Stuck In The Early 90's

dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
edited March 2008 in Other Music
It is my own personal belief that us lucky people who were growing up in the early 90's, were apart of the second best ever musical era in history. My Opinion. It's hard to touch what was going on when the Stones, and Zeppelin, Beatles, Doors, Floyd, Hendrix, Joplin, Clapton, Dylan, etc and etc. were out and young. But inthe 90's looking back, we had great shit, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, AIC, Soundgarden, Pumpkins, Sublime, Blind Melon, Rage, NIN, STP, ETC and ETC. Several other bands I have left off that I feel had a great album or 2, but you get my drift. IMO, besides just a couple bands that have come out in the past few years, I can't get into to anything new. In fact, if I want to listen to something new and fresh, I end up listneing to shit from the 90's that I never gave a fair chance.

Anyone else have the same, stuck in my musical youth disease that I have?
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  • mole1985mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    Yeah most music today does kinda suck. I would agree with you that the 90s was probably the second best wave of music altho I was a little young when it all happened and didn't listen to music then.
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  • goldenegggoldenegg Posts: 371
    My ex would only listen to PJ and 90's music. Drove me a little crazy after a while.

    I agree that the 90's really do stand out as having some incredible music. It's funny, because I was attending a conference this past week and they had Collective Soul perform one evening. For the 1.5 hors they were on stage, it was the 90's again and it was great. Not to say that CS is the end all of 90's bands, but it was cool none the less.

    There really is a lot of great music still being released. The problem nowadays is that you really need to weed through all the crap that's coming out along side the good stuff. The best way I've found to discover new music is download all the music I can get my hands on. If I find something good, then (and only then) will I buy it. I've just become so tired of spending $17 on a CD, only to be let down again.

    There really is something to say about the things you grew up with though. I often complain that music\movies\video games aren't what they used to be. Hopefully I can continue to appreciate what's coming down the pipe. I don't want to find myself years from now, banging on my kid's door yelling "Turn that crap down!" :-)
  • kent_fkent_f Posts: 28
    I was born in 1984 and I payed a lot of attention to music as I grew up. Today when I listen to XM and Sirius I spend most of my time on the "flannel channels" (ie: Lithium and Lucy).
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  • goldenegggoldenegg Posts: 371

    Dude ... that brings back memories.

    I went to Thornlea S.S., where at least one of these guys attended high school. They played at the school twice while I was there.
  • Brain Of EBrain Of E Posts: 499
    I know exactly how you feel, most music today does suck and we're able to recognize it because we grew up listening to stuff that was extremely good. so we know the difference. But it seems these days it's really hard to filter through all the crap to get to the good stuff.
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  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    I think it's fine to dwell on the past, but I don't like how everyone are the moment has gotten into the "new music is shit" frame of mind. It's simply a different music climate. Sure things aren't what they were in the early 90s, but at the moment live bands are mixing more and more into club culture and this is the result. I think at the moment we're in a transitional phase, just as what happened in the 80s. Afterall, great new music always follows a time of 'bad' music. We wouldn't have had grunge without hair metal. I love the progression that occurs in music, wouldn't have it any other way.
    So who knows what will come in the 10s, music is all swings and roundabouts.
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  • The early 90s was certainly the best period for rock and rap, IMO. The late 60s early 70s was excellent, but I honestly find it to be second. Today's rock is just a watered down version of what happened in the 90s, just like most of the popular 80s rock was watered down versions of Zep and others. This is very true, even if over generalized. Will a rock be renewed like it was by the grunge movement??? Doesn't seem likely, but we can hope. Rap - that was its best moment ever. Its total shit now, way worse than today's rock music.
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  • I think you are forgetting about the best period of music ever...the late 80's.

    Ratt, Twisted Sister, Warrant, Faster Pussycat, Great White, Bon Jovi, Whitesnake, Motley Crue, Skid Row, Def Leppard, Poison...

    It doesn't get any better than that.

