Mail Innovations is terrible, but it can't all be blamed on them. If 10C wanted members to get these before or on the release date (as would be reasonably expected. That is the whole point of presales), they would have had to start packaging and shipping WAY earlier than they did. I think that this should absolutely be expected of 10C. Why do a presale of albums that are readily available via retail stores unless your plan is to make sure that your members get them on release day????
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Mail Innovations is terrible, but it can't all be blamed on them. If 10C wanted members to get these before or on the release date (as would be reasonably expected. That is the whole point of presales), they would have had to start packaging and shipping WAY earlier than they did. I think that this should absolutely be expected of 10C. Why do a presale of albums that are readily available via retail stores unless your plan is to make sure that your members get them on release day????
Also-it probably isn't the fault of M.I. that there are albums sitting at the warehouse for two weeks waiting for a ride.
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Mail Innovations is terrible, but it can't all be blamed on them. If 10C wanted members to get these before or on the release date (as would be reasonably expected. That is the whole point of presales), they would have had to start packaging and shipping WAY earlier than they did. I think that this should absolutely be expected of 10C. Why do a presale of albums that are readily available via retail stores unless your plan is to make sure that your members get them on release day????
Also-it probably isn't the fault of M.I. that there are albums sitting at the warehouse for two weeks waiting for a ride.
Exactly. Of course I know that none of us who already understand how 10C operates in this context should have expected to get these in a timely fashion, but what about all the poor suckers who didn't know that 10C shipping/presale timing is pretty much the worst in the business? That's gotta be extra frustrating. If I EVER buy an album in a presale, I expect it to at least be shipped and on its way to me by the release date unless something went wrong with the manufacturing, which isn't the case here.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Mail Innovations is terrible, but it can't all be blamed on them. If 10C wanted members to get these before or on the release date (as would be reasonably expected. That is the whole point of presales), they would have had to start packaging and shipping WAY earlier than they did. I think that this should absolutely be expected of 10C. Why do a presale of albums that are readily available via retail stores unless your plan is to make sure that your members get them on release day????
Also-it probably isn't the fault of M.I. that there are albums sitting at the warehouse for two weeks waiting for a ride.
Exactly. Of course I know that none of us who already understand how 10C operates in this context should have expected to get these in a timely fashion, but what about all the poor suckers who didn't know that 10C shipping/presale timing is pretty much the worst in the business? That's gotta be extra frustrating. If I EVER buy an album in a presale, I expect it to at least be shipped and on its way to me by the release date unless something went wrong with the manufacturing, which isn't the case here.
At least I know now that I'll not be pre-ordering TOTD on vinyl from 10C, especially since they want to charge you upfront and don't even have a release date yet. It's almost as if we're "crowdfunding" the re-release....kind of sad honestly. With what I've experienced and have seen reported by others over the last several weeks in regards to vinyls, bootlegs, etc., I'm sad to say that future 10C purchases will be extremely sparse.
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It's unbelievable. The TMR blue acoustic record that I ordered yesterday has already begun its processing. I will not be the least bit surprised if/when it arrives here before Yield, which is the only of the 4 records I bought thru 10C that has even moved, albeit extremely f'n molasses-like in nature. These came out almost two weeks ago.
And so you see, I have come to doubt All that I once held as true I stand alone without beliefs The only truth I know is you.
I just bought a Keysmart on Thursday and they use Mail Innovations, so I thought oh no, it will be weeks before I see it. But it will be delivered tomorrow. Just thought I'd share.
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Same sinking boat as all the other Texans. Yield due in San Antonio yesterday. Still in Dallas. No Code started the process eleven days ago, and still hasn't left the warehouse. The slow crawl of the M.I. routes aside, how in the hell do products sit on a shelf for eleven days?! Especially as other products (7's) are shipping and being delivered. Nuts.
Same story here pretty much: Yield was due in Las Vegas yesterday, still floating around in California since Saturday. No Code looks like it might have been transferred to UPS MI today; singles haven't left warehouse. Hoping to see Yield this week. Looks like No Code and singles will be 3 weeks after release date at best.
Nuts indeed.
UPDATE: Yield and No Code still haven't arrived - meanwhile, the singles which had no tracking updates other than "Shipment information received" on 9/8 just showed up! It boggles the mind...
