i loved that show, small venue, hearing i am a patriot at my first show was something i never would have imagined.
i would not have enjoyed as much if i tried to stay up front, it was hot and people were pushing and shoving like crazy, it was insanity.
If citymouse isn't kidding, then he's out of his mind...if blood and patriot didn't do it for you ed hangin upside down off rodman darn sure should have
texas may have been a dennis disaster, maine was not
This was my first ever PJ show. It was just ok. One of the least energetic shows Ive heard from my nearly 700 live boot collection. ONLY 105 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!
09/22/96 - John F. Savage Hall: Toledo, OH
attendance: 9,000
set: Sometimes, Hail Hail, Animal, In My Tree, Spin the Black Circle, Corduroy, Last Exit, Better Man, Lukin, Not for You, Jeremy, Even Flow, Mankind, Daughter/(I Believe in Miracles), Habit, I Got Shit, Alive, Blood
enc 1: Go, Who You Are, Rearviewmirror, Leaving Here
enc 2: Indifference
notes: Ed totally botches the start of 'I Got Shit.' He tells everyone that has to go to school the next day that he'll write them excuse notes (so they can continue to play). A stunning closing with 'Indifference' with the house lights up. A solid show before a smallish crowd.
I guess it's better than this:
02/21/92 - International II: Manchester, England
notes: The evening of this show, PJ's tour bus was held up by thieves.
This was my 1st show as well and i completely disagree. Not in my top 10 or anything but not worst AT ALL. I could never rate a show they play indifference, leaving here, i got shit, blood, daughter/miracles as bad especially my memories of the way they played that night
Of the shows i've seen, I'd have to say hartford '06 was my least favorite. Not that it was bad, but not the level of the other performances i've been lucky to see
Detroit 06 Pearl Jam was on fire, Ed gave an angry 93 like performance so it had it's own uniquness, but the Monday crowd was sleepy, plus the Palace is huge (24,000 cap.) and there were only like 14,000 people in attendence, which gave it a lack of intimacy. Esp. compared with Grand Rapids the previous Friday which the crowd was extremely energetic and the venue was roughly half the size. I heard the show sandwiched in between Detroit and Grand Rapids was pretty energetic too.
San Fran in 95? When Eddie had to leave because he was ill... It turned into a cool NeilJam set, but im sure people there were pissed
This was my first PJ show. At the time I was disappointed at first, but as the set unfolded with Neil I realized how cool it was to see the entire Mirrorball album played plus some other great Neil songs. Pearl Jam did play seven songs so the entire concert was long. I would definitely rate it as the most "unique", but not bad in any way, shape or form.
If citymouse isn't kidding, then he's out of his mind...if blood and patriot didn't do it for you ed hangin upside down off rodman darn sure should have
texas may have been a dennis disaster, maine was not
did all that happen?? I was just smushed into some guy's armpit for a few hours (I'm actually a girl, and a short one to boot). I couldn't hear or see anything, couldn't breathe... I couldn't even identify what song they were playing at points! Plus the band seemed to be at a (somewhat, of course) lower point in the 95-96 range.
did all that happen?? I was just smushed into some guy's armpit for a few hours (I'm actually a girl, and a short one to boot). I couldn't hear or see anything, couldn't breathe... I couldn't even identify what song they were playing at points! Plus the band seemed to be at a (somewhat, of course) lower point in the 95-96 range.
I'm sorry you had such a bad show, especially when this holds such an epic spot in my pj memory bank
Ed climbed on rodman's shoulders for alive and then hung upside down
I'm not that tall myself but was at the rail and had great people around me (i'm also from NYC and nothing prepares you for the pit quite as well as NYC subway system/NJ path during rush hour:))
not saying it wasn't easy and after the show i was sopping wet but it was worth it and definitely ranks in my top ten
my vote is for Knoxville. they acted like they didnt want to be there, and turned off a friend of mine on the band. they didnt sound that great either.
Nassau coliseum 03
They got booed for bush leaguer, then the crowd started to chant USA,
in the aimes bros poster book mike said that was the first time in a long time he remembered being booed.
Eddie gave one of the greatest speaches i ever heard from anyone
"we are on the brink of forever" was one of the greatest things i ever herd him say.
They finished the show w/ rockin in the free worild & at the end of the song ed started chanting usa , usa , then threw the mike stand as hard as he could & walked angrily of stage!
EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO THAT SPEECH , UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE!