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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    The early 90s was certainly the best period for rock and rap, IMO. The late 60s early 70s was excellent, but I honestly find it to be second. Today's rock is just a watered down version of what happened in the 90s, just like most of the popular 80s rock was watered down versions of Zep and others. This is very true, even if over generalized. Will a rock be renewed like it was by the grunge movement??? Doesn't seem likely, but we can hope. Rap - that was its best moment ever. Its total shit now, way worse than today's rock music.
    great observation, I think "grunge" and 90's rock should most definitely get more credit than it deserves because not wasn't it huge and commercially successful but it was competition from other genres especially rap music. the 60's was pure rock and it pioneered a new movement of bands who were singer-songwriters-musicians but didn't really have much competition. so in my opinion, "grunge"/90's rock is the greatest period.
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  • i like matt.ci like matt.c Posts: 1,121
    Oh yeah, I'm stuck in the 90's. But It was sooo good, I do like some new bands (really like a couple but not that many) but I keep going back to stuff before or during the 90's.
  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    fowls wrote:
    I think it's fine to dwell on the past, but I don't like how everyone are the moment has gotten into the "new music is shit" frame of mind. It's simply a different music climate. Sure things aren't what they were in the early 90s, but at the moment live bands and mixing more and more into club culture and this is the result. I think at the moment we're in a transitional phase, just as what happened in the 80s. Afterall, great new music always follows a time of 'bad' music. We wouldn't have had grunge without hair metal. I love the progression that occurs in music, wouldn't have it any other way.
    So who knows what will come in the 10s, music is all swings and roundabouts.

    I agree. And to be fair, any new band that tries to do the whole grungey sound gets shot down for not comparing with the originals.

    I'm quite happy with where things are at musically right now. Yeah it's more difficult to find good new music, but it is out there. When the grunge/alt rock scene happened music was kind of handed to you on a plate by the record companies. Because there isn't any real dominant scene at the moment (other than maybe emo - which sucks!) you just need to look for it. That's why I spend most of time on this 'Other Music' part of the forum, cause I know people with similar tastes to me will always be introducing me to new bands.
  • OdinOdin Posts: 599
    I was in your position back in 2005, when I first started to get back into rock music after a ten-year hiatus. These days, I've moved onto other shit: Mastodon, Neurosis, Baroness, Porcupine Tree, The Sword, Clutch, Coliseum and Rwake to name a few. People still stuck in the early 1990s need to expand their horizons. Not all post-grunge rock is garbage.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    The early nineties were only good because the kind of music you like went mainstream for that period. Stop listening to what corporate radio shoves down your throat. There's plenty of good new music out there.
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    I think you are forgetting about the best period of music ever...the late 80's.

    Ratt, Twisted Sister, Warrant, Faster Pussycat, Great White, Bon Jovi, Whitesnake, Motley Crue, Skid Row, Def Leppard, Poison...

    It doesn't get any better than that.

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  • I loved / love the music of the 86-95 (mainly came to light in the early 90s w/ Nirvana), but, I do recognize that there are some great new bands out today to.

    Muse has one of the bes albums out in a couple decades
    Foo Fighters are superb
    Audioslave
    Beck is still making great music
    I am a fan of Disturbed, Breaking Benjamin, Three Days Grace, New Pornographers, She Wants Revenge, Flyleaf, Silver Sun P/Us, Weezer, White Stripes, The Strokes, The Vines, The Hives, Bullet For My Valentine, The Bravery, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club

    ....these are just some of the more well known bands.
    If you do a bit of digging you would be amazed what you will find. The beauty of the internet is that you can always find new, underground/indie bands that you will enjoy. I must come across a band a month that I have never heard of. When my friends listen to them they are generally like "WTF...where did you find that..."

    I admit that pop EMO and rap/hiphop have really taken over the airwaves of late...but in no way is there a lack of solid rock out there.

    EVERY generation looks back at the music that they grew up with and says "todays music just doesn't touch it." This makes sense, because there are masses of profound moments in our younger life. These may not be as monumental as some the moments later, but they are much more abundant. Anyone who is into music is going to associate the radical developments of youth to the music that surrounds them...that is the beauty of evolving music...it truly can be linked to a generation.

