Liberals on the Moving Train ... They'll stand up for gay rights when its Christians doing the bashing. When its Muslims, they skirt the issue and take another opportunity to bash Christians.
You guys aren't dumb, so there must be another explantion.
Maybe they are stupid if they are not dumb?
I took a swing at the "other" religion today. I feel so dirty!
The hatred of homos isn't a practice unique to islamics. I respect the fact that these muslims were at least standing up for what they believe in.
He was an amazing singer and a human being.....who gives a fuck what he liked to do with his Johnson?.....Someday all these religious nut jobs will get off their moral high horse and look in the mirror. It's dispicable that a man's sexual orientation is even an issue when trying to honor him.
one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
I respect the fact that these muslims were at least standing up for what they believe in.
they threatened to disrupt the event. you call that standing up for what they believe in?? they can voice their opinion, that's fine. but making threats to the point of getting the thing canceled is a bit much. what do they care?? it's a birthday gala for a dead guy who was born there. if people want to attend, that's their right. do you like it when people tell you what and what not to do?? of course not. they can just fuck off, right??
Another habit says it's in love with you
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
Also 69, your thread calling for the genocide of all Muslims showed us all what you think of Islam. You've made your feelings clear, no need to use Queen as the basis, in actual fact, they're a little bit shit.
Also 69, your thread calling for the genocide of all Muslims showed us all what you think of Islam. You've made your feelings clear, no need to use Queen as the basis, in actual fact, they're a little bit shit.
I still think it's going to come to that. It's a cancer that will not go away.
Just like cancer, we'll have to cut it out or use radiation
BTW, I don't have to defend Queen. Their work speaks for itself.
I still think it's going to come to that. It's a cancer that will not go away.
Just like cancer, we'll have to cut it out or use radiation
You might take note that we're far from eradicating cancer by cutting it out and using radiation. Contrarily, it's on the rise. Winning the battle is not the same as winning the war. The mutation of normal cells by our "treatment" seems to be a self-undermining process afterall.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
You might take note that we're far from eradicating cancer by cutting it out and using radiation. Contrarily, it's on the rise. Winning the battle is not the same as winning the war. The mutation of normal cells by our "treatment" seems to be a self-undermining process afterall.
Cancer is not on the rise and most previously deadly cancers can be completely erradicated if removed or treated early enough.
Looking at small successes and successes that occur within a specific context, even when the ultimate result is a deceased patient might be considered "wishing it all away". Overall deaths from cancer is on the rise. I can understand taking to the "battle on the enemy" in a similar way, in that this approach seems to be where we are at this time. I'm just saying, I can see that it's about focussing on some parts at the expense of ultimate resolution and it doesn't look to me as though it's working, so I'm not comfortable with perpetuating these cycles.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I think part of the problem is that these muslims in zanzibar don't even know who he is! If they knew how big he was in the West some of them might think otherwise and consider the positive impact it could have on tourism, such as attracting queen fans over with their perms and mullet hairdos. Maybe they could have a freddie mercury theme park to make the most of their local star.
However, I think its disgusting that these fundamentalists think that someone's sexuality is more important that whatever else they are. People who are gay can't help being gay, just like you can't help your colour, race etc. Religionistas really piss me off with their stupid predjudices and often unfounded assumptions. This world would be so much better without religious people!
"We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan --- London, Brixton, 14 July 1993 London, Wembley, 1996 London, Wembley, 18 June 2007 London, O2, 18 August 2009 London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012 Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
People who are gay can't help being gay, just like you can't help your colour, race etc. Religionistas really piss me off with their stupid predjudices and often unfounded assumptions. This world would be so much better without religious people!
Talk about unfounded! Where did you learn that homosexuality is the same as race? Are you saying it's genetic?
If it is genetic, what scientific studies are there to prove that this is so? I've not yet seen reliable evidence to make such a claim. We do not know nearly enough about the roots of homosexuality to make such broad claims of its origins. You should check your unfounded assumptions at the door, my friend.
Religious people tend to believe homosexuality is sinful because their scripture tells them so. When you say they are being prejudiced, you are ignoring the centuries of religious tradition and scripture that provide the moral compass for religious people. Prejudice is, at best, a cultural problem. Opposition to homosexual sex is an article of religion.
