit in anybody elses' bits.
some people really do use the identifier 'asexual' and i think he is definitely not asexual--he wouldn't be having any sex at all.
but you can still dream.
cross the river to the eastside
Perhaps. I just think he's a con man.
A bisexual con man. Not that the bisexual part matters.
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That would be funny!
I bought the meth...but i didn't smoke it.....lol
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