    In ten years, todays youths are going to look back at todays music and say the same thing.

    there is only one thing that remains true...eventually people look back to the pre-package, marketing based music...and wonder why they ever listened to it (ie...most pop...which has little to no depth or real statement)
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  • I loved / love the music of the 86-95 (mainly came to light in the early 90s w/ Nirvana), but, I do recognize that there are some great new bands out today to.

    Muse has one of the bes albums out in a couple decades
    Foo Fighters are superb
    Audioslave
    Beck is still making great music
    I am a fan of Disturbed, Breaking Benjamin, Three Days Grace, New Pornographers, She Wants Revenge, Flyleaf, Silver Sun P/Us, Weezer, White Stripes, The Strokes, The Vines, The Hives, Bullet For My Valentine, The Bravery, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club

    ....these are just some of the more well known bands.
    If you do a bit of digging you would be amazed what you will find. The beauty of the internet is that you can always find new, underground/indie bands that you will enjoy. I must come across a band a month that I have never heard of. When my friends listen to them they are generally like "WTF...where did you find that..."

    I admit that pop EMO and rap/hiphop have really taken over the airwaves of late...but in no way is there a lack of solid rock out there.

    EVERY generation looks back at the music that they grew up with and says "todays music just doesn't touch it." This makes sense, because there are masses of profound moments in our younger life. These may not be as monumental as some the moments later, but they are much more abundant. Anyone who is into music is going to associate the radical developments of youth to the music that surrounds them...that is the beauty of evolving music...it truly can be linked to a generation.

    In ten years, todays youths are going to look back at todays music and say the same thing.

    there is only one thing that remains true...eventually people look back to the pre-package, marketing based music...and wonder why they ever listened to it (ie...most pop...which has little to no depth or real statement)


    P.S....think of those poor people had disco as the "voice" of their generation.
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

    And I won't make the same mistakes
    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
    (And function)
    Function is the key
  • dirtyT wrote:
    It is my own personal belief that us lucky people who were growing up in the early 90's, were apart of the second best ever musical era in history. My Opinion. It's hard to touch what was going on when the Stones, and Zeppelin, Beatles, Doors, Floyd, Hendrix, Joplin, Clapton, Dylan, etc and etc. were out and young. But inthe 90's looking back, we had great shit, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, AIC, Soundgarden, Pumpkins, Sublime, Blind Melon, Rage, NIN, STP, ETC and ETC. Several other bands I have left off that I feel had a great album or 2, but you get my drift. IMO, besides just a couple bands that have come out in the past few years, I can't get into to anything new. In fact, if I want to listen to something new and fresh, I end up listneing to shit from the 90's that I never gave a fair chance.

    Anyone else have the same, stuck in my musical youth disease that I have?

    yeah It happens to me too,I always end up listening to 90s bands
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  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    dirtyT wrote:
    It is my own personal belief that us lucky people who were growing up in the early 90's, were apart of the second best ever musical era in history. My Opinion. It's hard to touch what was going on when the Stones, and Zeppelin, Beatles, Doors, Floyd, Hendrix, Joplin, Clapton, Dylan, etc and etc. were out and young. But inthe 90's looking back, we had great shit, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, AIC, Soundgarden, Pumpkins, Sublime, Blind Melon, Rage, NIN, STP, ETC and ETC. Several other bands I have left off that I feel had a great album or 2, but you get my drift. IMO, besides just a couple bands that have come out in the past few years, I can't get into to anything new. In fact, if I want to listen to something new and fresh, I end up listneing to shit from the 90's that I never gave a fair chance.