Chef Rah
"I'll wait up in the dark for you to speak to me"
"We are on the brink of forever"
People complain about it because they only care about setlists.
correct. Cincy 06 was fucking great! i still need the DVD boot ( hint hint to someone out there )
i even thought the setlist was solid.
as far as bad shows go, they were just off in maui 98 night I . i remember paying 50 bucks for the boot, and being like, "what the fuck" its still fun to listen to though, you can tell ed was just pissed that they were not firing on all cylinders.
Peace, Love.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
Although I enjoyed the show, Ed called us out on 6/1/03 at Shoreline Amphitheatre for being lackluster or something. Seemed like a good corwd where I was standing. But that sucked.
Not my favorite at the time. I had gone to the baseballgame earlier and was a little sunstroked by the time I got to the show.
later I listened to the boot and it was actually amazing, go figure.
back to the topic
Gorge 2 06 not really bad my most bands standards, just ok by PJ standards.
Nassau coliseum 03
They got booed for bush leaguer, then the crowd started to chant USA,
in the aimes bros poster book mike said that was the first time in a long time he remembered being booed.
Eddie gave one of the greatest speaches i ever heard from anyone
"we are on the brink of forever" was one of the greatest things i ever herd him say.
They finished the show w/ rockin in the free worild & at the end of the song ed started chanting usa , usa , then threw the mike stand as hard as he could & walked angrily of stage!
EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO THAT SPEECH , UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE!
This however I thought was a GREAT show.
after bushleaguer, things got intense.
from what i recall it was Bushleaguer - Know Your Rights - RITFW
I was a great show up until this point, which turns it into a great boot.
And a nice version of Patriot too.
Life has nothing to do with killing time.
So why be satisfied?
They are known for being a band who puts on one of the best live shows and plays like every show is their last, buts lets be real people, even Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods have off days.
What were some of the worst shows in PJ history? Shows where their heart didnt seem in it? Shows where everything went wrong?
Originally Posted by cant findabetterband
Nassau coliseum 03
They got booed for bush leaguer, then the crowd started to chant USA,
in the aimes bros poster book mike said that was the first time in a long time he remembered being booed.
Eddie gave one of the greatest speaches i ever heard from anyone
"we are on the brink of forever" was one of the greatest things i ever herd him say.
They finished the show w/ rockin in the free worild & at the end of the song ed started chanting usa , usa , then threw the mike stand as hard as he could & walked angrily of stage!
EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO THAT SPEECH , UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE!
after bushleaguer, things got intense.
from what i recall it was Bushleaguer - Know Your Rights - RITFW
I was a great show up until this point, which turns it into a great boot.
And a nice version of Patriot too.
This boot is tremendous!!! He pissed alot of people off that night.....he says at one point..."no, no...this is good.....good, open debate." "I hear ya brother, USA, USA"
---CLASSIC ED!!---
Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996), East Troy, Wisconsin (June 26, 1998), Noblesville, Indiana (August 17, 1998), Noblesville, Indiana (August 18, 2000), Cincinnati, Ohio (August 20, 2000), Columbus, Ohio (August 21, 2000), Nashville, Tennessee (April 18, 2003), Champaign, Illinois (April 23, 2003), Noblesville, Indiana (June 22, 2003), Chicago, Illinois (May 16, 2006), Chicago, Illinois (August 05, 2007), West Palm Beach, Florida (June 11, 2008), Tampa, Florida (June 12, 2008), Columbus, OH (May 06, 2010), Noblesville, Indiana (May 07, 2010), Wrigley Field (July 19, 2013), US Bank Arena (October 01, 2014), Lexington (April 26, 2016), Chicago Night 2 (August 20, 2018), Boston Night 1 (September 02, 2018), Nashville (September 16, 2022), St. Louis (September 18, 2022)
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I'm going to say Hershey '03 (of the shows that I've been to.) It was an add-on show and was the night after their marathon Boston show (45+ songs?) The venue sucked and the band just seemed tired and not into it.
On the other hand, it's where 'mosquito bites' was born, so I guess it had it's moments.
I sort of agree, but the setlist made up for the lack of energy. Help Help, SOLAT with the harmonica, and deep! I too drove from Boston and was in a daze though! The sound there really sucks though!
I've been to eight shows, and the worst show, except for Roskilde, is SydneyII 06. I had terrible seats and the crowd was sleeping through the entire show. I still enjoyed it though!
2000: Roskilde
2006: Sydney I,II,III
2007: London, Copenhagen
2008: MSG I,II
2009: Manchester, London
2010: London
2011: Toronto I,II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2012: Berlin I,II, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen
People complain about it because they only care about setlists.
LOL says the guy that went to the show from Cincinnati.