Osaka, Japan (2/21/95), San Diego (7/10/98), Las Vegas (10/22/00), San Diego (10/25/00), Las Vegas (6/6/03), Las Vegas (7/6/06), Los Angeles (7/9/06), VH1 Rock Honors (7/12/08), Ed Solo (7/8/11), Ed Solo (11/1/12), Los Angeles (11/23/13)
I just bought a Keysmart on Thursday and they use Mail Innovations, so I thought oh no, it will be weeks before I see it. But it will be delivered tomorrow. Just thought I'd share.
Same her on another release order of a different band. We moved so I thought I had at least a week or two to contact them but I received it within 3 business days so it's not MI causing the issue. I had to do a double take when it arrived.
Saw Yield in my favorite record store today... Would've picked it up but it had arrived yesterday in the mail
No Code still hasn't shown up at my house in AZ
Really bummed
Would be in the Ten Club's best interest to see how Third Man Records handles shipping. Seriously, take a field trip to Nashville and see how it's done. I always seem to know what's going on with every TMR vault I order. Their customer service is amazing.
Most of us wouldn't be so impatient if our expectations were managed a little better. An explained wait is much more tolerable than an unexplained one. Even if 10C said "the product got fucked up" or something like that, we can take a deep breath and not worry about when we're getting our goodies.
We also like to see that things are moving along, not "warehouse"
The waiting is the hardest part, but there are better ways to manage it.
None of us really know how taxed 10C is, but some help in this area would go a long way to chill is jumpy members out.
6/27/98 - East Troy, WI
6/29/06 - Milwaukee, WI
9/25/11 - Vancouver, BC
11/4/12 - (Eddie Vedder) Phoenix, AZ
11/1/13 - New Orleans, LA
11/19/13 - Phoenix, AZ
11/21/13 - San Diego, CA
10/12/14 - Austin, TX
10/22/14 - Denver, CO
8/22/16 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley 2) 5/9/22 - Glendale, AZ 5/18/24 - Las Vegas, NV
Bill Graham Civic Auditorium - Jul 15, 2006
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
I still don't have anything. Pretty much given up. When it shows up it shows up. What a crappy experience though- in the past I've learned to expect a little delay, but it's been close to the release date so I don't get bothered. This is just ridiculous though
Today is the fifth day that the tracking shows Yield is IN Dallas, and the expected delivery date was 3 days ago... No Code hasn't left the warehouse yet and that doesnt bother me as much as Yield being a few miles away for 5 days. Tracking is a blessing and a curse. So there are people who still have not gotten thier Deep/FanClub single? dang. i guess i can't complain. Maybe my No Code hasn't left yet because they are waiting on the colored vinyl to arrive so they can ship me one of those........
I still don't have anything. Pretty much given up. When it shows up it shows up. What a crappy experience though- in the past I've learned to expect a little delay, but it's been close to the release date so I don't get bothered. This is just ridiculous though
same here... glad I ordered a new turntable and I am waiting for it, I think it will arrive, will set it up and after that hopefully I get the vinyl, I'm getting anxious, no updates on the packages tracking in 48 hrs...
Bill Graham Civic Auditorium - Jul 15, 2006
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
I am starting to think No Code and singles were packaged together. As if 10C created all the labels then decided to stick in just one package. That may be why those of us who ordered all are seeing all those tracking numbers that don't leave warehouse. I say this because single weight .0375 but single sent out weight is 1.someting unlike rest with the .0375 weight.
I am starting to think No Code and singles were packaged together. As if 10C created all the labels then decided to stick in just one package. That may be why those of us who ordered all are seeing all those tracking numbers that don't leave warehouse. I say this because single weight .0375 but single sent out weight is 1.someting unlike rest with the .0375 weight.
Nope. My No Code is still at warehouse. Yield is in Dallas BRY 7" is also in Dallas, but separate package. Off He Goes 7" is still in Warehouse.
And so you see, I have come to doubt All that I once held as true I stand alone without beliefs The only truth I know is you.
I got my No Code about a week ago, but am still waiting for the 7 inch I ordered. I am really curious as to why they didn't package them together, especially since I only ordered one 7 inch. I decided not to track it, just hope it arrives soon!
After about 2 weeks my yield is finally out for delivery and no code has left the warehouse. Of course im at work so yield will be left hanging out in the mailroom all day or ill have to pick it up tomorrow, no code probably another week.