    Anyone else have the same, stuck in my musical youth disease that I have?
    I hear ya man. We were blessed with great music on the airwaves back then. I was raised on classic rock because that's what my parents had growing up so I grew up on Beatles, Dylan, Tom Petty, Moody Blues, Fleetwood Mac ect). Us Generation Xers were lucky to have such great music dominating the airwaves during our youth. As someone previously mentioned though, it really depends on the time in which you were growing up and what you were raised listening to. "emo" is the in thing on corporate radio so kids that are Teens today or pre teens are listening to that cause that's what is popular in their musc culture right now.
    I am glad to see numerous 90s acts get back together for reunion shows even if only for a breif period of time. I think it's cool that some of the bands went on to other projects too and put out solo records. Even though I don't particularily hold the supergroups (Velvet revolver, Audioslave for example)as high as primary projects, at least the artists never went away. Even though, Shannon Hoon, and Layne Stayley have passed, at least the members of those bands have given their fans a chance to hear those songs once again even though, there is that empty space. I have found that I am more into local and unsigned bands now, just because the radio does not adhere to my personal taste, other than the fact some grunge acts are getting more frequent radio play again. Music is such a huge part of my life, it totally helped me define who I am because aside from family, most of the time music is all I have had to fall back on.
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    I loved / love the music of the 86-95 (mainly came to light in the early 90s w/ Nirvana), but, I do recognize that there are some great new bands out today to.

    Muse has one of the bes albums out in a couple decades
    Foo Fighters are superb
    Audioslave
    Beck is still making great music




    Don't foget, Foo Fighters, Dave rohl, from th early 90's
    Audioslave= Soundgarden + Rage
    Beck, early 90's.
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  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    I woulds agree with Dirty T, Considering my high school years were 92-95, I was very lucky with music selection.

    There are a few gems putting out music great music today, we just find them in different manners (i.e internet) than we did back then. MTV was still mostly playing videos, we had 120 minutes and alternative nation if I remember correctly. Even headbangers ball showcased Nirvana and AIC. Downloading songs hadn't even been thought of so if you liked a video....you went and bought the CD that was wrapped in a footlong plastic case and listened to it on your brand spanking new CD walkman that had the "stability" button so it wouldn't skip. Good times.
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Gremmie95 wrote:
    I woulds agree with Dirty T, Considering my high school years were 92-95, I was very lucky with music selection.

    There are a few gems putting out music great music today, we just find them in different manners (i.e internet) than we did back then. MTV was still mostly playing videos, we had 120 minutes and alternative nation if I remember correctly. Even headbangers ball showcased Nirvana and AIC. Downloading songs hadn't even been thought of so if you liked a video....you went and bought the CD that was wrapped in a footlong plastic case and listened to it on your brand spanking new CD walkman that had the "stability" button so it wouldn't skip. Good times.
    That is correct. And that kind of makes me realize that our bands back then went mainstream or whatever a previous poster said because they had to. There wasn't all the accessable musical outlets there are today. We had to go out and find it the hard way. For me, it was 120 min and Alt Nation, and USED CD STORES on High Street in Columbus, Oh like Used Kids, and Magnolia Thunderpussy.

    And I remember the long cd cases. Also, we dodn't make cd, we made mixed fucking tapes! Gremmie gave me my first ever "boot" pj via a mixed tape. NICE!
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  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    dirtyT wrote:
    That is correct. And that kind of makes me realize that our bands back then went mainstream or whatever a previous poster said because they had to. There wasn't all the accessable musical outlets there are today. We had to go out and find it the hard way. For me, it was 120 min and Alt Nation, and USED CD STORES on High Street in Columbus, Oh like Used Kids, and Magnolia Thunderpussy.

    And I remember the long cd cases. Also, we dodn't make cd, we made mixed fucking tapes! Gremmie gave me my first ever "boot" pj via a mixed tape. NICE!