I love it when someone will say a show wasn't so good and immediatly you get someone that went to the show to come and tell you how great the energy was like they have some obligation to stick up for the show because they went. I'm not singling out cincybearcat- everyone does it. It's just funny
after bushleaguer, things got intense.
from what i recall it was Bushleaguer - Know Your Rights - RITFW
I was a great show up until this point, which turns it into a great boot.
And a nice version of Patriot too.
Your dead on , it was great for us but ithe fans were hard on the band , not me , it was there 1st show in NY since 9/11 & quite a few new yorkers got offended!
Chef Rah
"I'll wait up in the dark for you to speak to me"
"We are on the brink of forever"
LOL says the guy that went to the show from Cincinnati.
I love it when someone will say a show wasn't so good and immediatly you get someone that went to the show to come and tell you how great the energy was like they have some obligation to stick up for the show because they went. I'm not singling out cincybearcat- everyone does it. It's just funny
No Way! I was there and the energy was amazing! Everyone was standing and signing along to every song- I kid you not
I agree 100%
It had to be the best show because "I was there" or "It was in the city near where I live where my favorite sports team plays." There is little difference from night to night, city to city. Granted sometimes there is a noticible difference. Like it was easy to see how much the Cincy crowd sucked compared to the other shows I have gone to. In general, what makes a good concert is about 90% setlist, 9% band energy, 1% crowd energy.
Every PJ show is great, so when I talk about a bad concert, you have to take it in context.
Alpine Valley - I think it was in 2000. Outdoor venue. Wisconsin. 30 degrees outside. Yes it certainly was the Ice Bowl and the guys were brave to finish the show out, but all the crowd could focus on was how darn cold they were!!!
WI '98, WI '99 (EV), WI '00, Chgo '00, MO '00, Champaign '03, Chgo '03, WI '03, IN '03, MI '04, Chgo '06:N1 & 2, WI '06, Chgo '07, Chgo '08 (EV:N1), Chgo '09:N1 & 2, Chgo '11 (EV:N1), WI '11:N1 & 2, Philly '12, Wrigley '13, Pitt '13, Buff '13, Detroit '14, MKE '14, Wrigley '16: N1 & N2, Seattle '18 N2, Wrigley '18: N1 & N2, Fenway '18 N1, STL '22, St Paul '23 N2, Chgo '23: N1 & N2
It had to be the best show because "I was there" or "It was in the city near where I live where my favorite sports team plays." There is little difference from night to night, city to city. Granted sometimes there is a noticible difference. Like it was easy to see how much the Cincy crowd sucked compared to the other shows I have gone to. In general, what makes a good concert is about 90% setlist, 9% band energy, 1% crowd energy.
Every PJ show is great, so when I talk about a bad concert, you have to take it in context.
90% setlist?????
If they only played songs from Rearviewmirror but played them flawlessly and with tremendous emotion and energy then I would consider it a great show.
Setlists filled with rare songs are overrated for someone who can't afford the time and money to follow the band around.
If I only see PJ 2 or 3 times on there tour I want to hear all of my favorites not just rare songs I've never heard before, that aren't all that great.
10/31/2000 (****)
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
I'm going to say Hershey '03 (of the shows that I've been to.) It was an add-on show and was the night after their marathon Boston show (45+ songs?) The venue sucked and the band just seemed tired and not into it.
On the other hand, it's where 'mosquito bites' was born, so I guess it had it's moments.
agree.
Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
This was my first ever PJ show. It was just ok. One of the least energetic shows Ive heard from my nearly 700 live boot collection. ONLY 105 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!
09/22/96 - John F. Savage Hall: Toledo, OH
attendance: 9,000
set: Sometimes, Hail Hail, Animal, In My Tree, Spin the Black Circle, Corduroy, Last Exit, Better Man, Lukin, Not for You, Jeremy, Even Flow, Mankind, Daughter/(I Believe in Miracles), Habit, I Got Shit, Alive, Blood
enc 1: Go, Who You Are, Rearviewmirror, Leaving Here
enc 2: Indifference
notes: Ed totally botches the start of 'I Got Shit.' He tells everyone that has to go to school the next day that he'll write them excuse notes (so they can continue to play). A stunning closing with 'Indifference' with the house lights up. A solid show before a smallish crowd.
I guess it's better than this:
02/21/92 - International II: Manchester, England
notes: The evening of this show, PJ's tour bus was held up by thieves.
hey, this was my first show too! but i dug it. maybe its just the whole experience that i dug more then the show. long story short, didnt have tickets, drove from cincy anyway. scalpers were out of their minds. got bummed, wound up side stage for face value when they released tickets a few hours b4 the show. very cool.