Furthermore, the world is much better off by the presence of religious people. Christians alone have discovered many scientific advancements. Christian clergy during the Rennaissance contributed much to scientific theory. Irish monks saved Latin. Muslims saved Aristotle's philosophy. The Jews have had numerous scientists. These people believed more in their faith than they believed in science. I think it is foolish to say that the world would be better off if they had never lived.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Religious people tend to believe homosexuality is sinful because their scripture tells them so. When you say they are being prejudiced, you are ignoring the centuries of religious tradition and scripture that provide the moral compass for religious people. Prejudice is, at best, a cultural problem. Opposition to homosexual sex is an article of religion.
Love the sinner, hate the sin?
Furthermore, the world is much better off by the presence of religious people. Christians alone have discovered many scientific advancements. Christian clergy during the Rennaissance contributed much to scientific theory. Irish monks saved Latin. Muslims saved Aristotle's philosophy. The Jews have had numerous scientists. These people believed more in their faith than they believed in science. I think it is foolish to say that the world would be better off if they had never lived.
There are many christian scientists, scholars, and philosophers that have recently offered great thoughts.
Personally, my astronomy professor was a devout christian and yet he was able to argue in favor of the Big Bang theory. In the face of all that science, he remained steadfast in his beliefs.
C.S. Lewis comes to mind as well. Many atheists can read his work and still appreciate it. J.R.R. Tolkien was a strong catholic. Many catholic clergy are great supporters of astronomical research.
There are plenty of christians today who are both scientifically inclined and religiously inclined.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Talk about unfounded! Where did you learn that homosexuality is the same as race? Are you saying it's genetic?
If it is genetic, what scientific studies are there to prove that this is so? I've not yet seen reliable evidence to make such a claim. We do not know nearly enough about the roots of homosexuality to make such broad claims of its origins. You should check your unfounded assumptions at the door, my friend.
Religious people tend to believe homosexuality is sinful because their scripture tells them so. When you say they are being prejudiced, you are ignoring the centuries of religious tradition and scripture that provide the moral compass for religious people. Prejudice is, at best, a cultural problem. Opposition to homosexual sex is an article of religion.
Furthermore, the world is much better off by the presence of religious people. Christians alone have discovered many scientific advancements. Christian clergy during the Rennaissance contributed much to scientific theory. Irish monks saved Latin. Muslims saved Aristotle's philosophy. The Jews have had numerous scientists. These people believed more in their faith than they believed in science. I think it is foolish to say that the world would be better off if they had never lived.
I never said that homosexuality is genetic. I said gay people can't help being gay. I don't know about any theories and who's right or wrong - this is just my observation and from people I know, and I can't see what's wrong with that comment. I don't know why gay people are gay, I just know they exist and don't deserve to be seen as anything less than equal to others. I don't want to turn this into a thread about the origins of homosexuality but are you saying they can help it then?
And I'm sorry, all that crap about religious people saving science is irrelevant. What's that got to do with anything anyway?
"We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan --- London, Brixton, 14 July 1993 London, Wembley, 1996 London, Wembley, 18 June 2007 London, O2, 18 August 2009 London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012 Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
And I'm sorry, all that crap about religious people saving science is irrelevant. What's that got to do with anything anyway?
You said the world would be better off without religious people. A world without religious people would also be without all of the scientific advancements they made through devotion to God.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
There are many christian scientists, scholars, and philosophers that have recently offered great thoughts.
Personally, my astronomy professor was a devout christian and yet he was able to argue in favor of the Big Bang theory. In the face of all that science, he remained steadfast in his beliefs.
C.S. Lewis comes to mind as well. Many atheists can read his work and still appreciate it. J.R.R. Tolkien was a strong catholic. Many catholic clergy are great supporters of astronomical research.
There are plenty of christians today who are both scientifically inclined and religiously inclined.
You said the world would be better off without religious people. A world without religious people would also be without all of the scientific advancements they made through devotion to God.
I really don't care about the faith of scientists or what difference it might have contributed to their achievements in science. That's negligible anyway otherwise why is there such a big gulf between science and religion over the years.
When I said that the world would be better off without religious people I was talking in context of the article and I still stand by it. For what its worth, I think religion should be a personal thing to individuals. Someone's relationship to their God should be their own personal thing - religio, especially organised religion, muddies the waters, it mind-controls people, and it has definitely contributed to the toll of human misery over the years.
"We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan --- London, Brixton, 14 July 1993 London, Wembley, 1996 London, Wembley, 18 June 2007 London, O2, 18 August 2009 London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012 Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
I really don't care about the faith of scientists or what difference it might have contributed to their achievements in science. That's negligible anyway otherwise why is there such a big gulf between science and religion over the years.
