Foo's vs Nirvana

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  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    markymark550 wrote:
    Wrong forum, but...

    If Kurt was still alive, I'm not so sure that the Foo's would even be in existence as a band.

    You never know how changing history would have affected the present....


    agreed about the Foo's being in exsistence.

    IMO, there is no way that Nirvana would not be then, and still now, the biggest band around. ( and i'm not a huge Nirvana fan, i like them a lot, i respect Kurt, but.... ) they would still be the shit, i think Kurt would have warmed up to his posistion in life, much like Eddie did, and i think the music that would have come from him/them, would have been great. i started likeing them more towards the end though, so i could be wrong.

    i didnt like their huge songs that everyone else liked, i like the more obscure shit. anyway. i think Nirvana would still be HUGE. and that means, no FOO, and even if Dave G. left the band , it wouldnt matter.
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  • the wolf
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    Eddie Better wrote:
    dave has done alright with his band.........too bad kurt didn't recognise his talents as a songwriter while he was in Nirvana. They could have written songs together, Cobain/Grohl. They could have been the grunge version of Lennon/McCartney.......


    i also agree with this.
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  • the wolf
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    pjoasisrule wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0gzFbqxJ0Y


    what is "this" ( above) supposed to prove? they were a good noise band, that is not brutal it thats what you were going for.

    again, i think Nirvana would be HUGE, but, i dont get this.
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    without question nirvana would be bigger (in a hypothetical universe that allows both bands to coexist)

    i think dave would have eventual become more active within nirvana as a singer/songwriter and some foo material may still have surfaced in a different way... probably would end up being even better with kurts help...

    honestly tho, while i like the foos they can be a lil gimmicky at times and their songs are too straight forward in general...

    im not one to suck off kurt or anything and its unfortunate the catelogue of the band is overshadowed by his death... but they were an AMAZING band
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  • sponger
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    I remember being 16 and rocking nirvana tablature on an ibanez electric in my friend's garage while he banged away on his CB700 or something drumset.

    Any negative comments about Nirvana would've been fightin' words back then.
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  • Them-Bones
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    Anyone who shits on Cobain should really be thank full he made the music he did, because if it wasn't for Nirvana, most of us would've never heard of Pearl Jam
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  • dirtyT
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    know1 wrote:
    I agree in that I think Dave wasn't going to be in Nirvana much longer. He was already working on the material that became the first Foo album. If he'd have stayed in Nirvana, it would have really held him back as a musician.
    agreed
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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Them-Bones wrote:
    Anyone who shits on Cobain should really be thank full he made the music he did, because if it wasn't for Nirvana, most of us would've never heard of Pearl Jam
    that was stated, he opened some doors for better bands/musicinas to come through.
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  • DOSW
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    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    This is an argument about the Foos and Nirvana, not the Foos and an edgy, raw, tortured, brutal, grungey awesome band ;)

    Seriously though. Nirvana never made anything that comes near to "brutal". Even the most harrowing of Kurt's songs had either a pop sensibility or was just insanely contrived and naive. His best songs were the ones that displayed his love for guitar pop music like the Vaselines. Nirvana's version of Son of a Gun is better than any crap like "Rape Me".

    Songs like Scentless Apprentice and Milk It sound pretty brutal to me...
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  • reeferchief
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    DOSW wrote:
    Songs like Scentless Apprentice and Milk It sound pretty brutal to me...

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  • Jeremy1012
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    pjoasisrule wrote:
    You sound like a hipster. Just because Nirvana was popular does not mean that they werent edgy and brutal. Just because somebody was edgy and brutal before Nirvana doesnt take away from them being the same. I know that Nirvanas best songs were their rock songs that were full of hooks but I think basically everything they made was great.
    I'm not intending to sound like a hipster, I just don't see anything brutal in Endless Nameless. If you ask me, Nirvana's most brutal moments (if indeed they had any) were songs like Polly. Musically they weren't "brutal" at all. Making dissonant guitar noise does not a brutal song make.
    DOSW wrote:
    Songs like Scentless Apprentice and Milk It sound pretty brutal to me...
    really? Agree to disagree then.
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  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    really? Agree to disagree then.