Peace, Love.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
Like it was easy to see how much the Cincy crowd sucked compared to the other shows I have gone to.
where was it easy to see? maybe it was just my section, but i thought the cincy crowd was great....and i'm not from there nor does my favorite sports team play there.
I'm going to say Hershey '03 (of the shows that I've been to.) It was an add-on show and was the night after their marathon Boston show (45+ songs?) The venue sucked and the band just seemed tired and not into it.
On the other hand, it's where 'mosquito bites' was born, so I guess it had it's moments.
while i don't really want to complain about any show...i have had a great time at every pj show i've been to (:) ).... hershey '03 was my least favorite...for all the reasons you mentioned. plus it wasn't fan club seating and the people around me sucked.
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If citymouse isn't kidding, then he's out of his mind...if blood and patriot didn't do it for you ed hangin upside down off rodman darn sure should have
texas may have been a dennis disaster, maine was not
'00 12 shows / '03 4 shows / '06 6 shows
'08 3 shows / '09 5 shows / '10 6 shows
This was my 1st show as well and i completely disagree. Not in my top 10 or anything but not worst AT ALL. I could never rate a show they play indifference, leaving here, i got shit, blood, daughter/miracles as bad especially my memories of the way they played that night
Of the shows i've seen, I'd have to say hartford '06 was my least favorite. Not that it was bad, but not the level of the other performances i've been lucky to see
'00 12 shows / '03 4 shows / '06 6 shows
'08 3 shows / '09 5 shows / '10 6 shows
This was my first PJ show. At the time I was disappointed at first, but as the set unfolded with Neil I realized how cool it was to see the entire Mirrorball album played plus some other great Neil songs. Pearl Jam did play seven songs so the entire concert was long. I would definitely rate it as the most "unique", but not bad in any way, shape or form.
Haven't heard San Diego '06 yet?
The curfew was disappointing, but there's no way that makes it one of the worse PJ shows EVER. I thought the show was still great
did all that happen?? I was just smushed into some guy's armpit for a few hours (I'm actually a girl, and a short one to boot). I couldn't hear or see anything, couldn't breathe... I couldn't even identify what song they were playing at points! Plus the band seemed to be at a (somewhat, of course) lower point in the 95-96 range.
I'm sorry you had such a bad show, especially when this holds such an epic spot in my pj memory bank
Ed climbed on rodman's shoulders for alive and then hung upside down
I'm not that tall myself but was at the rail and had great people around me (i'm also from NYC and nothing prepares you for the pit quite as well as NYC subway system/NJ path during rush hour:))
not saying it wasn't easy and after the show i was sopping wet but it was worth it and definitely ranks in my top ten
'00 12 shows / '03 4 shows / '06 6 shows
'08 3 shows / '09 5 shows / '10 6 shows
They got booed for bush leaguer, then the crowd started to chant USA,
in the aimes bros poster book mike said that was the first time in a long time he remembered being booed.
Eddie gave one of the greatest speaches i ever heard from anyone
"we are on the brink of forever" was one of the greatest things i ever herd him say.
They finished the show w/ rockin in the free worild & at the end of the song ed started chanting usa , usa , then threw the mike stand as hard as he could & walked angrily of stage!
EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO THAT SPEECH , UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE!
"I'll wait up in the dark for you to speak to me"
"We are on the brink of forever"
correct. Cincy 06 was fucking great! i still need the DVD boot ( hint hint to someone out there )
i even thought the setlist was solid.
as far as bad shows go, they were just off in maui 98 night I . i remember paying 50 bucks for the boot, and being like, "what the fuck" its still fun to listen to though, you can tell ed was just pissed that they were not firing on all cylinders.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
Not my favorite at the time. I had gone to the baseballgame earlier and was a little sunstroked by the time I got to the show.
later I listened to the boot and it was actually amazing, go figure.
back to the topic
Gorge 2 06 not really bad my most bands standards, just ok by PJ standards.
San Fran 95 definately the worst.
after bushleaguer, things got intense.
from what i recall it was Bushleaguer - Know Your Rights - RITFW
I was a great show up until this point, which turns it into a great boot.
And a nice version of Patriot too.
So why be satisfied?
Nassau coliseum 03
They got booed for bush leaguer, then the crowd started to chant USA,
in the aimes bros poster book mike said that was the first time in a long time he remembered being booed.
Eddie gave one of the greatest speaches i ever heard from anyone
"we are on the brink of forever" was one of the greatest things i ever herd him say.
They finished the show w/ rockin in the free worild & at the end of the song ed started chanting usa , usa , then threw the mike stand as hard as he could & walked angrily of stage!
EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO THAT SPEECH , UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE!
