Anyone here still buy physical CD's?
musicismylife78
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To be honest, and if we were honest with ourselves, we wouldnt act like those who download and engage in filesharing were criminals and deviants. A recent study showed of ALL MUSIC consumed and obtained in the u.s. a full on 57 percent was downloaded illegally. So thats a clear majority people. Lets face it, our generation, and the new generation doesnt buy cd's. I dont. Who on here does? Who wants to spend 100 bucks on 5 cd's at a store, when you can buy a 100 pack of blanks for 20?
There are bands like Tool who put effort into their artwork and album covers and liner notes, but lets face it, beyond the art work, the lyrics to any song is available on any song lyrics website. And we have access to more photos than the photos in liner notes.
I have no respect for any musician who comes out in opposition to file sharing. Sure, they may dislike it, but to suggest people who download illegally are somehow deserving of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of fines and possible jail time, thats absurd. These people arent transporting and obtaining crack, they are downloading music! The industry and buisness model has changed. As far as I am concerned, any musician needs to understand that or find a new line of work. Either you recognize that filesharing is how most people get music nowadays, or you live in denial and think you can stop it, or curb it, or strike fear into downloaders by severly punishing a few people. Take your pick. I know which side I choose.
Music should be fairly paid for, but if I am having to pay 20 bucks for one cd, thats absurd and I refuse to do it.
I say good luck to those who are discouraging downloading of music. Good luck stopping something that cant be stopped. Maybe you want to catch that falling star I see in the sky as well, while your at it!
Music is important to people. Music is essential for some, and is a job or employment for some. But if you think for one minute people are going to go and spend 20 bucks buying the new Wolf Parade, when they can download it for free, you are on LSD or something.
Do musicians deserve to be paid, sure. But lets face it, they arent getting much of that 20 bucks
There are bands like Tool who put effort into their artwork and album covers and liner notes, but lets face it, beyond the art work, the lyrics to any song is available on any song lyrics website. And we have access to more photos than the photos in liner notes.
I have no respect for any musician who comes out in opposition to file sharing. Sure, they may dislike it, but to suggest people who download illegally are somehow deserving of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of fines and possible jail time, thats absurd. These people arent transporting and obtaining crack, they are downloading music! The industry and buisness model has changed. As far as I am concerned, any musician needs to understand that or find a new line of work. Either you recognize that filesharing is how most people get music nowadays, or you live in denial and think you can stop it, or curb it, or strike fear into downloaders by severly punishing a few people. Take your pick. I know which side I choose.
Music should be fairly paid for, but if I am having to pay 20 bucks for one cd, thats absurd and I refuse to do it.
I say good luck to those who are discouraging downloading of music. Good luck stopping something that cant be stopped. Maybe you want to catch that falling star I see in the sky as well, while your at it!
Music is important to people. Music is essential for some, and is a job or employment for some. But if you think for one minute people are going to go and spend 20 bucks buying the new Wolf Parade, when they can download it for free, you are on LSD or something.
Do musicians deserve to be paid, sure. But lets face it, they arent getting much of that 20 bucks
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I prefer physical cd's, go to best buy on tuesday and they're $9.99.
The only thing illegal I do is get burned copies of some CD's that I wouldn't normally buy.
What are those?
if it were a band i was vaguely interested in i probably would. just to see hwat theyre like.
but if it were a band i had time invested in then id support them by buying a physical CD. plus i need to have the artwork. i need to have something to hold in my hand.
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I like to actually OWN a CD that's had, as you say, the linear notes and effort into the art work. I like to sit and say "you know, I fancy listening to such and such an album" and physically getting up and putting it on. I don't know, maybe i'm a bit idealistic about music (I own a fair bit of vinyl for someone my age).... but don't get me wrong, I do 'acquire' downloads too.
I got my grubby mitts on the new MMJ album in the last few weeks and I listen to it (oh how I listen to it!) but as soon as it becomes avaliable in the music stores/amazon.com, I will be buying it. For me, Downloads provide a *cough* free way to listen to music before you spend your hard earned $20 (where are you buying music from?! I spend £5 tops on CDs!) on the actual CD... a kind of preview if you like.
I will probably continue to buy CDs til they are phased out completely tbh, I like CDs... they're my friends
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
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I always come out with something and I have no problem paying for them either. I tend to buy things when sales are on, but if there's a new album out by a favorite artist then I'm usually first in the door to buy whatever the price.
I get songs sent to me and I've been known to burn cd's and get burned cd's from friends but I usually end up buying the actual cd in the end anyway.
Hell, the burned copy I got of The Audreys made me covet the actual cd so much I ended up buying several copies and giving them to friends too, so I'm really not seeing how the artist is missing out here. I have no problem supporting the artists, I do have a problem making fat cat music execs fatter but ultimately I'll probably always buy cds.
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downloads suck ! I like to have the real cd, with the cover, lyrics, etc.
I donwload a bit but something like 10% of the music I listen (except for PJ boots).
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On the contrary, I see the other side of the argument. The music biz is just simply luck of the draw with the major labels especially. I have gotten to know the lead singer of my 2nd alltime fave band and I can tell you from what I've read Interscope fucked them over bad. Do I know any personal details, no. But it sucks to have a band get screwed just because music genre have switched and the band didn't have the particular sound the corporate execs want.
As you stated though Music distribution has changed. Music Biz people have been forced to adhere to the digital age, even though they still release physical cds.
Me personally, I still buy local artists bands because they need the money. If I can get a signed album I'll buy it too.
I also buy physical cds of my favorite bands.
Also, the industry has used tools to make money in the download age of music. The label will often times add bonus or deluxe editions of albums to Itunes or rhapsody. They may not make as much money but at least the record companies have compromised with us music lovers.
Yep, music has changed, and I'm probably forever fucked living my dream of being in the industy, but oh well.
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Those are the tracks that scream "Download Illegally"
i am still paying off my credit card debt from the ones i bought in the 90s (back before Best Buy sold them for 10 bucks)
The record industry has my 17 bucks hundreds of times over. If they blew it all so executives could sit in an office high above New York City and sign Nickelback, i feel no remorse for downloading something good and supporting those artists through other means.
Hahaha . . . there was an indie record store two blocks from my college campus. I used to hit it up between classes, I spent way beyond my share in those four years. I still buy cd's of artists I REALLY love to have the physical copy, but a majority of my music these days is downloaded or burned copies. The money I save is more cash for concerts and band merch.
ps. You do know what Chad Kroeger does to Nickelback haters? He sends monster ballads after them
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However, I download music for a number of reasons.
1. I occasionally download a new album to see what I think of the music. If I like the music I'll buy a copy. If not I'll delete the album shortly there after.
2. I have an emusic account now, so a large portion of my music collection now consists of legal music downloads. I thought I would miss the artwork, but for the most part I don't. The only exception is that on occasion I want to read the liner notes to find out who wrote what, etc.. I also figure that if I really love the album I can always buy a physical copy later on.
3. I have a small vinyl collection including some recent albums which I haven't purchased on CD. I'm not against downloading the digital files for my iPod considering the fact that I did pay the band for the music in another format.
4. This is slightly off topic, but I'm a huge fan of torrents for the purpose of downloading live recordings and rarities, including the occasional album that is no longer in circulation. I love the fact that I can expand my music collection on a daily basis guilt free and for no cost.
I go to an independent 2nd hand record store and look through all the CDs they have, and pick out what I like. Occasionally get a CD purely because of its artwork since the CDs are so much cheaper I like to take the risk every once in a while. I like the mysticism of it all. Don't know what's there and everythings not quite in alphabetical order because so many people have flicked through them all. I much prefer finding hidden gems and buying them rather than going to the store with a predetermined idea of what I'm going to get.
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But with lots of new stuff, I have to admit to downloading. But if I like what I hear, I'll go out and buy the physical CD. That's just me. I like to have it in my hand.
So my message to artist who moan about illegal downloads is, make good music. That way I'll go out and buy it!
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I suppose cd prices are a bit out of control, but WalMart (the evil empire that it is) is currently holding the industry by the balls and demanding more reasonable prices. It did the same about five years or so ago, but probably didn't have as much leverage as it does now in that battle. So I hope some relief is on the way....the only problem is that WalMart carries so little of the music I would purchase and I damn sure don't want to buy a cd with the dirty words edited, so unless the reduced pricing -- if that happens -- carries over to other outlets it won't do me much good
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So keep downloading all the free mp3 files you want, they sound horrible anyway, if any of the people that download all this crap had half a brain they'd go buy a used turntable somewhere and start listening to music the way it's suppose to sound. Or at least a decent CD player with a good Digital to Analog converter connected to it. WAKE UP young people you're listening to SHITTY sounding music.
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you said it all. mp3s are junk. unless youre downloading flac or shn, with free music you get what you paid for.
that 57% is a bit scary. now artist may not recieve much of the 12.99 cd price but the label is. if the label stops making money you think they will pay for artist studio time? we could very well face bands not releasing anything soon. if you want to hear new songs buy a ticket....... sure people will tape the shows but you'll have a pretty terrible sounding new album, compared to studio.