Stevie - Dark Matter Single #4 on Tuesday

syzygy523
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Not sure what rabbit hole led me to the Dark Matter Wikipedia page today, but I noticed Waiting for Stevie is now listed on it as its 4th single to be released this Tuesday?

Maybe something fun for whatever gets announced on the 10th of this month.


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  • syzygy523
    syzygy523 Posts: 82

  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,759
    Cool
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  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,759
    dwjmu84 said:
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

    Probably the same thing. Running wasn't really pushed though. Wreckage was really the 2nd single. Running is good for radio because it's short and punchy
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  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    igotid88 said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

    Probably the same thing. Running wasn't really pushed though. Wreckage was really the 2nd single. Running is good for radio because it's short and punchy
    It wasn’t pushed through bc it doesn’t have wide appeal. I love it for what it is, but my guess is the fair weather pj fan would much prefer Stevie. I contend Stevie would have caught fire on radio. Running did not.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,759
    dwjmu84 said:
    igotid88 said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

    Probably the same thing. Running wasn't really pushed though. Wreckage was really the 2nd single. Running is good for radio because it's short and punchy
    It wasn’t pushed through bc it doesn’t have wide appeal. I love it for what it is, but my guess is the fair weather pj fan would much prefer Stevie. I contend Stevie would have caught fire on radio. Running did not.
    Why would it not? It's short and catchy. Nice little solo. 
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,308
    syzygy523 said:


    Thanks!!
  • Falling Down
    Falling Down Posts: 845
    dwjmu84 said:
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

    Interesting thought for sure

    Imagine if Hail Hail had been #1 and Present Tense #2…

    and Who You Are was left for the #9 slot. 

    Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11
    Toronto 03, 06, 11
    Ottawa 05, 11
    Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
    Albany 06; Honolulu 06; Hartford 08
    Costa Rica 11
    London (Ont.), Hartford 13
    Quebec, Fenway 1 + 2 16; London 18
    EV Montreal (2), Berkeley II, Albany, Boston, London (UK)

  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,759
    Falling Down said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

    Interesting thought for sure

    Imagine if Hail Hail had been #1 and Present Tense #2…

    and Who You Are was left for the #9 slot. 
    He's talking about single releases not track order
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  • Imcoffeegirl
    Imcoffeegirl Posts: 384
    Awesome! I love this song so much ❤️
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Just because Wikipedia says "Running" was a single, it doesn't make it so. "Running" was not serviced to radio. Think of "Running" as the modern-day equivalent of a B-side to the "Dark Matter" single.
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,049
    igotid88 said:
    Falling Down said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

    Interesting thought for sure

    Imagine if Hail Hail had been #1 and Present Tense #2…

    and Who You Are was left for the #9 slot. 
    He's talking about single releases not track order
    Who You Are was the first single dropped from No Code.  He’s implying that the album would have been bigger if they released Hail, Hail as the first single.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    As on2legs knows, they didn't want No Code to be bigger and chose that single deliberately to undercut the album's popularity. In a world where No Code approaches the levels of popularity of its predecessor albums, the band may have imploded and we'd all be on some other message board right now.
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  • Falling Down
    Falling Down Posts: 845
    igotid88 said:
    Falling Down said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

    Interesting thought for sure

    Imagine if Hail Hail had been #1 and Present Tense #2…

    and Who You Are was left for the #9 slot. 
    He's talking about single releases not track order
    That’s what I meant too. Who you are shouldn’t have been the first single out of No Code. 

    Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11
    Toronto 03, 06, 11
    Ottawa 05, 11
    Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
    Albany 06; Honolulu 06; Hartford 08
    Costa Rica 11
    London (Ont.), Hartford 13
    Quebec, Fenway 1 + 2 16; London 18
    EV Montreal (2), Berkeley II, Albany, Boston, London (UK)

  • Falling Down
    Falling Down Posts: 845
    But I understand why they did it. 

    Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11
    Toronto 03, 06, 11
    Ottawa 05, 11
    Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
    Albany 06; Honolulu 06; Hartford 08
    Costa Rica 11
    London (Ont.), Hartford 13
    Quebec, Fenway 1 + 2 16; London 18
    EV Montreal (2), Berkeley II, Albany, Boston, London (UK)

  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,759
    on2legs said:
    igotid88 said:
    Falling Down said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

    Interesting thought for sure

    Imagine if Hail Hail had been #1 and Present Tense #2…

    and Who You Are was left for the #9 slot. 
    He's talking about single releases not track order
    Who You Are was the first single dropped from No Code.  He’s implying that the album would have been bigger if they released Hail, Hail as the first single.  
    I know
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,308
    Imcoffeegirl said:
    Awesome! I love this song so much ❤️

    I as well. Hope they break it out tonight in Philly. 
  • ceska
    ceska New York Posts: 1,138
    igotid88 said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    igotid88 said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

    Probably the same thing. Running wasn't really pushed though. Wreckage was really the 2nd single. Running is good for radio because it's short and punchy
    It wasn’t pushed through bc it doesn’t have wide appeal. I love it for what it is, but my guess is the fair weather pj fan would much prefer Stevie. I contend Stevie would have caught fire on radio. Running did not.
    Why would it not? It's short and catchy. Nice little solo. 

    Vocally it is modern-day Word Salad Ed and is not sing-alongable. Stevie is classic Ed vocal style and is easier to mimic. That's what appeals to the masses. But otherwise, yes, Running does have nice riffs. Just wish it had better lyrics.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,308
    Pearl Jam - Waiting For Stevie (Radio Edit)
    24-bit/48kHz
  • BF25394
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    ceska said:
    igotid88 said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    igotid88 said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Imagine if Stevie had been #2….

    and Running was left for the 4 slot.

    Probably the same thing. Running wasn't really pushed though. Wreckage was really the 2nd single. Running is good for radio because it's short and punchy
    It wasn’t pushed through bc it doesn’t have wide appeal. I love it for what it is, but my guess is the fair weather pj fan would much prefer Stevie. I contend Stevie would have caught fire on radio. Running did not.
    Why would it not? It's short and catchy. Nice little solo. 

    Vocally it is modern-day Word Salad Ed and is not sing-alongable. Stevie is classic Ed vocal style and is easier to mimic. That's what appeals to the masses. But otherwise, yes, Running does have nice riffs. Just wish it had better lyrics.
    The vocals in "Waiting for Stevie" are slurry and strained, and it has no chorus and is not easy to sing along with. This is not what appeals to "the masses" in 2024. Pearl Jam reached as broad of an audience as it can reasonable reach in 2024 with "Wreckage"-- number one at rock, alternative and Triple-A-- and "Stevie" has less broad appeal than "Wreckage." To be clear, this is not about which song is "better." It's not about individual fans' subjective feeling that "Stevie" rocks and "Wreckage" sucks. If you're a rock band and you want to reach the broadest audience, midtempo ballads will always penetrate more than riff-based rockers. Even Pearl Jam proves this. "Better Man" reached a much bigger audience than "Even Flow." Hell, their biggest hit was "Last Kiss."
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