This boot is tremendous!!! He pissed alot of people off that night.....he says at one point..."no, no...this is good.....good, open debate." "I hear ya brother, USA, USA"
---CLASSIC ED!!---
Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996), East Troy, Wisconsin (June 26, 1998), Noblesville, Indiana (August 17, 1998), Noblesville, Indiana (August 18, 2000), Cincinnati, Ohio (August 20, 2000), Columbus, Ohio (August 21, 2000), Nashville, Tennessee (April 18, 2003), Champaign, Illinois (April 23, 2003), Noblesville, Indiana (June 22, 2003), Chicago, Illinois (May 16, 2006), Chicago, Illinois (August 05, 2007), West Palm Beach, Florida (June 11, 2008), Tampa, Florida (June 12, 2008), Columbus, OH (May 06, 2010), Noblesville, Indiana (May 07, 2010), Wrigley Field (July 19, 2013), US Bank Arena (October 01, 2014), Lexington (April 26, 2016), Chicago Night 2 (August 20, 2018), Boston Night 1 (September 02, 2018), Nashville (September 16, 2022), St. Louis (September 18, 2022)
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I thought Harvest Moon from Philly '05 was pretty good...
Agree 100%, bad setlist, low energy from the band and crowd, crappy venue and city.
I sort of agree, but the setlist made up for the lack of energy. Help Help, SOLAT with the harmonica, and deep! I too drove from Boston and was in a daze though! The sound there really sucks though!
04/25/03 05/02/03 5/3/03 6/24/03 6/28/03 7/5/03 7/6/03 7/11/03 7/12/03 7/14/03
09/28/04 09/29/04 10/01/04 10/02/04
09/28/05 09/30/05 10/03/05
5/24/06 5/25/06 5/27/06 5/28/06 5/30/06 6/01/06 6/03/06 6/23/06 6/24/06 7/22/06 7/23/06
6/20/08 6/22/08 6/24/08 6/25/08
2006: Sydney I,II,III
2007: London, Copenhagen
2008: MSG I,II
2009: Manchester, London
2010: London
2011: Toronto I,II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2012: Berlin I,II, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen
LOL says the guy that went to the show from Cincinnati.
I love it when someone will say a show wasn't so good and immediatly you get someone that went to the show to come and tell you how great the energy was like they have some obligation to stick up for the show because they went. I'm not singling out cincybearcat- everyone does it. It's just funny
No Way! I was there and the energy was amazing! Everyone was standing and signing along to every song- I kid you not
Your dead on , it was great for us but ithe fans were hard on the band , not me , it was there 1st show in NY since 9/11 & quite a few new yorkers got offended!
"I'll wait up in the dark for you to speak to me"
"We are on the brink of forever"
I agree 100%
It had to be the best show because "I was there" or "It was in the city near where I live where my favorite sports team plays." There is little difference from night to night, city to city. Granted sometimes there is a noticible difference. Like it was easy to see how much the Cincy crowd sucked compared to the other shows I have gone to. In general, what makes a good concert is about 90% setlist, 9% band energy, 1% crowd energy.
Every PJ show is great, so when I talk about a bad concert, you have to take it in context.
04/25/03 05/02/03 5/3/03 6/24/03 6/28/03 7/5/03 7/6/03 7/11/03 7/12/03 7/14/03
09/28/04 09/29/04 10/01/04 10/02/04
09/28/05 09/30/05 10/03/05
5/24/06 5/25/06 5/27/06 5/28/06 5/30/06 6/01/06 6/03/06 6/23/06 6/24/06 7/22/06 7/23/06
6/20/08 6/22/08 6/24/08 6/25/08
Philly- 2005, 2013, 2016
Camden 2000, 2003, 2006, 2008, 2022
Philly Spectrum 2009 x4 - We closed that MFER Down Proper
DC- 2006, 2008
New York- 2008, 2010
Boston - Fenway 2016
New Jersey- 2006
Chicago - 2007
Seattle- 2005
EV Solo- DC x2, Baltimore x2 , Newark NJ x2, Tower Theater x2
- Given To Fly
90% setlist?????
If they only played songs from Rearviewmirror but played them flawlessly and with tremendous emotion and energy then I would consider it a great show.
Setlists filled with rare songs are overrated for someone who can't afford the time and money to follow the band around.
If I only see PJ 2 or 3 times on there tour I want to hear all of my favorites not just rare songs I've never heard before, that aren't all that great.
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
hey, this was my first show too! but i dug it. maybe its just the whole experience that i dug more then the show. long story short, didnt have tickets, drove from cincy anyway. scalpers were out of their minds. got bummed, wound up side stage for face value when they released tickets a few hours b4 the show. very cool.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel