America's Gun Violence #2

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited May 2022
    These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose.  Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???

    I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.

    Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing.  Great family.


    Crazy, gun toting, white supremacist's aside, you're neighborhood looks pretty awesome. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    tbergs said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    well I sure hope that if any legislation is made that they care about "semantics". 

    it's less semantics and more clarification for the purposes of discussion. not sure what the problem is with that. 
    We're people on a god damned pearl jam message board. Pretty sure a bill would label things correctly. LOL


    I know. You're not getting my point. 

    For those who want to discuss the fine points of gun legislation, the details would be important, for sure. 
    I guess you could say my perspective is more general.   From my way of looking at it, the finer details are not so important-  I just want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.
    I should probably steer clear of the more technical discussions here.
    I don’t understand that perspective. If you’re passionate and want to see change, and I believe you do, why would you not care about technical discussions. Wouldn’t you want to be informed so when a law does pass you can voice your more educated opinion of why it’s a good or crap law?
    I mentioned a few times a fixed magazine. I haven’t pointed out that the definition of a fixed magazine is stupid. It’s fixed if it requires a “tool” to remove. A tool could be the point of a pen, or more commonly the tip of a bullet. So they make the button too small for a finger, but the tip of a bullet fits and now it’s considered a fixed magazine, even though it can still be released in about 1.2 seconds. I would think that’s worth knowing for anyone who wants to see new laws.
    So not only do we need to require fixed magazines, we need to redefine what that is.

    I think I was pretty clear about what I'd like to see happen, but I'll say it again:

    I want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.

    I see no reason to add any further technical details to that.  You either agree, or not.


    Brian, you have to specifically name the model and features of the types of firearms you'd like kept out of Civilian hands. I can't agree with you otherwise. Oh, please also list the manufacturer and part numbers. I just want to make sure that you don't try to limit my rights when trying to ban guns I may want to use when my buddies and I want to have a get together at the range and fire off a few hundred rounds when we celebrate our freedom this July 4th. Thanks!
    Cool. This is why nothing changes though. People offer real solutions and you just make fun of their input, congrats on being part of the problem.
    No one expected Brian to name anything. Just adding to the discussion of what should be done. But this is the result when the “other side” joins the conversation, so they rarely do.
    Oh boy, if this isn't rich. Look, I'm sure you're sincere in your approach here, but let's drop the BS that this is why nothing happens or this is the result when the other side joins the conversation. If the other side, and by that I mean the less than 20% of this country who value guns and the archaic meaning of 2A more than the life of innocent people, gave a shit, then they would at least be demanding universal background checks and waiting periods for all gun purchases under any circumstance because they want to end the stigma of what it means to own guns in this country. You can float this self righteous crap all you want, but the truth of the matter is that gun rights advocates want to continue to blame all the mass shootings and any shootings on "mental illness" and criminals. They like to use catch phrases and deflect, but once a few weeks have passed they go back to doing nothing about either mental illness or gun control and people keep voting for their dumbasses because, you know, the other side is going to take all your guns away. I wonder if any of you (figuratively speaking) would ever change your mind if it was your child lying in a pool of blood in their 3rd grade classroom or your child talking about how they saw their best friend gunned down. Hopefully it never comes to that because no one should ever have to suffer that trauma.

    I'll keep waiting on that NRA funded GOP senator or congress person to reach across the aisle and introduce any new legislation to help prevent gun violence...
    Or vote on HB8. Go ahead, pick apart HB8 for the “semantics.” And once us reasonable gun safety advocates learn the vernacular and can discuss firearms at their level of superior intellectual knowledge, they’ll claim, “see, now your advocating for a ban and that’s a slippery slope to gubmint seizing all guns from law abiding citizens.” Now pass me my clip.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    tbergs said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    well I sure hope that if any legislation is made that they care about "semantics". 

    it's less semantics and more clarification for the purposes of discussion. not sure what the problem is with that. 
    We're people on a god damned pearl jam message board. Pretty sure a bill would label things correctly. LOL


    I know. You're not getting my point. 

