Biden announces he won't run for president

Bentleyspop
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edited October 2015 in A Moving Train
Biden decides against a 2016 presidential bid - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-decides-against-a-2016-presidential-bid/2015/10/19/bfb58df8-7089-11e5-8248-98e0f5a2e830_story.html
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    I've always liked Biden for his directness and not really giving a shit about how the public perceives him, but 70 is my cutoff age for president.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    I am no Biden expert, but it doesn't seem like there is a lot of difference with him and Hilary other than people like Biden and don't like Hilary personally. Hilary's advantage over Joe Biden is that she is running to be the first female president so she has a large base of support that want a female president in the office.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,818
    Shame. Would have been good for the process imo.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    Wow I'm actually pretty shocked.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    Maybe he realized that he didn't want to deal with all that stupid bullshit. It was probably a great decision on a personal level.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    The longer it dragged on the less likely it was he was going to jump into the race. A shame because this crop of Democrats is weaker than usual.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    He found a new calling ...

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    JimmyV said:

    The longer it dragged on the less likely it was he was going to jump into the race. A shame because this crop of Democrats is weaker than usual.

    I think they are grabbing random people off the streets so they can justify having a televised debate.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    edited October 2015
    I can't even remember who is running besides Clinton and Sanders... Is there anyone else??
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    "Little mamacitas get their first lesson free"

    Love it.
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    PJ_Soul said:

    I can't even remember who is running besides Clinton and Sanders... Is there anyone else??

    There's David, Goliath and then the rest who have zero chance.
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    PJ_Soul said:

    Maybe he realized that he didn't want to deal with all that stupid bullshit. It was probably a great decision on a personal level.

    And how unpopular Obama is at this point. Can't remember the last sitting VP that ran and didn't win the election (never mind having any struggle in the primaries). Not being assured of winning I'm sure was the deciding factor. Thus, a decision made a reflection of their grounding in reality of the administration he is a part of and said he would run based on if he ran.

    Consider he'd be a trustworthy candidate that doesn't think he can easily win vs a completely untrustworthy candidate who only has a chance bc she has a vagina.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,818
    EdsonNascimento said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Maybe he realized that he didn't want to deal with all that stupid bullshit. It was probably a great decision on a personal level.

    And how unpopular Obama is at this point. Can't remember the last sitting VP that ran and didn't win the election (never mind having any struggle in the primaries). Not being assured of winning I'm sure was the deciding factor. Thus, a decision made a reflection of their grounding in reality of the administration he is a part of and said he would run based on if he ran.

    Consider he'd be a trustworthy candidate that doesn't think he can easily win vs a completely untrustworthy candidate who only has a chance bc she has a vagina.
    Most recent approval rating for Obama is up. At 51% now.
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    mickeyrat said:

    EdsonNascimento said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Maybe he realized that he didn't want to deal with all that stupid bullshit. It was probably a great decision on a personal level.

    And how unpopular Obama is at this point. Can't remember the last sitting VP that ran and didn't win the election (never mind having any struggle in the primaries). Not being assured of winning I'm sure was the deciding factor. Thus, a decision made a reflection of their grounding in reality of the administration he is a part of and said he would run based on if he ran.

    Consider he'd be a trustworthy candidate that doesn't think he can easily win vs a completely untrustworthy candidate who only has a chance bc she has a vagina.
    Most recent approval rating for Obama is up. At 51% now.
    Shows you the reliability of polls taken by people who actually answer their phones for stupid shit like that.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,818
    edited October 2015
    EdsonNascimento said:

    mickeyrat said:

    EdsonNascimento said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Maybe he realized that he didn't want to deal with all that stupid bullshit. It was probably a great decision on a personal level.

    And how unpopular Obama is at this point. Can't remember the last sitting VP that ran and didn't win the election (never mind having any struggle in the primaries). Not being assured of winning I'm sure was the deciding factor. Thus, a decision made a reflection of their grounding in reality of the administration he is a part of and said he would run based on if he ran.

