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Meltdown99

Suicide tips hidden in children's YouTube videos alarm parents

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/youtube-kids-suicide-1.5033894

brianlux

Proof positive that there are some very evil fuckers out there.  They need to be called out and shown for the worthless pieces of shit they truly are. 

KN219077

brianlux said:

Proof positive that there are some very evil fuckers out there.  They need to be called out and shown for the worthless pieces of shit they truly are. 

This sort of stuff should be heavily prosecuted

Meltdown99

I'd say google needs to be held accountable...but they are too worried about making sure they get their 5-second ad on every video...

mickeyrat

this begins with parents for trusting a tech company to babysit their kids. companies whose business models are to make the user the commodity they sell.

tempo_n_groove

Is this really a thing?

tempo_n_groove

KN219077 said:

brianlux said:

Proof positive that there are some very evil fuckers out there.  They need to be called out and shown for the worthless pieces of shit they truly are. 

This sort of stuff should be heavily prosecuted

No it shouldn't.

Monitor what your kids are watching and consider the source.

tbergs

It's a hoax, but still a very fucked up idea nonetheless.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/02/momo-challenge-hoax/583825/

mickeyrat

tbergs said:

It's a hoax, but still a very fucked up idea nonetheless.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/02/momo-challenge-hoax/583825/

2 different things...

PJ_Soul

Yeah, this actually did happen. Not a hoax. I totally agree that it is parents' responsibility alone, and not Google's. But if they can find the person actually responsible for doing it, yes, of course they should be charged with.... something, lol. Maybe mischief?

mickeyrat

tbergs said:

It's a hoax, but still a very fucked up idea nonetheless.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/02/momo-challenge-hoax/583825/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/style/momo-mania-hoax.html

tempo_n_groove

mickeyrat said:

tbergs said:

It's a hoax, but still a very fucked up idea nonetheless.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/02/momo-challenge-hoax/583825/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/style/momo-mania-hoax.html

Great article.

PJ_Soul

Momo was the hoax. But there was still some content that got spliced into kids programming on youtube kids - that's what I meant is not a hoax.

mickeyrat

PJ_Soul said:

Momo was the hoax. But there was still some content that got spliced into kids programming on youtube kids - that's what I meant is not a hoax.

I know.  Was responding to tbergs again, not your post. hoax or not parental fear surrounding momo is very real. But not enough for some parents to not trust google to have their kids interest foremost in mind.

and tbergs didnt appear to me to have read the op article. which quite clearly described a different situation.

times article seemed appropriate to the thread given tbergs reply.

PJ_Soul

mickeyrat said:

PJ_Soul said:

Momo was the hoax. But there was still some content that got spliced into kids programming on youtube kids - that's what I meant is not a hoax.

I know.  Was responding to tbergs again, not your post. hoax or not parental fear surrounding momo is very real. But not enough for some parents to not trust google to have their kids interest foremost in mind.

and tbergs didnt appear to me to have read the op article. which quite clearly described a different situation.

times article seemed appropriate to the thread given tbergs reply.

Oh I know, I was just posting that generally, in case someone thought I was saying momo wasn't a hoax.

tempo_n_groove

This is what I think of when I hear MOMO.

HughFreakingDillon

we got an email from the principal of the kids school, and I looked it up, so we had a conversation with our kids. hoax or not, the conversation it forced us to have with them was worthwhile (we've had it prior to this, obviously, but it reinforced those values). 

cincybearcat

HughFreakingDillon said:

we got an email from the principal of the kids school, and I looked it up, so we had a conversation with our kids. hoax or not, the conversation it forced us to have with them was worthwhile (we've had it prior to this, obviously, but it reinforced those values). 

We also received an email from my daughter school. I haven’t brought it up yet. She does have access to YouTube and google though.

Each kid is different. We’ve talked a lot of the ills of YouTube, the internet, fake emails, etc. I’m unsure if I should even bring it to her attention or just let the normal conversations help her. Tough call.

HughFreakingDillon

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

we got an email from the principal of the kids school, and I looked it up, so we had a conversation with our kids. hoax or not, the conversation it forced us to have with them was worthwhile (we've had it prior to this, obviously, but it reinforced those values). 

We also received an email from my daughter school. I haven’t brought it up yet. She does have access to YouTube and google though.