    HAHA! What was that, 93ish? Oh the amount of money we would pay for HORRIBLE sounding bootlegs back in the day. Glad there are better options today! I still miss the "used bin" at Threshold in Heath.......found many a gem in that pile! Lucky us, we have Best Buy to shop at now.......dirty low down sonsabitches.
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Gremmie95 wrote:
    HAHA! What was that, 93ish? Oh the amount of money we would pay for HORRIBLE sounding bootlegs back in the day. Glad there are better options today! I still miss the "used bin" at Threshold in Heath.......found many a gem in that pile! Lucky us, we have Best Buy to shop at now.......dirty low down sonsabitches.
    Yep, it was right after Vs came out. It contained these great rarities:
    The Part Where I Play The Pope
    Love You, Hate You
    Masters Of War, at that time it was a rarity
    And many others...

    You know that was another great thing about he early 90's was all the great rare bootlegged shit. Call me old fashioned but i enjoyed going into a used cd store and spending about 3 hours looking through stuff and going through the "boot" sections a lot more than sitting on my fat ass like a zombie in front of computer screen surfing for stuff. Back in those days, you appreciated a find more because if you wanted it, you had to buy, and spend around 30-50 bucks to get it. There wans't a simple dowload and delete what you didn;t like. You had to take a risk to find good music and rare shit from your favorite bands.

    Sorry, stuck in good ole days mode now!
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  • i hate how most of the musicians I like are closing in on 50 and all the new ones coming out are 10 years younger than me...
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    i hate how most of the musicians I like are closing in on 50 and all the new ones coming out are 10 years younger than me...
    Good call. It appears to me that in the next 20 years I may be done going to concerts. Sad to think about.
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  • I was stuck for a while, but I got over it. It's sad to see people so unwilling to open themselves up and search for new music...like the thought of finding something that inspires them more than Pearl Jam or AIC just doesn't enter their minds.

    Fact is, we didn't grow up in a special time for music. We grew up during a time when the music that we loved just happened to be popular. IMO, the absolute best music era (if there is such a thing) is right now. Right now there are so many great bands out there, and they're so easy to find with the technology we have today. The talent pool just keeps growing and growing. The potential many bands/artists have today is frighteningly great. I love it.
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    dirtyT wrote:
    Good call. It appears to me that in the next 20 years I may be done going to concerts. Sad to think about.
    Dude, we're living in a generation where some of us (not all) actually look a decade than they really are. I'm almost 26 and I look like a 18-year-old. It helps when you don't smoke and is living a healthy lifestyle.

    A girl who I used to work with looks like she's 45, but I found out she's only 3 years old than I am. :eek: 3 kids and a severe smoking habit will age you a lot older than you look.

    EDIT: So I see nothing wrong with being 50 and going to concerts.
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  • Saturnal wrote:
    I was stuck for a while, but I got over it. It's sad to see people so unwilling to open themselves up and search for new music...like the thought of finding something that inspires them more than Pearl Jam or AIC just doesn't enter their minds.

    Fact is, we didn't grow up in a special time for music. We grew up during a time when the music that we loved just happened to be popular. IMO, the absolute best music era (if there is such a thing) is right now. Right now there are so many great bands out there, and they're so easy to find with the technology we have today. The talent pool just keeps growing and growing. The potential many bands/artists have today is frighteningly great. I love it.

    I disagree, I think there was a lot more good music that was easily accessible in the 90s. You didn't have to search for it, even just the stuff on the radio was good and cool. It seemed a lot easier to go into a record store and pick up something random and have it be pretty decent. I think the 90s were an excellent time for music, and I think it was just lucky for me that I turned 12 in 90 and 21 in 2000. I think the 80s are underestimated though, because so much of the good stuff in the 90s grew out of 80s college radio and underground scenes. We just think of it as 90s because that's when it became accessible.
  • LongRd. wrote:
    Dude, we're living in a generation where some of us (not all) actually look a decade than they really are. I'm almost 26 and I look like a 18-year-old. It helps when you don't smoke and is living a healthy lifestyle.

    A girl who I used to work with looks like she's 45, but I found out she's only 3 years old than I am. :eek: 3 kids and a severe smoking habit will age you a lot older than you look.

    well hell, I'm 30 and look about 23, but I'm still 30. Probably 40% of my CDs have been on my shelf for over 15 years.
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