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2021/2022 NBA Season October 19th Opening Tip off! Pg 48

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 12,753
    23scidoo said:
    Bucks lost their own game again..
    Bucks got beaten by a team that played with superior energy and effort.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Poncier said:
    23scidoo said:
    Bucks lost their own game again..
    Bucks got beaten by a team that played with superior energy and effort.
    It's also not the playoffs.


  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 15,848
    Poncier said:
    23scidoo said:
    Bucks lost their own game again..
    Bucks got beaten by a team that played with superior energy and effort.
    It's also not the playoffs.


    But you need to show character..
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  • Townes and Embiid mixing it up!

    Who ya got?!?
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 12,753
    Townes and Embiid mixing it up!

    Who ya got?!?
    Depends, are we allowing eye gouging or not?
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Poncier said:
    Townes and Embiid mixing it up!

    Who ya got?!?
    Depends, are we allowing eye gouging or not?
    I don't think he was trying to gouge his eye out.  That was just a pic taken at the perfect time.
  • Kawhi is getting a lot more looks now as he seems to be getting better.

    Siakm also keeps getting better.

    GS Warriors aren't going to tank, they will stink it up naturally and get a nice lottery pick and be on top all over again for years...


  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 41,125
    Do people think tanking means the players and coaches are not purposely trying to win games?
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 12,753
    Do people think tanking means the players and coaches are not purposely trying to win games?
    Normally no. Its usually the GM that does the tanking by decimating the roster (see 2019 Miami Dolphins) so the coach and players can't win no matter how hard they try.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • The term "tanking" gets thrown around too much now and I'm guilty.

    I use it in the improper manner as the team is going to stink really bad.

    Poncier's definition is the proper way it's used.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 41,125
    Poncier said:
    Do people think tanking means the players and coaches are not purposely trying to win games?
    Normally no. Its usually the GM that does the tanking by decimating the roster (see 2019 Miami Dolphins) so the coach and players can't win no matter how hard they try.
    I think some people do. I guess I just don't know what "stink it up naturally" means then.

    They're tanking and rightfully so. They owe the Nets a first rounder that is top 20 protected so there is a huge incentive right there to just play and develop their young guys right off the bat.

    Durant is gone. Curry is out. Thompson is out. Green is already kind of hurt. They're 1-3. If they are already in a big hole a month from now, why risk getting Green more hurt? Sit him. At the trade deadline, they'd be stupid to make moves to improve this year and get into the playoffs as the 8 seed.

    They're tanking. There's nothing natural about it. They will never say they are tanking. But tanking is absolutely the right thing for them to do this year. 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 12,753
    I will say however the Colts in the "Suck for Luck" year I think were tanking from at least a coaching standpoint if not the players as well. No NFL coach worth his salt starts Curtis Painter at QB for the majority of the season if they are trying to win games.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 41,125
    Poncier said:
    I will say however the Colts in the "Suck for Luck" year I think were tanking from at least a coaching standpoint if not the players as well. No NFL coach worth his salt starts Curtis Painter at QB for the majority of the season if they are trying to win games.
    But what other option did he have? The third stringer was better?
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  • Poncier said:
    Do people think tanking means the players and coaches are not purposely trying to win games?
    Normally no. Its usually the GM that does the tanking by decimating the roster (see 2019 Miami Dolphins) so the coach and players can't win no matter how hard they try.
    I think some people do. I guess I just don't know what "stink it up naturally" means then.

    They're tanking and rightfully so. They owe the Nets a first rounder that is top 20 protected so there is a huge incentive right there to just play and develop their young guys right off the bat.

    Durant is gone. Curry is out. Thompson is out. Green is already kind of hurt. They're 1-3. If they are already in a big hole a month from now, why risk getting Green more hurt? Sit him. At the trade deadline, they'd be stupid to make moves to improve this year and get into the playoffs as the 8 seed.

    They're tanking. There's nothing natural about it. They will never say they are tanking. But tanking is absolutely the right thing for them to do this year. 
    I'll disagree with that.

    When you compete at a high level like the Warriors do and have Curry and Dreymond on the court, you really think they want to lose?

    That is fucking nuts.

    Tanking naturally means just what I said.  They will stink naturally and not have to try to be any worse.

    I'll use the Knicks as an example.  Their fans WANTED them to keep losing but they pulled off some games because they competed.

    Never have I tried to lose on purpose at something unless it was to let a child win.  I don't even know how you think like that if you are a competitive person?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 41,125
    edited November 2019
    Poncier said:
    Do people think tanking means the players and coaches are not purposely trying to win games?
    Normally no. Its usually the GM that does the tanking by decimating the roster (see 2019 Miami Dolphins) so the coach and players can't win no matter how hard they try.
    I think some people do. I guess I just don't know what "stink it up naturally" means then.

