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  • May 30th
    May 30th Posts: 1,888
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY - Proud South Canadian. Posts: 801
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
    My brother & friends & I have been talking about Joker all day. As great as he is, I can't put him higher than 6th all-time for centers:

    Kareem
    Wilt
    Russell
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    But yeah that stat line is unreal.
    May your days be long, til kingdom come.
  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY - Proud South Canadian. Posts: 801
    Big game tonight, my Lakers and the champs. Not expecting a win, but also wouldn't be shocked. This has been a wild season for L.A. so far. I'm still in shock over the Luka trade.
    May your days be long, til kingdom come.
  • May 30th
    May 30th Posts: 1,888
    We All Believe said:
    Big game tonight, my Lakers and the champs. Not expecting a win, but also wouldn't be shocked. This has been a wild season for L.A. so far. I'm still in shock over the Luka trade.
    I just hope it’s a competitive game. I could see Boston running away with it early if the lakers don’t show up 
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,943
    We All Believe said:
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
    My brother & friends & I have been talking about Joker all day. As great as he is, I can't put him higher than 6th all-time for centers:

    Kareem
    Wilt
    Russell
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    But yeah that stat line is unreal.
    He is smarter than anyone in your list, the way he reads the game is unique!!
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,165
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!

    that's a crazy stat!
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,240
    We All Believe said:
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
    My brother & friends & I have been talking about Joker all day. As great as he is, I can't put him higher than 6th all-time for centers:

    Kareem
    Wilt
    Russell
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    But yeah that stat line is unreal.
    interesting discussion, but one I am not really qualified to join. I will say Jokic is a bit of a unicorn.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    23scidoo said:
    We All Believe said:
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
    My brother & friends & I have been talking about Joker all day. As great as he is, I can't put him higher than 6th all-time for centers:

    Kareem
    Wilt
    Russell
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    But yeah that stat line is unreal.
    He is smarter than anyone in your list, the way he reads the game is unique!!
    No one was smarter than Kareem.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
    I watched that game.  It always cracks me up how slow he is but so dominant.

    He can ball.  He has a shot that can't be blocked because of his height.

    Shai should STILL win MVP as of right now though.  That team is crazy good and he has balled out too.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,869
    tempo_n_groove said:
    23scidoo said:
    We All Believe said:
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
    My brother & friends & I have been talking about Joker all day. As great as he is, I can't put him higher than 6th all-time for centers:

    Kareem
    Wilt
    Russell
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    But yeah that stat line is unreal.
    He is smarter than anyone in your list, the way he reads the game is unique!!
    No one was smarter than Kareem.
    All the guys he's denigrating were very smart both as people and as basketball players. Russell and Chamberlain were both very intelligent.
    It's either recency bias or something worse.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    23scidoo said:
    We All Believe said:
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
    My brother & friends & I have been talking about Joker all day. As great as he is, I can't put him higher than 6th all-time for centers:

    Kareem
    Wilt
    Russell
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    But yeah that stat line is unreal.
    He is smarter than anyone in your list, the way he reads the game is unique!!
    No one was smarter than Kareem.
    All the guys he's denigrating were very smart both as people and as basketball players. Russell and Chamberlain were both very intelligent.
    It's either recency bias or something worse.
    lol i agree.  Just mentioning that nobody was smarter than Kareem.
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,227
    tempo_n_groove said:
    23scidoo said:
    We All Believe said:
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
    My brother & friends & I have been talking about Joker all day. As great as he is, I can't put him higher than 6th all-time for centers:

    Kareem
    Wilt
    Russell
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    But yeah that stat line is unreal.
    He is smarter than anyone in your list, the way he reads the game is unique!!
    No one was smarter than Kareem.
    And Bill Russell?

    He coached and played when he won 2 Championships.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,869
    What's the one obvious difference between Jokic and those other 5 that might make some folks refer to them as smarter?

    This weekend we rock Portland
  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY - Proud South Canadian. Posts: 801
    Not sure how it was implied that Joker isn't as smart as the Top 5.

    He's unquestionably the best passing center in NBA history.

    But he also can't defend a block of ice. He's smart enough to compensate for it in other ways, but he's not a great rim protector or post defender.

    The 5 guys on the list above him would eat his lunch in the post, on both sides of the ball, as would/have a healthy Embiid and AD.

    And some of the old NBA heads might put The Admiral and Moses ahead of Joker. I'm not sure about that.

    I swear I'm not hating on Joker because I'm a Lakers diehard lol.
    May your days be long, til kingdom come.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,240
    We All Believe said:


    The 5 guys on the list above him would eat his lunch in the post, on both sides of the ball, as would/have a healthy Embiid and AD.


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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,869
    We All Believe said:
    Not sure how it was implied that Joker isn't as smart as the Top 5.

     
    23scidoo said:
    We All Believe said:
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
    My brother & friends & I have been talking about Joker all day. As great as he is, I can't put him higher than 6th all-time for centers:

    Kareem
    Wilt
    Russell
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    But yeah that stat line is unreal.
    He is smarter than anyone in your list, the way he reads the game is unique!!
    Nothing was implied about Jokic not being as smart as the other 5.
    We were told he is smarter than all of them, to which a few of us pushed back.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    cutz said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    23scidoo said:
    We All Believe said:
    May 30th said:
    Jokic was insane last night. First time in NBA history to record a 30-20-20 game. 

    And he asks so calm and casual about it. Guy is a beast!!
    My brother & friends & I have been talking about Joker all day. As great as he is, I can't put him higher than 6th all-time for centers:

    Kareem
    Wilt
    Russell
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    But yeah that stat line is unreal.
    He is smarter than anyone in your list, the way he reads the game is unique!!
    No one was smarter than Kareem.
    And Bill Russell?

    He coached and played when he won 2 Championships.
    I could have coached those teams and won championships...

    Kareem was the smarter of the two.  Not taking anything away from Bill but Kareem is a special type of smart.

    Dingbat now but Phil Jackson was up there too until he did that number on the Knicks.

    Andrew Bynum was another smart one.  Too smart to even care for the game, lol.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    Oh and Mutumbo is a Linguist.  He is smart.

    Should we talk about Basketball IQ though?

    Magic, Bird, Marovich, Lebron, Jordan, Kareem, Duncan.  Who thought outside the box more?
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,943
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Oh and Mutumbo is a Linguist.  He is smart.

    Should we talk about Basketball IQ though?

    Magic, Bird, Marovich, Lebron, Jordan, Kareem, Duncan.  Who thought outside the box more?
    I agree but the game has change a lot since 80's, 90's..i love Bird but do you think he could dominate in our days??
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    23scidoo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Oh and Mutumbo is a Linguist.  He is smart.

    Should we talk about Basketball IQ though?

    Magic, Bird, Marovich, Lebron, Jordan, Kareem, Duncan.  Who thought outside the box more?
    I agree but the game has change a lot since 80's, 90's..i love Bird but do you think he could dominate in our days??
    bird I believe could for sure.  High basketball IQ. Could shoot the 3, rebound and pass. Ultimate intimidator.

    Smaller players may have a tougher time like Cousy and Archibald.

    I do think true centers like Shaq Robinson and Russel would have a harder time as there were no real Stretch 4's during their playing years and Shaq took all of 1 3 pointer his whole career?

    We have knocked this around a bit.

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