It's almost like some people are heavily invested in the belief that guns aren't the problem in the only developed country that this happens in every day...
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no no no. these are all isolated incidents. no connection what so ever. so stop with your math and shit. we have preborn babies to protect. those born can fend for themselves.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
It's almost like some people are heavily invested in the belief that guns aren't the problem in the only developed country that this happens in every day...
To compare the US to other developed countries is a bit unfair. We are a nation founded by a violent overthrow and our founders deemed it necessary to indoctrinate guns as a national right for everyone. Some may believe 2A was intended for national defense, because in the 1700s, the militia, as referred to in 2A, was essentially our defense against our British overlord oppressors. These are steps other English speaking “nations” were not willing to take.
Since Scalia memorialized 2A by essentially whiting out the “well regulated militia” phrase, America is operating as intended. By Scalia and the folks who bother to show up to vote.
Until there are enough people who believe guns are to blame and vote every year this will be the status quo. Unfortunately folks against guns tend to and start sobbing when BBB can’t get past Manchin and are too upset to vote every year.
Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:
"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that
they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of
American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun
crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."
Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.
My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:
2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone
at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a
restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A
Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and
wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours
later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed
three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper
reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money.
He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police
later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
sentence 1 is not true.
paragraph 2: it did make national, international headlines even. I heard about it almost immediately. It was all over the place.
Paragraph 3: partially correct. yes, the media goes with the most sensationalistic stories. no question. however, they give the public what they want, and that is "the bigger the tragedy, the longer it stays in the news cycle". it has zero to do with the type of gun used. It has everything to do with how many people were injured/killed and who it was. it's obviously going to be seen as a much bigger tragedy if it's a bunch of kids minding their own business trying to learn how to spell. It's a crime that is harder for the general public to understand, hence why it stays around longer.
Please explain?
1-For Brians list it is true. 2-I corrected myself. 3-again this was towards Brians list
If anything the point you're making reinforces the need for stricter gun control. There are simply far too many shootings occurring in the US for people to keep track of.
^^^ This, to me, is the bottom line. We can argue all day and night about what made the news, what is newsworthy, what isn't, etc, but the bottom line is exactly what Merkin wrote here!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
We hear about all these shootings, but just think about all of the ones that don’t happen but easily could if someone said the wrong thing or got into an argument. We are probably surrounded by angry people with guns and don’t know it.
We hear about all these shootings, but just think about all of the ones that don’t happen but easily could if someone said the wrong thing or got into an argument. We are probably surrounded by angry people with guns and don’t know it.
No doubt!
These are happening so often, we could probably post links like this every day in America:
It's almost like some people are heavily invested in the belief that guns aren't the problem in the only developed country that this happens in every day...
To compare the US to other developed countries is a bit unfair. We are a nation founded by a violent overthrow and our founders deemed it necessary to indoctrinate guns as a national right for everyone. Some may believe 2A was intended for national defense, because in the 1700s, the militia, as referred to in 2A, was essentially our defense against our British overlord oppressors. These are steps other English speaking “nations” were not willing to take.
Since Scalia memorialized 2A by essentially whiting out the “well regulated militia” phrase, America is operating as intended. By Scalia and the folks who bother to show up to vote.
Until there are enough people who believe guns are to blame and vote every year this will be the status quo. Unfortunately folks against guns tend to and start sobbing when BBB can’t get past Manchin and are too upset to vote every year.
nearly all nations are founded by some type of violence. the US hasn't had this problem until the last 30 or so years. it's multi-faceted, but I don't buy the "it's in our nation's blood" argument.
It's almost like some people are heavily invested in the belief that guns aren't the problem in the only developed country that this happens in every day...
To compare the US to other developed countries is a bit unfair. We are a nation founded by a violent overthrow and our founders deemed it necessary to indoctrinate guns as a national right for everyone. Some may believe 2A was intended for national defense, because in the 1700s, the militia, as referred to in 2A, was essentially our defense against our British overlord oppressors. These are steps other English speaking “nations” were not willing to take.
Since Scalia memorialized 2A by essentially whiting out the “well regulated militia” phrase, America is operating as intended. By Scalia and the folks who bother to show up to vote.
Until there are enough people who believe guns are to blame and vote every year this will be the status quo. Unfortunately folks against guns tend to and start sobbing when BBB can’t get past Manchin and are too upset to vote every year.
nearly all nations are founded by some type of violence. the US hasn't had this problem until the last 30 or so years. it's multi-faceted, but I don't buy the "it's in our nation's blood" argument.
The other English speaking countries stayed loyal to the crown, which helped shape a civilized culture. Sure there was violence at times, but did guns become a birthright? The US didn’t just have violence, but an immense war to win freedom. With that came a blank slate for culture to evolve. Arming private citizens became part of that culture. Mix that in with slavery, civil rights, immigration. And Al Capone is on line one…
It's almost like some people are heavily invested in the belief that guns aren't the problem in the only developed country that this happens in every day...
To compare the US to other developed countries is a bit unfair. We are a nation founded by a violent overthrow and our founders deemed it necessary to indoctrinate guns as a national right for everyone. Some may believe 2A was intended for national defense, because in the 1700s, the militia, as referred to in 2A, was essentially our defense against our British overlord oppressors. These are steps other English speaking “nations” were not willing to take.
Since Scalia memorialized 2A by essentially whiting out the “well regulated militia” phrase, America is operating as intended. By Scalia and the folks who bother to show up to vote.
Until there are enough people who believe guns are to blame and vote every year this will be the status quo. Unfortunately folks against guns tend to and start sobbing when BBB can’t get past Manchin and are too upset to vote every year.
nearly all nations are founded by some type of violence. the US hasn't had this problem until the last 30 or so years. it's multi-faceted, but I don't buy the "it's in our nation's blood" argument.
The other English speaking countries stayed loyal to the crown, which helped shape a civilized culture. Sure there was violence at times, but did guns become a birthright? The US didn’t just have violence, but an immense war to win freedom. With that came a blank slate for culture to evolve. Arming private citizens became part of that culture. Mix that in with slavery, civil rights, immigration. And Al Capone is on line one…
Guns are the means but my god it is sad how so many murderous people are in the US.
It's almost like some people are heavily invested in the belief that guns aren't the problem in the only developed country that this happens in every day...
To compare the US to other developed countries is a bit unfair. We are a nation founded by a violent overthrow and our founders deemed it necessary to indoctrinate guns as a national right for everyone. Some may believe 2A was intended for national defense, because in the 1700s, the militia, as referred to in 2A, was essentially our defense against our British overlord oppressors. These are steps other English speaking “nations” were not willing to take.
Since Scalia memorialized 2A by essentially whiting out the “well regulated militia” phrase, America is operating as intended. By Scalia and the folks who bother to show up to vote.
Until there are enough people who believe guns are to blame and vote every year this will be the status quo. Unfortunately folks against guns tend to and start sobbing when BBB can’t get past Manchin and are too upset to vote every year.
nearly all nations are founded by some type of violence. the US hasn't had this problem until the last 30 or so years. it's multi-faceted, but I don't buy the "it's in our nation's blood" argument.
The other English speaking countries stayed loyal to the crown, which helped shape a civilized culture. Sure there was violence at times, but did guns become a birthright? The US didn’t just have violence, but an immense war to win freedom. With that came a blank slate for culture to evolve. Arming private citizens became part of that culture. Mix that in with slavery, civil rights, immigration. And Al Capone is on line one…
Guns are the means but my god it is sad how so many murderous people are in the US.
Our culture is build on violence. It's in our movies, our games, some of our music, definitely our TV shows. I recently read Whoopi Goldberg's book, Book. In one of her chapters (she calls them "raps"), she talks about this, describing something I have witnessed- the escalation of violence in our TV shows. She was spot on- and that was written in 1999. It's only gotten worse. We have become more violet. It will not end well.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
It's almost like some people are heavily invested in the belief that guns aren't the problem in the only developed country that this happens in every day...
To compare the US to other developed countries is a bit unfair. We are a nation founded by a violent overthrow and our founders deemed it necessary to indoctrinate guns as a national right for everyone. Some may believe 2A was intended for national defense, because in the 1700s, the militia, as referred to in 2A, was essentially our defense against our British overlord oppressors. These are steps other English speaking “nations” were not willing to take.
Since Scalia memorialized 2A by essentially whiting out the “well regulated militia” phrase, America is operating as intended. By Scalia and the folks who bother to show up to vote.
Until there are enough people who believe guns are to blame and vote every year this will be the status quo. Unfortunately folks against guns tend to and start sobbing when BBB can’t get past Manchin and are too upset to vote every year.
nearly all nations are founded by some type of violence. the US hasn't had this problem until the last 30 or so years. it's multi-faceted, but I don't buy the "it's in our nation's blood" argument.
The other English speaking countries stayed loyal to the crown, which helped shape a civilized culture. Sure there was violence at times, but did guns become a birthright? The US didn’t just have violence, but an immense war to win freedom. With that came a blank slate for culture to evolve. Arming private citizens became part of that culture. Mix that in with slavery, civil rights, immigration. And Al Capone is on line one…
Guns are the means but my god it is sad how so many murderous people are in the US.
Our culture is build on violence. It's in our movies, our games, some of our music, definitely our TV shows. I recently read Whoopi Goldberg's book, Book. In one of her chapters (she calls them "raps"), she talks about this, describing something I have witnessed- the escalation of violence in our TV shows. She was spot on- and that was written in 1999. It's only gotten worse. We have become more violet. It will not end well.
There is a 90's documentary special and it highlights the Jerry Springer show and how the others started to imitate is then on Jenny Jones a person killed someone and it sort of changed after that.
we see just as much violence in entertainment up here as you folks do. our entertainment is basically 85% american. 10% canadian, 5% awful british comedy.
and no one was killed ON jenny jones. it was a few days after the taping.
we see just as much violence in entertainment up here as you folks do. our entertainment is basically 85% american. 10% canadian, 5% awful british comedy.
and no one was killed ON jenny jones. it was a few days after the taping.
What's your take on why there is more violence in the U.S. Is it what H2TM says here (surely a part of it)? Or are we just inherently more prone to violence? I really am not sure.
we see just as much violence in entertainment up here as you folks do. our entertainment is basically 85% american. 10% canadian, 5% awful british comedy.
and no one was killed ON jenny jones. it was a few days after the taping.
What's your take on why there is more violence in the U.S. Is it what H2TM says here (surely a part of it)? Or are we just inherently more prone to violence? I really am not sure.
Any excuse but the relative ease with which firearms are available and accessed. Any.
I think it's a combination of things.
1) access to guns 2) gun culture in the US (buying into the idea that the US was "born of violence" and that the constitution is like the bible) 3) mental health issues
we all have #3. But we don't all have #'s 1 and 2. So yes, I basically agree with Halifax.
Any excuse but the relative ease with which firearms are available and accessed. Any.
Why haven't you killed someone with an AR-15 yet if the gun is the main reason this is happening? Or have you?
We can talk about why so many people are motivated to do what they are doing. Access to an AR-15 is not the cause, but the tool and of course we should ban automatic weapons.
Any excuse but the relative ease with which firearms are available and accessed. Any.
Why haven't you killed someone with an AR-15 yet if the gun is the main reason this is happening? Or have you?
We can talk about why so many people are motivated to do what they are doing. Access to an AR-15 is not the cause, but the tool and of course we should ban automatic weapons.
Because I don't care to spend the rest of my life in prison. Denial is not a river in Egypt. Access to "firearms" and "responsible" gun owners are the cause. It takes a whole other level of effort to stab or beat someone to death, particularly multiple victims.
I'll ask you and see if you can answer, seeing how others on here either can't or are afraid to, if AR15s and other semi-automatic assault rifles (firearms made to kill people as efficiently as possible) are banned, would you be unable to defend yourself and would you consider your 2A to be violated?
AR15's aren't the cause. anymore than a car is the cause of someone speeding. it's the tool that allows the capability, but it's not the cause. your computer isn't the cause of you saying stupid things online. lol
Any excuse but the relative ease with which firearms are available and accessed. Any.
Why haven't you killed someone with an AR-15 yet if the gun is the main reason this is happening? Or have you?
We can talk about why so many people are motivated to do what they are doing. Access to an AR-15 is not the cause, but the tool and of course we should ban automatic weapons.
Because I don't care to spend the rest of my life in prison. Denial is not a river in Egypt. Access to "firearms" and "responsible" gun owners are the cause. It takes a whole other level of effort to stab or beat someone to death, particularly multiple victims.
I'll ask you and see if you can answer, seeing how others on here either can't or are afraid to, if AR15s and other semi-automatic assault rifles (firearms made to kill people as efficiently as possible) are banned, would you be unable to defend yourself and would you consider your 2A to be violated?
I don’t own a gun. I am not a legal expert so I can’t answer if my rights are violated but personally I would not feel my rights are violated. I shouldn’t have the right to own a weapon that can kill that many people in seconds.
AR15's aren't the cause. anymore than a car is the cause of someone speeding. it's the tool that allows the capability, but it's not the cause. your computer isn't the cause of you saying stupid things online. lol
How many people who have ready access to firearms would stab or beat someone in a fit of anger or revenge, jealousy, frustration, etc.? Way fewer than what we see with guns laying around.
I don't just say stupid things on the interwebs but people shoot people because they're wimps and would never throw a punch or stab someone, never mind 10-15 people at a turn. Firearms make killing much less personal, intimate and a hell of a lot easier.
Easier to speed in a Prius or Honda Fit or Porsche?
AR15's aren't the cause. anymore than a car is the cause of someone speeding. it's the tool that allows the capability, but it's not the cause. your computer isn't the cause of you saying stupid things online. lol
How many people who have ready access to firearms would stab or beat someone in a fit of anger or revenge, jealousy, frustration, etc.? Way fewer than what we see with guns laying around.
I don't just say stupid things on the interwebs but people shoot people because they're wimps and would never throw a punch or stab someone, never mind 10-15 people at a turn. Firearms make killing much less personal, intimate and a hell of a lot easier.
Easier to speed in a Prius or Honda Fit or Porsche?
you take these guns out of the hands of nutjobs and yes, the mass shootings would stop. But that still doesn't mean the gun is the "cause". it's the tool used to get to the effect.
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no no no. these are all isolated incidents. no connection what so ever. so stop with your math and shit. we have preborn babies to protect. those born can fend for themselves.
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Since Scalia memorialized 2A by essentially whiting out the “well regulated militia” phrase, America is operating as intended. By Scalia and the folks who bother to show up to vote.
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Our culture is build on violence. It's in our movies, our games, some of our music, definitely our TV shows. I recently read Whoopi Goldberg's book, Book. In one of her chapters (she calls them "raps"), she talks about this, describing something I have witnessed- the escalation of violence in our TV shows. She was spot on- and that was written in 1999. It's only gotten worse. We have become more violet. It will not end well.
and no one was killed ON jenny jones. it was a few days after the taping.
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Is it what H2TM says here (surely a part of it)? Or are we just inherently more prone to violence? I really am not sure.
1) access to guns
2) gun culture in the US (buying into the idea that the US was "born of violence" and that the constitution is like the bible)
3) mental health issues
we all have #3. But we don't all have #'s 1 and 2. So yes, I basically agree with Halifax.
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We can talk about why so many people are motivated to do what they are doing. Access to an AR-15 is not the cause, but the tool and of course we should ban automatic weapons.
I'll ask you and see if you can answer, seeing how others on here either can't or are afraid to, if AR15s and other semi-automatic assault rifles (firearms made to kill people as efficiently as possible) are banned, would you be unable to defend yourself and would you consider your 2A to be violated?
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I don't just say stupid things on the interwebs but people shoot people because they're wimps and would never throw a punch or stab someone, never mind 10-15 people at a turn. Firearms make killing much less personal, intimate and a hell of a lot easier.
Easier to speed in a Prius or Honda Fit or Porsche?
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