    They're tanking and rightfully so. They owe the Nets a first rounder that is top 20 protected so there is a huge incentive right there to just play and develop their young guys right off the bat.

    Durant is gone. Curry is out. Thompson is out. Green is already kind of hurt. They're 1-3. If they are already in a big hole a month from now, why risk getting Green more hurt? Sit him. At the trade deadline, they'd be stupid to make moves to improve this year and get into the playoffs as the 8 seed.

    They're tanking. There's nothing natural about it. They will never say they are tanking. But tanking is absolutely the right thing for them to do this year. 
    I'll disagree with that.

    When you compete at a high level like the Warriors do and have Curry and Dreymond on the court, you really think they want to lose?

    That is fucking nuts.

    Tanking naturally means just what I said.  They will stink naturally and not have to try to be any worse.

    I'll use the Knicks as an example.  Their fans WANTED them to keep losing but they pulled off some games because they competed.

    Never have I tried to lose on purpose at something unless it was to let a child win.  I don't even know how you think like that if you are a competitive person?
    But they don't have Curry and Dreymond on the court together right now. They didn't enter the season trying to tank. But things happen. 

    You watch. They're saying what? Month to few months for Curry? Do you think if they are 6-20 or something at the time he is able to come back, they'll happily throw him out there? For what? The season is lost at that point. Bringing him back at that point will only mean risking losing their top 20 protected first round pick. 

    The players are trying to win. Nobody is trying to lose on purpose. That was my point. The coaches are trying to win too. But some seasons, for one reason or another, are more for developing young guys than to just try and make the 8 seed only to go home in a week and a half. 

    The Knicks are a perfect example of why a team should commit to a tank. They wasted how many years being in NBA purgatory? The Sixers, on the other hand, committed to a few bad seasons and now they're perennially favorites in the East. If the Warriors are dead in the water when Curry is able to come back, they'd be better off sticking with their young guys and hoping to reload quickly the following year with a high pick.


    Also--you saying "not trying to be worse." This is like what Ponce mentioned--its more management. You'll know by the moves they make or don't make at the trade deadline what they want from this season. Or even moves right now. Curry might be out a few months. If management truly wants and thinks they can win THIS year, they will be on the phones to try and improve via trade today. But, by all indications, they are running with the young guys instead.


    It's all about having the longest view in the room....a wise man once said. 
    Post edited by The Juggler on
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  • JK_LivinJK_Livin South JerseyPosts: 7,363
    Jah outplayed Jokic last night. Hahahahaha.
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
  • Poncier said:
    Do people think tanking means the players and coaches are not purposely trying to win games?
    Normally no. Its usually the GM that does the tanking by decimating the roster (see 2019 Miami Dolphins) so the coach and players can't win no matter how hard they try.
    I think some people do. I guess I just don't know what "stink it up naturally" means then.

    They're tanking and rightfully so. They owe the Nets a first rounder that is top 20 protected so there is a huge incentive right there to just play and develop their young guys right off the bat.

    Durant is gone. Curry is out. Thompson is out. Green is already kind of hurt. They're 1-3. If they are already in a big hole a month from now, why risk getting Green more hurt? Sit him. At the trade deadline, they'd be stupid to make moves to improve this year and get into the playoffs as the 8 seed.

    They're tanking. There's nothing natural about it. They will never say they are tanking. But tanking is absolutely the right thing for them to do this year. 
    I'll disagree with that.

    When you compete at a high level like the Warriors do and have Curry and Dreymond on the court, you really think they want to lose?

    That is fucking nuts.

    Tanking naturally means just what I said.  They will stink naturally and not have to try to be any worse.

    I'll use the Knicks as an example.  Their fans WANTED them to keep losing but they pulled off some games because they competed.

    Never have I tried to lose on purpose at something unless it was to let a child win.  I don't even know how you think like that if you are a competitive person?
    But they don't have Curry and Dreymond on the court together right now. They didn't enter the season trying to tank. But things happen. 

    You watch. They're saying what? Month to few months for Curry? Do you think if they are 6-20 or something at the time he is able to come back, they'll happily throw him out there? For what? The season is lost at that point. Bringing him back at that point will only mean risking losing their top 20 protected first round pick. 

    The players are trying to win. Nobody is trying to lose on purpose. That was my point. The coaches are trying to win too. But some seasons, for one reason or another, are more for developing young guys than to just try and make the 8 seed only to go home in a week and a half. 

    The Knicks are a perfect example of why a team should commit to a tank. They wasted how many years being in NBA purgatory? The Sixers, on the other hand, committed to a few bad seasons and now they're perennially favorites in the East. If the Warriors are dead in the water when Curry is able to come back, they'd be better off sticking with their young guys and hoping to reload quickly the following year with a high pick.


    It's all about having the longest view in the room....a wise man once said. 
    I agree with this, I thought you were saying that the players would lose on purpose.

    If I'm the front office I sit Curry the rest of the year, absolutely.  Get that lottery pick.