    For those who want to discuss the fine points of gun legislation, the details would be important, for sure. 
    I guess you could say my perspective is more general.   From my way of looking at it, the finer details are not so important-  I just want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.
    I should probably steer clear of the more technical discussions here.
    I don’t understand that perspective. If you’re passionate and want to see change, and I believe you do, why would you not care about technical discussions. Wouldn’t you want to be informed so when a law does pass you can voice your more educated opinion of why it’s a good or crap law?
    I mentioned a few times a fixed magazine. I haven’t pointed out that the definition of a fixed magazine is stupid. It’s fixed if it requires a “tool” to remove. A tool could be the point of a pen, or more commonly the tip of a bullet. So they make the button too small for a finger, but the tip of a bullet fits and now it’s considered a fixed magazine, even though it can still be released in about 1.2 seconds. I would think that’s worth knowing for anyone who wants to see new laws.
    So not only do we need to require fixed magazines, we need to redefine what that is.

    I think I was pretty clear about what I'd like to see happen, but I'll say it again:

    I want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.

    I see no reason to add any further technical details to that.  You either agree, or not.


    Brian, you have to specifically name the model and features of the types of firearms you'd like kept out of Civilian hands. I can't agree with you otherwise. Oh, please also list the manufacturer and part numbers. I just want to make sure that you don't try to limit my rights when trying to ban guns I may want to use when my buddies and I want to have a get together at the range and fire off a few hundred rounds when we celebrate our freedom this July 4th. Thanks!
    Cool. This is why nothing changes though. People offer real solutions and you just make fun of their input, congrats on being part of the problem.
    No one expected Brian to name anything. Just adding to the discussion of what should be done. But this is the result when the “other side” joins the conversation, so they rarely do.
    Oh boy, if this isn't rich. Look, I'm sure you're sincere in your approach here, but let's drop the BS that this is why nothing happens or this is the result when the other side joins the conversation. If the other side, and by that I mean the less than 20% of this country who value guns and the archaic meaning of 2A more than the life of innocent people, gave a shit, then they would at least be demanding universal background checks and waiting periods for all gun purchases under any circumstance because they want to end the stigma of what it means to own guns in this country. You can float this self righteous crap all you want, but the truth of the matter is that gun rights advocates want to continue to blame all the mass shootings and any shootings on "mental illness" and criminals. They like to use catch phrases and deflect, but once a few weeks have passed they go back to doing nothing about either mental illness or gun control and people keep voting for their dumbasses because, you know, the other side is going to take all your guns away. I wonder if any of you (figuratively speaking) would ever change your mind if it was your child lying in a pool of blood in their 3rd grade classroom or your child talking about how they saw their best friend gunned down. Hopefully it never comes to that because no one should ever have to suffer that trauma.

    I'll keep waiting on that NRA funded GOP senator or congress person to reach across the aisle and introduce any new legislation to help prevent gun violence...


    This is exactly why democrats are lost and will lose again. They need to stop talking to Republican senators and reps and start talking to the American people. Republicans will do nothing about these repeated deaths and complaining about their inaction is a waste of time. Make that case to voters right now, not in September when everyone forgets this tragedy.

    ”this November, if you want to do something about these needless deaths, vote for democrats. If you don’t, this will continue.”
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    tbergs said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    well I sure hope that if any legislation is made that they care about "semantics". 

    it's less semantics and more clarification for the purposes of discussion. not sure what the problem is with that. 
    We're people on a god damned pearl jam message board. Pretty sure a bill would label things correctly. LOL


    I know. You're not getting my point. 