    Consider he'd be a trustworthy candidate that doesn't think he can easily win vs a completely untrustworthy candidate who only has a chance bc she has a vagina.
    Most recent approval rating for Obama is up. At 51% now.
    Shows you the reliability of polls taken by people who actually answer their phones for stupid shit like that.
    Comports with the last election %.

    Edit for correction. Most recent gallup weekly poll oct 12-18 has him at 46%.
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    mickeyrat said:

    EdsonNascimento said:

    mickeyrat said:

    EdsonNascimento said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Maybe he realized that he didn't want to deal with all that stupid bullshit. It was probably a great decision on a personal level.

    And how unpopular Obama is at this point. Can't remember the last sitting VP that ran and didn't win the election (never mind having any struggle in the primaries). Not being assured of winning I'm sure was the deciding factor. Thus, a decision made a reflection of their grounding in reality of the administration he is a part of and said he would run based on if he ran.

    Consider he'd be a trustworthy candidate that doesn't think he can easily win vs a completely untrustworthy candidate who only has a chance bc she has a vagina.
    Most recent approval rating for Obama is up. At 51% now.
    Shows you the reliability of polls taken by people who actually answer their phones for stupid shit like that.
    Comports with the last election %.

    Edit for correction. Most recent gallup weekly poll oct 12-18 has him at 46%.
    No problem. Either way I'd trust Bidens indication that he doesn't think he can win to speak louder than any poll. Nobody who can be President decides not to. And if this administration was even somewhat popular, he'd cruise to the big seat. That's the point.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,818
    edited October 2015
    EdsonNascimento said:

    mickeyrat said:

    EdsonNascimento said:

    mickeyrat said:

    EdsonNascimento said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Maybe he realized that he didn't want to deal with all that stupid bullshit. It was probably a great decision on a personal level.

    And how unpopular Obama is at this point. Can't remember the last sitting VP that ran and didn't win the election (never mind having any struggle in the primaries). Not being assured of winning I'm sure was the deciding factor. Thus, a decision made a reflection of their grounding in reality of the administration he is a part of and said he would run based on if he ran.

    Consider he'd be a trustworthy candidate that doesn't think he can easily win vs a completely untrustworthy candidate who only has a chance bc she has a vagina.
    Most recent approval rating for Obama is up. At 51% now.
    Shows you the reliability of polls taken by people who actually answer their phones for stupid shit like that.
    Comports with the last election %.

    Edit for correction. Most recent gallup weekly poll oct 12-18 has him at 46%.
    No problem. Either way I'd trust Bidens indication that he doesn't think he can win to speak louder than any poll. Nobody who can be President decides not to. And if this administration was even somewhat popular, he'd cruise to the big seat. That's the point.
    Then you seem to believe he is disengenuous with his reason for not?

    I think he can anyway regardless of late start or behind on fundraising.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,546
    EdsonNascimento said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Maybe he realized that he didn't want to deal with all that stupid bullshit. It was probably a great decision on a personal level.

    And how unpopular Obama is at this point. Can't remember the last sitting VP that ran and didn't win the election (never mind having any struggle in the primaries). Not being assured of winning I'm sure was the deciding factor. Thus, a decision made a reflection of their grounding in reality of the administration he is a part of and said he would run based on if he ran.

    Consider he'd be a trustworthy candidate that doesn't think he can easily win vs a completely untrustworthy candidate who only has a chance bc she has a vagina.
    A little history for you....

    Only 4 sitting vice presidents have run and won the general election.

    The last sitting vice president to run and win was Bush 41.

    Before that it been 150 years since Martin Van Buren was elected in 1836.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    The last to run and not win I believe was Nixon in 1960.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,818
    JimmyV said:

    The last to run and not win I believe was Nixon in 1960.

    Could argue Ford couldnt you?
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