When I said that the world would be better off without religious people I was talking in context of the article and I still stand by it. For what its worth, I think religion should be a personal thing to individuals. Someone's relationship to their God should be their own personal thing - religio, especially organised religion, muddies the waters, it mind-controls people, and it has definitely contributed to the toll of human misery over the years.
I really don't care about the faith of scientists or what difference it might have contributed to their achievements in science. That's negligible anyway otherwise why is there such a big gulf between science and religion over the years.
When I said that the world would be better off without religious people I was talking in context of the article and I still stand by it. For what its worth, I think religion should be a personal thing to individuals. Someone's relationship to their God should be their own personal thing - religio, especially organised religion, muddies the waters, it mind-controls people, and it has definitely contributed to the toll of human misery over the years.
What about a homosexual scientist?.....wow that throws a monkey wrench into the whole thing.
one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
Not me dude. I'm an equal-opportunity disliker of religions in general. I try not to bash any religions - live and let live is my feeling. And obviously the muslims in the above story are NOT following live and let live.
No that's why you hate hate-mongering traditionalists that have to make a mark on things like this for the "moral of the common people" and related. These come with all kinds of religious backing.
But stupid, yes.
Peace
Dan
Sure, every religion has its fringe zealots. But are you not acknowledging a growing fundamentalist movement within Islam? I'm pretty sure this is the point of the post, that this incident is just another example of Muslims practicing intolerance. I mean let's just look around the world at the moment.
In Somalia, jihadists, with the support of al Qaeda, have clashed with troops loyal to the country's internationally recognized interim government and now threaten neighboring Ethiopia with all-out war.
Nearby in Darfur, Muslim militiamen called janjaweed are waging genocide against black Christian and animist villagers — apparently with the consent of the Sudanese government.
Shiite and Sunni militias, each claiming to represent true Islam, keep slaughtering each other in Iraq.
Hezbollah ("Party of God") seeks to destroy democracy in Lebanon by provoking Israel, which it is sworn to eliminate.
On the West Bank, Hamas and Fatah have taken a timeout from their attacks on Israel to murder each other and innocent bystanders.
The Iranian Shiite theocracy — when not hosting Holocaust deniers or sending terrorists into Iraq — issues serial pledges to finish off Israel.
The shaky Pakistani leadership pleads that it can neither target Osama bin Laden nor stop Taliban jihadists hiding out in the remote regions of Pakistan from streaming back into Afghanistan.
In Europe, opera producers, novelists, cartoonists and filmmakers are increasingly circumspect out of fear of death threats from Islamists.
All of the above violence and intolerance has one thing in common - at least one if not both sides are envoking their religion for their actions. I can't think of another religion that is currently involved in these types of problems, can you?
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Maybe they are stupid if they are not dumb?
I took a swing at the "other" religion today. I feel so dirty!
But you liked it, didn't ya?
The sweet smell of logical consistency!
Like a wild animal with the scent of blood on me. I WANT MORE!!!
He was an amazing singer and a human being.....who gives a fuck what he liked to do with his Johnson?.....Someday all these religious nut jobs will get off their moral high horse and look in the mirror. It's dispicable that a man's sexual orientation is even an issue when trying to honor him.
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
Anyone...Muslim, Christian, Boy Scout, Fetus, salamander...trying to stop a celebration of Freddie is an idiot.
Sad.
The Show Must Go On!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.wishlistfoundation.org
Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
i never knew he was a parsi zorastor or from that background
http://groups.msn.com/PearlJamNirvana/messages.msnw
they threatened to disrupt the event. you call that standing up for what they believe in?? they can voice their opinion, that's fine. but making threats to the point of getting the thing canceled is a bit much. what do they care?? it's a birthday gala for a dead guy who was born there. if people want to attend, that's their right. do you like it when people tell you what and what not to do?? of course not. they can just fuck off, right??
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
I still think it's going to come to that. It's a cancer that will not go away.
Just like cancer, we'll have to cut it out or use radiation
BTW, I don't have to defend Queen. Their work speaks for itself.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Cancer is not on the rise and most previously deadly cancers can be completely erradicated if removed or treated early enough.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Gonna wish it all away?
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
However, I think its disgusting that these fundamentalists think that someone's sexuality is more important that whatever else they are. People who are gay can't help being gay, just like you can't help your colour, race etc. Religionistas really piss me off with their stupid predjudices and often unfounded assumptions. This world would be so much better without religious people!