    For those who want to discuss the fine points of gun legislation, the details would be important, for sure. 
    I guess you could say my perspective is more general.   From my way of looking at it, the finer details are not so important-  I just want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.
    I should probably steer clear of the more technical discussions here.
    I don’t understand that perspective. If you’re passionate and want to see change, and I believe you do, why would you not care about technical discussions. Wouldn’t you want to be informed so when a law does pass you can voice your more educated opinion of why it’s a good or crap law?
    I mentioned a few times a fixed magazine. I haven’t pointed out that the definition of a fixed magazine is stupid. It’s fixed if it requires a “tool” to remove. A tool could be the point of a pen, or more commonly the tip of a bullet. So they make the button too small for a finger, but the tip of a bullet fits and now it’s considered a fixed magazine, even though it can still be released in about 1.2 seconds. I would think that’s worth knowing for anyone who wants to see new laws.
    So not only do we need to require fixed magazines, we need to redefine what that is.

    I think I was pretty clear about what I'd like to see happen, but I'll say it again:

    I want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.

    I see no reason to add any further technical details to that.  You either agree, or not.


    Brian, you have to specifically name the model and features of the types of firearms you'd like kept out of Civilian hands. I can't agree with you otherwise. Oh, please also list the manufacturer and part numbers. I just want to make sure that you don't try to limit my rights when trying to ban guns I may want to use when my buddies and I want to have a get together at the range and fire off a few hundred rounds when we celebrate our freedom this July 4th. Thanks!
    Cool. This is why nothing changes though. People offer real solutions and you just make fun of their input, congrats on being part of the problem.
    No one expected Brian to name anything. Just adding to the discussion of what should be done. But this is the result when the “other side” joins the conversation, so they rarely do.
    Oh boy, if this isn't rich. Look, I'm sure you're sincere in your approach here, but let's drop the BS that this is why nothing happens or this is the result when the other side joins the conversation. If the other side, and by that I mean the less than 20% of this country who value guns and the archaic meaning of 2A more than the life of innocent people, gave a shit, then they would at least be demanding universal background checks and waiting periods for all gun purchases under any circumstance because they want to end the stigma of what it means to own guns in this country. You can float this self righteous crap all you want, but the truth of the matter is that gun rights advocates want to continue to blame all the mass shootings and any shootings on "mental illness" and criminals. They like to use catch phrases and deflect, but once a few weeks have passed they go back to doing nothing about either mental illness or gun control and people keep voting for their dumbasses because, you know, the other side is going to take all your guns away. I wonder if any of you (figuratively speaking) would ever change your mind if it was your child lying in a pool of blood in their 3rd grade classroom or your child talking about how they saw their best friend gunned down. Hopefully it never comes to that because no one should ever have to suffer that trauma.

    I'll keep waiting on that NRA funded GOP senator or congress person to reach across the aisle and introduce any new legislation to help prevent gun violence...
    Damn straight it would matter.  Not only would it matter but they’d lead the crusade against guns.  

    You are absolutely correct in your responses above and I seriously can’t tell you in words how much I appreciate them.  This semantics issue is just the latest bullshit in a whole list of excuses for justifying that they care more about their guns then children’s lives.  
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    Poncier said:
    Any man who still supports a pos that spoke harshly about his wife’s physical features should have his testicles crushed by said wife.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,142
    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    tbergs said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    well I sure hope that if any legislation is made that they care about "semantics". 

    it's less semantics and more clarification for the purposes of discussion. not sure what the problem is with that. 
    We're people on a god damned pearl jam message board. Pretty sure a bill would label things correctly. LOL


    I know. You're not getting my point. 

    For those who want to discuss the fine points of gun legislation, the details would be important, for sure. 
    I guess you could say my perspective is more general.   From my way of looking at it, the finer details are not so important-  I just want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.
    I should probably steer clear of the more technical discussions here.
    I don’t understand that perspective. If you’re passionate and want to see change, and I believe you do, why would you not care about technical discussions. Wouldn’t you want to be informed so when a law does pass you can voice your more educated opinion of why it’s a good or crap law?
    I mentioned a few times a fixed magazine. I haven’t pointed out that the definition of a fixed magazine is stupid. It’s fixed if it requires a “tool” to remove. A tool could be the point of a pen, or more commonly the tip of a bullet. So they make the button too small for a finger, but the tip of a bullet fits and now it’s considered a fixed magazine, even though it can still be released in about 1.2 seconds. I would think that’s worth knowing for anyone who wants to see new laws.
    So not only do we need to require fixed magazines, we need to redefine what that is.

