One Guns n' Roses ticket cost me almost the same amt as all four PJ Fenway and Wrigley Shows

DewieCox

rgambs said:

Is it so different from songs like Girls Girls Girls, Cherry Pie, and Shout at the Devil?
A little more direct, I'll give them that.

I don't really hear a comparison with those songs and Used to Love Her. I'm basing it more on the studio version, but the GnR song sounds like Slash or Izzy fired up some simple strum along chords and they made a song out of it in a couple takes....basically just having fun during a down period in the studio.

NWOntario

I'll donate a kidney to see Axl and Slash on stage together. Relevant point: I only have one kidney.

And if anyone can listen to Appetite for Destruction (like I'm doing now) and say it's not top-to-bottom one of the all-time great rock n' roll records they're probably way cooler than me.

pjalive21

Well this escalated quickly.....

There is no way you can label GnR anything more than pure rock and roll at a time bands like Poison, Crue, and others were thriving with their style but it didn't have that "punch" and attitude that GnR brought to the table

my2hands

https://youtu.be/b5VJa-sYsyU

Suziemay

I don't know how Poison got dragged into the mix but since everyone's offering their 2 cents, I'm going to throw in there that Poison's Native Tongue is one of my favourite albums. It's not classic Poison, it's the only album where Richie Kotzen replaced CC DeVille and it was amazing.

I'm not sure why there are people trying to convince other people that G N' R isn't all that. Who the F cares? Like them, don't like them, do whatever you like and others will do the same. We don't all have to love the same bands (except Pearl Jam, of course!).

lowbudgetlush

Guns N Roses were my first love. I remember watching the MTV Live at the Ritz show as it aired on MTV & having my mind blown. Then in 1991 Pearl Jam came took the crown.

Love both bands with Pearl Jam being my favorite.

mr_perfect

this is getting pricey...already have wrigley/gnr seattle/and now the pemberton annoucement...

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

If November Rain isn't a classic power ballad, then there is no such thing!

Again, I am not saying GNR sucks, they can be very entertaining and some Slash licks are immortally good...
But let's take the rose-tinted glasses off and be real about who and what they were, and how they fit into the musical landscape of their time.

They were a BIG deal, and they were indeed seen as badass, not a glam band in any way, shape, or form. They were actually more seen as the anti-glam band when Appetite came out. I was about 12, and I remember all of us kids were going bananas for GnR precisely because we knew that they were something special, very new, way more raw in the mainstream scene than anyone else at the time. They were literally the band for people my age that removed us from that big hair crap and started half of us on the road to being skids during the late 80s/early 90s. So yeah, they were a BIG deal in the musical landscape, culturally, for young people of the day. At least as far as young people who were just getting out of the fucking Tiffany and Cindi Lauper years, GnR was cutting edge rock and something no one had really heard before. This isn't from wearing rose-coloured glasses. This is just fact, from someone who remembers how they were viewed at the time.

coco butter

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

If November Rain isn't a classic power ballad, then there is no such thing!

Again, I am not saying GNR sucks, they can be very entertaining and some Slash licks are immortally good...
But let's take the rose-tinted glasses off and be real about who and what they were, and how they fit into the musical landscape of their time.

They were a BIG deal, and they were indeed seen as badass, not a glam band in any way, shape, or form. They were actually more seen as the anti-glam band when Appetite came out. I was about 12, and I remember all of us kids were going bananas for GnR precisely because we knew that they were something special, new, way more raw in the mainstream scene than anyone else at the time. They were literally the band for people my age at the time that removed us from that big hair crap and started half of us on the road to being skids during the late 80s/early 90s. So yeah, they were a BIG deal in the musical landscape, culturally, for young people of the day. At least as far as young people who were just getting out of the fucking Tiffany and Cindi Lauper years, GnR was cutting edge rock. This isn't from wearing rose-coloured glasses. This is just fact, from someone who remembers how they were viewed at the time.

THIS I 100% AGREE^

High Fidelity 2000

That is insane (the prices). I was never very into GnR, but it sucks that if you are, you get totally screwed if you want to go see them.