Well, No Code has left the building... Maybe they sent No Code to see why Yield has been hanging out in Dallas for 6 days just a few miles from my house.
Today is the fifth day that the tracking shows Yield is IN Dallas, and the expected delivery date was 3 days ago... No Code hasn't left the warehouse yet and that doesnt bother me as much as Yield being a few miles away for 5 days. Tracking is a blessing and a curse. So there are people who still have not gotten thier Deep/FanClub single? dang. i guess i can't complain. Maybe my No Code hasn't left yet because they are waiting on the colored vinyl to arrive so they can ship me one of those........
Got notice my No Code is at the post office in my town... Might see it tomorrow
6/27/98 - East Troy, WI
6/29/06 - Milwaukee, WI
9/25/11 - Vancouver, BC
11/4/12 - (Eddie Vedder) Phoenix, AZ
11/1/13 - New Orleans, LA
11/19/13 - Phoenix, AZ
11/21/13 - San Diego, CA
10/12/14 - Austin, TX
10/22/14 - Denver, CO
8/22/16 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley 2) 5/9/22 - Glendale, AZ 5/18/24 - Las Vegas, NV
according to tracking yield was supposed to be delivered on Monday and no code + 1 single on Wednesday, other singles only label created but got them all at once, shipping label for all of the singles created individually (but came in 1 package)
Bill Graham Civic Auditorium - Jul 15, 2006
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
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The TMR blue acoustic record that I ordered yesterday has already begun its processing. I will not be the least bit surprised if/when it arrives here before Yield, which is the only of the 4 records I bought thru 10C that has even moved, albeit extremely f'n molasses-like in nature.
These came out almost two weeks ago.
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
Allstate Arena - Oct 09, 2000
Xcel Energy Center - Jun 16, 2003
United Center - Jun 18, 2003
Fort William Garden - Sep 09, 2005
Xcel Energy Center - Jun 27, 2006
United Center - Aug 23, 2009
Xcel Energy Center - Oct 19, 2014
Xcel Energy Center - August 31, 2023
Xcel Energy Center - September 2, 2023
No Code still hasn't shown up at my house in AZ
Really bummed
Would be in the Ten Club's best interest to see how Third Man Records handles shipping. Seriously, take a field trip to Nashville and see how it's done. I always seem to know what's going on with every TMR vault I order. Their customer service is amazing.
Most of us wouldn't be so impatient if our expectations were managed a little better. An explained wait is much more tolerable than an unexplained one. Even if 10C said "the product got fucked up" or something like that, we can take a deep breath and not worry about when we're getting our goodies.
We also like to see that things are moving along, not "warehouse"
The waiting is the hardest part, but there are better ways to manage it.
None of us really know how taxed 10C is, but some help in this area would go a long way to chill is jumpy members out.
6/29/06 - Milwaukee, WI
9/25/11 - Vancouver, BC
11/4/12 - (Eddie Vedder) Phoenix, AZ
11/1/13 - New Orleans, LA
11/19/13 - Phoenix, AZ
11/21/13 - San Diego, CA
10/12/14 - Austin, TX
10/22/14 - Denver, CO
8/22/16 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley 2)
5/9/22 - Glendale, AZ
5/18/24 - Las Vegas, NV
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
Atlanta 9.1.98
Dallas 11.15.13
Ft. Worth 9.15.23
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
Yield is in Dallas
BRY 7" is also in Dallas, but separate package.
Off He Goes 7" is still in Warehouse.
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
Well, No Code has left the building... Maybe they sent No Code to see why Yield has been hanging out in Dallas for 6 days just a few miles from my house.
Atlanta 9.1.98
Dallas 11.15.13
Ft. Worth 9.15.23
6/29/06 - Milwaukee, WI
9/25/11 - Vancouver, BC
11/4/12 - (Eddie Vedder) Phoenix, AZ
11/1/13 - New Orleans, LA
11/19/13 - Phoenix, AZ
11/21/13 - San Diego, CA
10/12/14 - Austin, TX
10/22/14 - Denver, CO
8/22/16 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley 2)
5/9/22 - Glendale, AZ
5/18/24 - Las Vegas, NV
got them yesterday!!!
according to tracking yield was supposed to be delivered on Monday and no code + 1 single on Wednesday, other singles only label created but got them all at once, shipping label for all of the singles created individually (but came in 1 package)
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
My two were shipped on Sept 2 and still not here :(
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