    I think I was pretty clear about what I'd like to see happen, but I'll say it again:

    I want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.

    I see no reason to add any further technical details to that.  You either agree, or not.


    Brian, you have to specifically name the model and features of the types of firearms you'd like kept out of Civilian hands. I can't agree with you otherwise. Oh, please also list the manufacturer and part numbers. I just want to make sure that you don't try to limit my rights when trying to ban guns I may want to use when my buddies and I want to have a get together at the range and fire off a few hundred rounds when we celebrate our freedom this July 4th. Thanks!
    Cool. This is why nothing changes though. People offer real solutions and you just make fun of their input, congrats on being part of the problem.
    No one expected Brian to name anything. Just adding to the discussion of what should be done. But this is the result when the “other side” joins the conversation, so they rarely do.
    Oh boy, if this isn't rich. Look, I'm sure you're sincere in your approach here, but let's drop the BS that this is why nothing happens or this is the result when the other side joins the conversation. If the other side, and by that I mean the less than 20% of this country who value guns and the archaic meaning of 2A more than the life of innocent people, gave a shit, then they would at least be demanding universal background checks and waiting periods for all gun purchases under any circumstance because they want to end the stigma of what it means to own guns in this country. You can float this self righteous crap all you want, but the truth of the matter is that gun rights advocates want to continue to blame all the mass shootings and any shootings on "mental illness" and criminals. They like to use catch phrases and deflect, but once a few weeks have passed they go back to doing nothing about either mental illness or gun control and people keep voting for their dumbasses because, you know, the other side is going to take all your guns away. I wonder if any of you (figuratively speaking) would ever change your mind if it was your child lying in a pool of blood in their 3rd grade classroom or your child talking about how they saw their best friend gunned down. Hopefully it never comes to that because no one should ever have to suffer that trauma.

    I'll keep waiting on that NRA funded GOP senator or congress person to reach across the aisle and introduce any new legislation to help prevent gun violence...
    Damn straight it would matter.  Not only would it matter but they’d lead the crusade against guns.  

    You are absolutely correct in your responses above and I seriously can’t tell you in words how much I appreciate them.  This semantics issue is just the latest bullshit in a whole list of excuses for justifying that they care more about their guns then children’s lives.  
    I tend to believe that if it happened to them, they’d claim it was god’s will and that their child is a martyr for 2A and is with Jesus and his AR.
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  • The Juggler
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    Poncier said:
    Kudos to those journalists for exposing him. It is easy to do when you simply don't let them bloviate on and on. The media in our country could learn a thing or two from them. 
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    I recommend watching "Moment of Silence," episode two of The Premise, an anthology series created by BJ Novak on Hulu.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    if you want change, you have to know what change it is you want. 

    some of you keep hammering on the "semantics" issue. Sure, it's disingenuous from most on the gun toting side. I don't see it that way from mace. But I guess it's easier to pile on then to have an honest dialogue. 
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  • bootlegger10
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    These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose.  Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???

    I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.

    Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing.  Great family.


    Crazy, gun toting, white supremacist's aside, you're neighborhood looks pretty awesome. 
     One thing that bugs me is how angry these people probably are.  They have a nice house on a lake, a family, probably a good job, and they have so much anger inside them because they think the government is suppressing them.
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    JojoRice said:
    I live in Kennesaw, GA and we have a law that requires every homeowner to have a gun. Granted it's not enforced. 
    You gotta move
    Why?  We have one of the lowest crime rates in the country.  I own 2 guns myself. 
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  • The Juggler
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    JojoRice said:
    JojoRice said:
    I live in Kennesaw, GA and we have a law that requires every homeowner to have a gun. Granted it's not enforced. 
    You gotta move
    Why?  We have one of the lowest crime rates in the country.  I own 2 guns myself. 
    Because it's an utterly ridiculous law. Plus I was kidding. 
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  • Gern Blansten
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    These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose.  Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???