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London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
London, Wembley, 1996
London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
London, O2, 18 August 2009
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
Talk about unfounded! Where did you learn that homosexuality is the same as race? Are you saying it's genetic?
If it is genetic, what scientific studies are there to prove that this is so? I've not yet seen reliable evidence to make such a claim. We do not know nearly enough about the roots of homosexuality to make such broad claims of its origins. You should check your unfounded assumptions at the door, my friend.
Religious people tend to believe homosexuality is sinful because their scripture tells them so. When you say they are being prejudiced, you are ignoring the centuries of religious tradition and scripture that provide the moral compass for religious people. Prejudice is, at best, a cultural problem. Opposition to homosexual sex is an article of religion.
Furthermore, the world is much better off by the presence of religious people. Christians alone have discovered many scientific advancements. Christian clergy during the Rennaissance contributed much to scientific theory. Irish monks saved Latin. Muslims saved Aristotle's philosophy. The Jews have had numerous scientists. These people believed more in their faith than they believed in science. I think it is foolish to say that the world would be better off if they had never lived.
-Enoch Powell
Love the sinner, hate the sin?
That's history, we're talking about today.
naděje umírá poslední
There are many christian scientists, scholars, and philosophers that have recently offered great thoughts.
Personally, my astronomy professor was a devout christian and yet he was able to argue in favor of the Big Bang theory. In the face of all that science, he remained steadfast in his beliefs.
C.S. Lewis comes to mind as well. Many atheists can read his work and still appreciate it. J.R.R. Tolkien was a strong catholic. Many catholic clergy are great supporters of astronomical research.
There are plenty of christians today who are both scientifically inclined and religiously inclined.
-Enoch Powell
I never said that homosexuality is genetic. I said gay people can't help being gay. I don't know about any theories and who's right or wrong - this is just my observation and from people I know, and I can't see what's wrong with that comment. I don't know why gay people are gay, I just know they exist and don't deserve to be seen as anything less than equal to others. I don't want to turn this into a thread about the origins of homosexuality but are you saying they can help it then?
And I'm sorry, all that crap about religious people saving science is irrelevant. What's that got to do with anything anyway?
---
London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
London, Wembley, 1996
London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
London, O2, 18 August 2009
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
You said the world would be better off without religious people. A world without religious people would also be without all of the scientific advancements they made through devotion to God.
-Enoch Powell
So what's your point?
naděje umírá poslední
I really don't care about the faith of scientists or what difference it might have contributed to their achievements in science. That's negligible anyway otherwise why is there such a big gulf between science and religion over the years.
When I said that the world would be better off without religious people I was talking in context of the article and I still stand by it. For what its worth, I think religion should be a personal thing to individuals. Someone's relationship to their God should be their own personal thing - religio, especially organised religion, muddies the waters, it mind-controls people, and it has definitely contributed to the toll of human misery over the years.
---
London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
London, Wembley, 1996
London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
London, O2, 18 August 2009
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
http://www.wishlistfoundation.org
Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
What about a homosexual scientist?.....wow that throws a monkey wrench into the whole thing.
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
Sure, every religion has its fringe zealots. But are you not acknowledging a growing fundamentalist movement within Islam? I'm pretty sure this is the point of the post, that this incident is just another example of Muslims practicing intolerance. I mean let's just look around the world at the moment.
In Somalia, jihadists, with the support of al Qaeda, have clashed with troops loyal to the country's internationally recognized interim government and now threaten neighboring Ethiopia with all-out war.
Nearby in Darfur, Muslim militiamen called janjaweed are waging genocide against black Christian and animist villagers — apparently with the consent of the Sudanese government.
Shiite and Sunni militias, each claiming to represent true Islam, keep slaughtering each other in Iraq.
Hezbollah ("Party of God") seeks to destroy democracy in Lebanon by provoking Israel, which it is sworn to eliminate.
On the West Bank, Hamas and Fatah have taken a timeout from their attacks on Israel to murder each other and innocent bystanders.
The Iranian Shiite theocracy — when not hosting Holocaust deniers or sending terrorists into Iraq — issues serial pledges to finish off Israel.
The shaky Pakistani leadership pleads that it can neither target Osama bin Laden nor stop Taliban jihadists hiding out in the remote regions of Pakistan from streaming back into Afghanistan.
In Europe, opera producers, novelists, cartoonists and filmmakers are increasingly circumspect out of fear of death threats from Islamists.
All of the above violence and intolerance has one thing in common - at least one if not both sides are envoking their religion for their actions. I can't think of another religion that is currently involved in these types of problems, can you?