The VIP tier stuff is ridiculous. It sucks when I see a band who I'd like to see (like Rush) take part in screwing their fans. "A ticket in the first 15 rows" etc is such a shitty thing to do for hundreds of dollars. We really are lucky being PJ fans in the fan club. I never whine about ticket prices to their shows, although it kind of stinks they don't charge LESS for the 3rd level/behind the stage nosebleed type seats, for the people who buy them. $100 to sit that far or have a bad view, same price as good seats, is kind of uncool, but at least they don't balance it out by making the best seats 3x as much.

Merkin Baller

rgambs said:

If November Rain isn't a classic power ballad, then there is no such thing!

Again, I am not saying GNR sucks, they can be very entertaining and some Slash licks are immortally good...
But let's take the rose-tinted glasses off and be real about who and what they were, and how they fit into the musical landscape of their time.

Honest question: if you weren't there for it, as it was happening, how would you have any sort of perspective for how they fit into the musical landscape of their time? How can you 'be real about who and what they were' if you weren't around to see how they compared to everything else on the radio in 1986?

You're entitled to your opinion, as I'm entitled to mine, and if you think a band like Blind Melon had more influence on '90s alternative music than GNR, I feel like you're the one wearing the rose colored glasses. (Bear in mind, I'm a fan of Blind Melon too)

(Fun fact: did you know Shannon Hoon was a backup singer for GNR before Blind Melon got their break? Maybe GNR were more influential on your music than you realize.)

surforia

Gn'R is f'cking awesome. If you think they are a monster ballad band, go listen to "It's So Easy," which could easily be on a Stooges album.

surforia

Another similarity - both PJ and Gn'R have mercurial singers that fired what-many-consider-to-be their best drummers.

Drowned Out

Really annoys me when people rag on hair metal. I don't defend GnR by saying they weren't that...there were great guitar rock bands in that era. Most people refuse to associate their personal favs with that label, but who cares? Tesla, Cinderella, GnR etc....not hair metal to those that like them, hair metal to those who don't. This is why these labels suck. Good music is good music. And I would take 'hair metal' over 90% of the airy sounding synth rock crap that dominates these days.

That said...GnR was diverse as hell....I mean, seriously:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7Z20fJH6I

That's not hair metal

PJ_Soul

It's not even a slag on big hair bands coming from me. It's simply that classifying GnR that way is so totally inaccurate. To me, it's like calling Pearl Jam a pop band. I just like accurate classifications, lol.

my2hands

https://youtu.be/UOqDCSRNgj4

Zod

I don't know if it helps anyone but the CITI presale code is 546616 (use visa checkout to checkout, not the regular way).

For some reason the very front section (in the wings) tickets are $100 cheaper then the next ones. I know it's a bit if a side view when your seats are almost inline with the front of the stage.. but I'd rather sit there than another 2 sections over. Whatever reason for the Seattle show the seats in the first section are $150, then the next sections are all $250.

It felt like better tickets for less money. Now I need to resell my $250 tickets (hopefully ticketmaster grant my request to get those ones refunded).

cp3iverson

They are the next step onward from Aerosmith which came from the Stones. Just a great mix of all styles of rock.

I like this discussion. Axl and Slash can be suck pricks but they were the duo of their time. The attitude has stood the tests of time. They were defiant and reckless to a fault.

Estranged is brilliant.

mwplum

Hey Zod where are your $250 ones? Not GA are they? I really wish I had been aware of the Citi presale when it went on given that it sounds like people were pulling GA's

Poncier

Zod said:

For some reason the very front section (in the wings) tickets are $100 cheaper then the next ones. I know it's a bit if a side view when your seats are almost inline with the front of the stage.. but I'd rather sit there than another 2 sections over. Whatever reason for the Seattle show the seats in the first section are $150, then the next sections are all $250.

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Not the case in Foxboro, those seats are $280.00 here unfortunately. (I would have bitten on them probably for $150)