    The soundwaves that come out of my speakers when those songs are playing peel the skin off my face like sandpaper.... so yeah, I'd say they're pretty brutal. :D

    But that's just me.
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  • Jack_C_Gregory
    Jack_C_Gregory Posts: 540
    I wish the Foo's would've continued to go in this direction...

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=RG0qw4TFti4
  • LukinTimer
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    Saturnal wrote:
    Cobain's influence when he was alive was much greater than Grohl's has ever been. Grohl is very talented (as much, maybe more than Cobain musically speaking), but it's extremely rare for that many people to connect so personally with an artist like they connected with Cobain. That's why Nirvana was so popular...their legacy has little to do with his premature death.

    I agree. Nirvana's legacy has little to do with Cobain's early death. After all these years, it can be difficult to remember the affect he had on music and the "youth of that time." (That phrase cracks me up. :D) It was profound. And it started LONG before he killed himself... it wasn't a result of his death. I think it's easy to forget that if you weren't around, or into music at that time.

    I do like the Foos, and seeing them live several times it's hard to imagine Dave staying put behind the drums.. I think his head would explode.
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  • HermanBloom
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    DOSW wrote:
    Boring generic hard rock music with no personality vs edgy, raw, tortured, brutal grungey awesomeness.

    Tough call there.
    agreed
    Kurt was leaving Nirvana before he died anyways.

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  • depopulationINC
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    yellowled24 wrote:
    Over where I am, their songs get thrashed on the radio! Though saying that, Nirvana is on atleast once a day.
    I just wondered if Nirvana was so famous because of the fact Kurt killed himself? If Dave Grohl killed himself, would Foo's popularity rise more than if he stayed alive? Is this a shallow way to be famous??? Does it mean more, or less?

    You may like Nirvana, you may not, but, they were one of the most influential bands in history. They changed rock. Yes, I know...the groundwork was already there from other bands, but Nevermind changed everything. I don't see how it can be denied that Nirvana opened doors for a heap of bands to follow.

    The same can be said for the Beatles.

    The same can be said for Hank Williams.



    Foo might be a better band, but they will never be as influential.
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  • catefrances
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    depopulationINC wrote:
    Foo might be a better band, but they will never be as influential.

    might being the operative word. :D
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  • depopulationINC
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    catefrances wrote:
    might being the operative word. :D


    indeed...I am a huge fan of Nirvana. I have friends who hate them, so I am like...okay...let me make you 1 CD and see what you think. I have never had a person not come back disappointed.

    I mean...seriously...start looking at some of the not mainstream(ish) stuff...

    I typically make people a CD with some of these:
    Do Rei Me
    The Man Who Sold The World
    You know your right
    Very Ape
    Spank Thru
    Been a Son
    Seasons In The Sun
    Scentless Apprentice

    Verse Chorus Verse (acoustic version)
    Return Of The Rat
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  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    I don't think Nirvana and the Foos are anything alike.....


    I much prefer Nirvana.....


    Foos are too, i dunno, too something.....feels false.....
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  • depopulationINC
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    catefrances wrote:
    might being the operative word. :D


    indeed...I am a huge fan of Nirvana. I have friends who hate them, so I am like...okay...let me make you 1 CD and see what you think. I have never had a person not come back disappointed.

    I mean...seriously...start looking at some of the not mainstream(ish) stuff...

    I typically make people a CD with some of these:
    Do Rei Me
    The Man Who Sold The World
    You know your right
    Very Ape
    Floyd The Barber
    Dumb
    Lake of fire
    Spank Thru
    Lounge Act (my fav Nirvana song)
    I Hate Myself And I Want To Die
    Been a Son
    Seasons In The Sun
    Scentless Apprentice
    On A Plain
    Verse Chorus Verse (acoustic version)
    Return Of The Rat
    Where did you sleep last night
    Mexican Seafood (ya gatta add this just because)
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

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