Each kid is different. We’ve talked a lot of the ills of YouTube, the internet, fake emails, etc. I’m unsure if I should even bring it to her attention or just let the normal conversations help her. Tough call.

we just framed it in the general way of "if anyone tells you to do something, whether it's a threat to you, or if they are threatening your loved ones with harm if you don't comply, do not believe them. ever" which they have already learned from us and at school. We didn't show them the image nor did they ask. 

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

we got an email from the principal of the kids school, and I looked it up, so we had a conversation with our kids. hoax or not, the conversation it forced us to have with them was worthwhile (we've had it prior to this, obviously, but it reinforced those values). 

We also received an email from my daughter school. I haven’t brought it up yet. She does have access to YouTube and google though.

Each kid is different. We’ve talked a lot of the ills of YouTube, the internet, fake emails, etc. I’m unsure if I should even bring it to her attention or just let the normal conversations help her. Tough call.

I don't see how it could hurt to bring it up, and it also might be useful and be yet another bit of info that makes up the big puzzle that is internet literacy. I would bring it up if I were you.

HughFreakingDillon

it all depends on the age and temperament of the child. it could cause more stress than it's worth. 

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

it all depends on the age and temperament of the child. it could cause more stress than it's worth. 

I guess that would depend on how it's presented. I think this is more a lesson in false information and hoaxes being disseminated via the internet than it is kids being targeted on the internet.

HughFreakingDillon

well, not really, I'm not going to talk to a 3 year old about the dangers of online misinformation. lol

it can actually be a good lesson in both, again, depending on the child. 

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

well, not really, I'm not going to talk to a 3 year old about the dangers of online misinformation. lol

it can actually be a good lesson in both, again, depending on the child. 

Well no, not a 3 year old obviously. You talk to kids about stuff they are actually capable of understanding. He said he's already talked about the ills of the internet and fake emails though, so I'm assuming this kid is a lot older than that.

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

well, not really, I'm not going to talk to a 3 year old about the dangers of online misinformation. lol

it can actually be a good lesson in both, again, depending on the child. 

Well no, not a 3 year old obviously. You talk to kids about stuff they are actually capable of understanding. He said he's already talked about the ills of the internet and fake emails though, so I'm assuming this kid is a lot older than that.

yes, this was my point. 

cincybearcat

Thanks for all your input about my kid...what did you all decided I should do?

oftenreading

cincybearcat said:

Thanks for all your input about my kid...what did you all decided I should do?

Media fast. 

tbergs

mickeyrat said:

PJ_Soul said:

Momo was the hoax. But there was still some content that got spliced into kids programming on youtube kids - that's what I meant is not a hoax.

I know.  Was responding to tbergs again, not your post. hoax or not parental fear surrounding momo is very real. But not enough for some parents to not trust google to have their kids interest foremost in mind.

and tbergs didnt appear to me to have read the op article. which quite clearly described a different situation.

times article seemed appropriate to the thread given tbergs reply.

Thanks for sharing. Yeah, my bad on my original post and assuming it was the same as the topic.

My wife and I had been discussing it the night before and she had tied the suicide content with the Momo stuff. I'm not on Facebook so I hadn't seen or heard about any of it. Screen time is pretty much non existent for our kids unless we've picked the content and screened it, but it's hard when we visit family or friends because alot of them just let their kids stream Youtube on tablets, phones, etc. or they have a damn Alexa in their room. It's annoying and my sister is the worst. I get wanting to get some freedom from parenting, but there are so many other activities kids can engage in, but screen time is the default these days. It's really pathetic.

mickeyrat

cincybearcat said:

Thanks for all your input about my kid...what did you all decided I should do?

not being a parent myself , I dont think I'm. qualified to suggest anything other than do what you feel is best.

HughFreakingDillon

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Thanks for all your input about my kid...what did you all decided I should do?

not being a parent myself , I dont think I'm. qualified to suggest anything other than do what you feel is best.

even AS a parent, I know better than to suggest anything other than that. 

cincybearcat

HughFreakingDillon said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Thanks for all your input about my kid...what did you all decided I should do?

not being a parent myself , I dont think I'm. qualified to suggest anything other than do what you feel is best.

even AS a parent, I know better than to suggest anything other than that. 

Yeah I’m just messing around. I was gone and came back to y’all trying to decide what I should do. Just thought it was funny. Didn’t think I’d drive so much conversation.