    I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.

    Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing.  Great family.


    Crazy, gun toting, white supremacist's aside, you're neighborhood looks pretty awesome. 
     One thing that bugs me is how angry these people probably are.  They have a nice house on a lake, a family, probably a good job, and they have so much anger inside them because they think the government is suppressing them.
    Yeah and why haven't they bailed their daughter out of jail?  Tough love I guess? I get letting her sit in there a night or two but a month?

    I don't know the entire story though. Maybe she needs it? But yeah....fucking crazy to put up signs like that in our neighborhood.
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  • cblock4life
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    if you want change, you have to know what change it is you want. 

    some of you keep hammering on the "semantics" issue. Sure, it's disingenuous from most on the gun toting side. I don't see it that way from mace. But I guess it's easier to pile on then to have an honest dialogue. 
    I’m confused about a few things….first it was necessary to include semantics yesterday when you posted, then you watched the video and said fuck semantics, now today you’re ok with semantics when it’s mace.  Sorry, there aren’t levels to this anymore.  Either you’re not ok with guns or you are.  A gun, is a gun, is a gun, no matter what fucking kind it is.  

    People have listened for years and years to the same “semantics “ and might I add most patiently and mature.  
    Times up. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose.  Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???

    I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.

    Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing.  Great family.


    Crazy, gun toting, white supremacist's aside, you're neighborhood looks pretty awesome. 
     One thing that bugs me is how angry these people probably are.  They have a nice house on a lake, a family, probably a good job, and they have so much anger inside them because they think the government is suppressing them.
    Anger is really in right now.  MAGA is very angry. I'm not sure why and I'm not sure they really know why. Well, I think I know "why" (pundits pedal it and they lap it up) but not really "about what." 

    Anecdotally, most of the anger I see is from people that don't really have anything be be angry about. Sometimes, whether you're anger is misplaced or not, you need to enjoy yourself. These people get to do it on a boat...
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  • Gern Blansten
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    OnWis97 said:
    These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose.  Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???

    I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.

    Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing.  Great family.


    Crazy, gun toting, white supremacist's aside, you're neighborhood looks pretty awesome. 
     One thing that bugs me is how angry these people probably are.  They have a nice house on a lake, a family, probably a good job, and they have so much anger inside them because they think the government is suppressing them.
    Anger is really in right now.  MAGA is very angry. I'm not sure why and I'm not sure they really know why. Well, I think I know "why" (pundits pedal it and they lap it up) but not really "about what." 

    Anecdotally, most of the anger I see is from people that don't really have anything be be angry about. Sometimes, whether you're anger is misplaced or not, you need to enjoy yourself. These people get to do it on a boat...
    I was talking about the job market with a client yesterday and they immediately brought up that people don't need to work because of the stimulus payments. That's being pushed by right wing media now.
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  • cblock4life
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    Here’s some semantics for you, are all guns capable of killing when the trigger is pulled?  Yea, that’s what I thought. 
  • Poncier
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    These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose.  Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???

    I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.

    Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing.  Great family.


    Crazy, gun toting, white supremacist's aside, you're neighborhood looks pretty awesome. 
     One thing that bugs me is how angry these people probably are.  They have a nice house on a lake, a family, probably a good job, and they have so much anger inside them because they think the government is suppressing them.
    Yeah it amazes me that some folks with so much are still so angry and also unwilling to allow others to have opportunities to be heard or better themselves. Like the douchenozzle couple in St Louis who stood outside their house with their guns as protesters simply walked by. Such shallow human beings.



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