    The Sixers are also favorites in the east because the east stinks, lol.  Raptors will be surprisingly good again even without Kawhi, watch.  I'm still hoping that Ben gets a damn jumper.  It would be sad if he has peaked as a player already...
  • JK_Livin said:
    Jah outplayed Jokic last night. Hahahahaha.
    Spanking...
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 12,753
    Poncier said:
    I will say however the Colts in the "Suck for Luck" year I think were tanking from at least a coaching standpoint if not the players as well. No NFL coach worth his salt starts Curtis Painter at QB for the majority of the season if they are trying to win games.
    But what other option did he have? The third stringer was better?
    Turn out yes, once they were 0-11 they benched Painter for Dan Orlovsky and went 2-3 over the last 5 games (With Luck pretty much secured)
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • My lord these Brooklyn uniforms are atrocious.

    They look like a cartoon!
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 15,165
    I just found out 2 NBA games per week are being shown on free t.v. here as of today!
    I am watching Spurs vs GSW. Mills sinking 3s.

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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 15,848
    What a game last night in Dallas!!
    Le Bron and Luca gave us a great show!!
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    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018.
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 41,125
    My lord these Brooklyn uniforms are atrocious.

    They look like a cartoon!
    Combined with the gray court it looks like you're watching a black and white tv.
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 15,848
    edited November 2019
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🦌 <a href="https://twitter.com/Giannis_An34?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@Giannis_An34&lt;/a> has totaled 160 PTS, 83 REB and 46 AST in six games this season. <br><br>No other player in <a href="https://twitter.com/NBAHistory?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@NBAHistory&lt;/a> has ever totaled 150 PTS, 80 REB and 40 AST in the first six games of a season. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FearTheDeer?src=hash&amp;amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#FearTheDeer</a> <a href="https://t.co/8ZJyPhfs4r">pic.twitter.com/8ZJyPhfs4r</a></p>&mdash; NBA.com/Stats (@nbastats) <a href="">November 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    Post edited by 23scidoo on
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    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018.
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
  • 23scidoo said:
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🦌 <a href="https://twitter.com/Giannis_An34?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@Giannis_An34&lt;/a> has totaled 160 PTS, 83 REB and 46 AST in six games this season. <br><br>No other player in <a href="https://twitter.com/NBAHistory?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@NBAHistory&lt;/a> has ever totaled 150 PTS, 80 REB and 40 AST in the first six games of a season. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FearTheDeer?src=hash&amp;amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#FearTheDeer</a> <a href="https://t.co/8ZJyPhfs4r">pic.twitter.com/8ZJyPhfs4r</a></p>&mdash; NBA.com/Stats (@nbastats) <a href="">November 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    Stupid stats!  Love them.

    Why in the world did we ever convert over to finding stats like this and find them useful?

    Watching around the horn that is all the show revolves around is analytics and remembering stats and showing less and less knowledge about sports itself...
  • So I picked the Wizards to make a run for the playoffs this year...  They are playing so poorly that they might not get 10 wins this year.  Man was I wrong about Beal going to shine without  Wall around.

    Rockets are really that bad or is Miami really that good?
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 12,753
    So I picked the Wizards to make a run for the playoffs this year...  They are playing so poorly that they might not get 10 wins this year.  Man was I wrong about Beal going to shine without  Wall around.

    Yeah under 27.5 wins looks like easy money currently.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Poncier said:
    So I picked the Wizards to make a run for the playoffs this year...  They are playing so poorly that they might not get 10 wins this year.  Man was I wrong about Beal going to shine without  Wall around.

    Yeah under 27.5 wins looks like easy money currently.
    There is an amazing amount of subpar basketball being played right now.

    I'm beginning tot think that the NBA is watered down and kids need to stay in college longer.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 12,753
    Poncier said:
    So I picked the Wizards to make a run for the playoffs this year...  They are playing so poorly that they might not get 10 wins this year.  Man was I wrong about Beal going to shine without  Wall around.

    Yeah under 27.5 wins looks like easy money currently.
    There is an amazing amount of subpar basketball being played right now.

    I'm beginning tot think that the NBA is watered down and kids need to stay in college longer.
    I agree. Yet the one and done rule looks not long for the world and we'll soon have high schoolers being drafted again.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    So I picked the Wizards to make a run for the playoffs this year...  They are playing so poorly that they might not get 10 wins this year.  Man was I wrong about Beal going to shine without  Wall around.

    Yeah under 27.5 wins looks like easy money currently.
    There is an amazing amount of subpar basketball being played right now.

    I'm beginning tot think that the NBA is watered down and kids need to stay in college longer.
    I agree. Yet the one and done rule looks not long for the world and we'll soon have high schoolers being drafted again.
    Not a fan of the out of HS drafting.  I wonder why the NBA doesn't adopt the NFL mantra on HS athletes?
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