America's Gun Violence #2

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    the democrats are going to get fucking played on these gun law negotiations. just watch.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    NY laws being introduced.

    Red Flag laws expanding.
    Microstamping bullets.
    No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
    Social Media has to police their platforms more.  (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
    Body armor illegal for non LE.
    Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
    High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
    Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
    Expanding shared information between agencies.
    Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    NY laws being introduced.

    Red Flag laws expanding.
    Microstamping bullets.
    No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
    Social Media has to police their platforms more.  (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
    Body armor illegal for non LE.
    Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
    High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
    Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
    Expanding shared information between agencies.
    Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

    I hope they pass and lead the way to more states doing the same.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    Grooming...


    I'm surprised the dog is not being tutored as well. ONLY IN 'MERICA. 

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  • joseph33
    joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,341
    joseph33 said:
    mace1229 said:
    the problem with not seizing them means all those guns are still in circulation. all the regulation and registration won't change the fact that a certain percentage of gun owner simply do not adequately secure their firearms away from people who shouldn't have them. 

    a mandatory buyback program coupled with a hefty jail sentence for anyone who is non compliant would do wonders. 
    I would say a voluntary buyback program and required registration...maybe even a program where you have to let the police verify the weapon is still in your possession every few years.
    I'd be interested to know what percentage of gun owners in america would voluntarily sell back their gun. I'd say in the zero point something to zero point something but slightly higher range. 

    the propaganda associated with a buyback, mandatory or voluntary, by the right wing media would be like something none of us had ever seen. so I don't think that's ever going to happen. I think Biden et al are going to try to ban "assault style" rifles like Clinton did. But he'll grandfather in current owners and require registration, which will do absolutely nothing. And it will fail anyway. I'm sure even a few democrats would vote against it. 
    At market rates a lot. Above market rates even more.
    giving out a 20 dollar gift card per gun, not a lot.

    At the end of the day it’s about incentives 


    isn't "freedum from tyranny" the biggest incentive of them all amongst this crowd? or I suppose I'm overestimating the amount of nut jobs in the gun owner group. 
    They may not sell all their guns, but they might get rid of half of them if it’s enough money.

    I agree a buyback program is probably less effective among single gun owners 
    That’s exactly what I would do if it was retail value. It’s too much of a hassle and expensive to sell a gun privately, so I end up keeping some I will probably never use. If I got fair market I’d sell them.
    So up to $10.00 and waiting up to 30 days for a CBI check to come back on the buyer is “too much of a hassle and expensive?”
    I support and will defend the 2nd Amendment,given said that. I as a law abiding citizen can wait 30 days. I do not need high capacity magazines to protect myself and family. I don't plan to go toe to toe with my government with military grade hardware. There NEEDS to be common sense gun laws for this insanity to stop.
    So I’ll ask you, if you can’t possess an assault rifle to defend yourself, are you unable to defend yourself and do you believe that your 2A rights will have been taken away?


    I wrote a lengthy response to your question,and stopped myself. I realized that a healthy conversation between strangers sharing different opinions no longer matter anymore. To engage in one will just lead into negativity and insults.
  • Gern Blansten
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    When you’re a very serious person who takes their job just as seriously: 


  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    When you’re a very serious person who takes their job just as seriously: 


    ......And somehow we supposed to convince politicians like this to do SOMETHING. Yeah Right, unbelievable. 

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited June 2022
    g under p said:
    When you’re a very serious person who takes their job just as seriously: 


    ......And somehow we supposed to convince politicians like this to do SOMETHING. Yeah Right, unbelievable. 

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    Well, to be faaaaaaaiirrrr, Hunter (and his wife) have broken a few gun laws that are on the books. Of course, I don't see why investigating/prosecuting him (them) should hold up passing any new laws--that is, unless Johnson is suggesting a quid pro quo: Give us Hunter, and we'll consider your silly gun reform bill.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    edited June 2022
    A must watch but have tissues nearby...

    https://youtu.be/cJOw0XUyTQs
    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    brianlux said:
    NY laws being introduced.

    Red Flag laws expanding.
    Microstamping bullets.
    No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
    Social Media has to police their platforms more.  (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
    Body armor illegal for non LE.
    Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
    High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
    Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
    Expanding shared information between agencies.
    Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

    I hope they pass and lead the way to more states doing the same.
    my bet is anything that passes at state level gets overturned by the supreme court. just sayin.

    it is imperative that biden expands the court. but he is a coward, so he won't.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    people need military type weapons to shoot varmints? who knew?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    When you’re a very serious person who takes their job just as seriously: 


    "and while we are at it, let's do another benghazi investigation."
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    A must watch but have tissues nearby...

    https://youtu.be/cJOw0XUyTQs

    So incredibly moving. He did a great job.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    Too bad it wasn’t a knife, bat, stick or a lamp the kid went for. More guns are needed.

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    edited June 2022
    I know he is an actor but I believed that was totally from the heart.  This might be the most inspiring talk from Washington since Obama.  

    Edit:  Just finished.  Reporters really took that all to heart by just all yelling out questions at once.  
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    I know he is an actor but I believed that was totally from the heart.  This might be the most inspiring talk from Washington since Obama.  

    Edit:  Just finished.  Reporters really took that all to heart by just all yelling out questions at once.  
    i love the asshole from newsmax who yelled and asked him if he was grandstanding. forgot the reporter's name. probably because it is not worth remembering.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    Too bad it wasn’t a knife, bat, stick or a lamp the kid went for. More guns are needed.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/07/us/florida-mother-son-shoots-father/index.html

    damn shame she isnt white. no charges then.  
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    brianlux said:
    NY laws being introduced.

    Red Flag laws expanding.
    Microstamping bullets.
    No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
    Social Media has to police their platforms more.  (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
    Body armor illegal for non LE.
    Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
    High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
    Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
    Expanding shared information between agencies.
    Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

    I hope they pass and lead the way to more states doing the same.
    my bet is anything that passes at state level gets overturned by the supreme court. just sayin.

    it is imperative that biden expands the court. but he is a coward, so he won't.
    You want to restructure the courts to rule in your favor?  Really?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    brianlux said:
    NY laws being introduced.

    Red Flag laws expanding.
    Microstamping bullets.
    No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
    Social Media has to police their platforms more.  (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
    Body armor illegal for non LE.
    Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
    High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
    Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
    Expanding shared information between agencies.
    Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

    I hope they pass and lead the way to more states doing the same.
    my bet is anything that passes at state level gets overturned by the supreme court. just sayin.

    it is imperative that biden expands the court. but he is a coward, so he won't.
    You want to restructure the courts to rule in your favor?  Really?
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