Eddie Vedder's Wine Cellar

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

The 'king' of wines. I have seen bottles in our shop for around $50 a bottle. Little pricey for a bottle of red.

$50 a bottle isn't pricey when we are talking wine.

I beg to differ. Some of the best italian red wine I've had cost me $12 USD. I've had the pricey stuff before too.

After the first five glasses you're not drinking for taste anymore be it a $50 or a $10 bottle.
To the OP, I always have had the opinion that either you like a wine or you don't.

Price is literally meaningless. There are some super cheap wines that are usually pretty bad, but just happen to have an fucking incredible year or two so you can get a $10 bottle that is better than most $60+ bottles, and $60+ bottles that taste like shit because they're having a bad year or a string of them.
But yeah, if you're going to have more than 2 glasses of wine, go with the cheap shit, because after that it just doesn't matter - you're trying to get drunk (and no shame in that.... unless you've got a drinking problem).

oftenreading

2-feign-reluctance said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

The 'king' of wines. I have seen bottles in our shop for around $50 a bottle. Little pricey for a bottle of red.

$50 a bottle isn't pricey when we are talking wine.

I beg to differ. Some of the best italian red wine I've had cost me $12 USD. I've had the pricey stuff before too.

We weren't talking about quality, we were talking about price. I stand by my comment that $50 isn't considered pricey for wine (any wine, but particularly red wine). If you want to talk about quality, that's a different story.

badbrains

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

The 'king' of wines. I have seen bottles in our shop for around $50 a bottle. Little pricey for a bottle of red.

$50 a bottle isn't pricey when we are talking wine.

I beg to differ. Some of the best italian red wine I've had cost me $12 USD. I've had the pricey stuff before too.

We weren't talking about quality, we were talking about price. I stand by my comment that $50 isn't considered pricey for wine (any wine, but particularly red wine). If you want to talk about quality, that's a different story.

Correct

And shit, 2 glasses of wine and I'm vedder stumbling on the stage. True story.

oftenreading

badbrains said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

The 'king' of wines. I have seen bottles in our shop for around $50 a bottle. Little pricey for a bottle of red.

$50 a bottle isn't pricey when we are talking wine.

I beg to differ. Some of the best italian red wine I've had cost me $12 USD. I've had the pricey stuff before too.

We weren't talking about quality, we were talking about price. I stand by my comment that $50 isn't considered pricey for wine (any wine, but particularly red wine). If you want to talk about quality, that's a different story.

Correct

And shit, 2 glasses of wine and I'm vedder stumbling on the stage. True story.

2 glasses and you're vedder? I smell a tribute band.

badbrains

oftenreading said:

badbrains said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

The 'king' of wines. I have seen bottles in our shop for around $50 a bottle. Little pricey for a bottle of red.

$50 a bottle isn't pricey when we are talking wine.

I beg to differ. Some of the best italian red wine I've had cost me $12 USD. I've had the pricey stuff before too.

We weren't talking about quality, we were talking about price. I stand by my comment that $50 isn't considered pricey for wine (any wine, but particularly red wine). If you want to talk about quality, that's a different story.

Correct

And shit, 2 glasses of wine and I'm vedder stumbling on the stage. True story.

2 glasses and you're vedder? I smell a tribute band.

Maybe we can call the group "OFFI-cal" ?

JH6056

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

The 'king' of wines. I have seen bottles in our shop for around $50 a bottle. Little pricey for a bottle of red.

$50 a bottle isn't pricey when we are talking wine.

I beg to differ. Some of the best italian red wine I've had cost me $12 USD. I've had the pricey stuff before too.

We weren't talking about quality, we were talking about price. I stand by my comment that $50 isn't considered pricey for wine (any wine, but particularly red wine). If you want to talk about quality, that's a different story.

I think 2-feign-reluctance's point may have been (and I agree if it was) that the whole concept of what's "pricey" and what's not is also relative. I agree with feign: $50 for a bottle of wine IS pricey in my circles. I've gotten around a bit and had the pricier stuff... Trader Joe's shiraz is totally cool with me. I have also drunk from Ed's bottle (I guess back in the days when he gave us the bottle and we gave it back - aaaah the old days when you got PJ cooties right from the source! ), and I will agree that it DID taste extra awesome (it was '06, not sure what brand he was drinking then but it was amazing), so I get the idea that some wines really are worth the splurge. But I agree with feign that while I do realize many in the world spend more than $50 on a bottle on a regular basis, for some of us, it IS pricey (and not the norm) to spend anything more than $20 on a bottle of wine. It's all relative.

tempo_n_groove

badbrains said:

paulonious said:

maybe he drinks Maynard's wine? B-)

I have a bottle from I believe 08. From what I'm hearing, his winery is really kick ass. Heard he's got some great wines. The one I tried in 08 was ok. But I'm sure he's got that shit down. Cadacus sellers.

I had the Lilith from Caduceus and while it was good it was pretty damn expensive for a blend. He's (Maynard) is definitely heading in the right direction with his wine though.

If you want a really good bang for your buck try Los Vascos Cabernet. $10 a bottle. It's a decent wine for the price.

If you want pricier and tastier try anything from the Howell Mountain region. Kick ass wines.
Mid range Seghesio and Rodney Strong are good 25-30 bottles.

I love talking wine people!

TinAnt

JH6056 said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

The 'king' of wines. I have seen bottles in our shop for around $50 a bottle. Little pricey for a bottle of red.

$50 a bottle isn't pricey when we are talking wine.

I beg to differ. Some of the best italian red wine I've had cost me $12 USD. I've had the pricey stuff before too.

We weren't talking about quality, we were talking about price. I stand by my comment that $50 isn't considered pricey for wine (any wine, but particularly red wine). If you want to talk about quality, that's a different story.

I think 2-feign-reluctance's point may have been (and I agree if it was) that the whole concept of what's "pricey" and what's not is also relative. I agree with feign: $50 for a bottle of wine IS pricey in my circles. I've gotten around a bit and had the pricier stuff... Trader Joe's shiraz is totally cool with me. I have also drunk from Ed's bottle (I guess back in the days when he gave us the bottle and we gave it back - aaaah the old days when you got PJ cooties right from the source! ), and I will agree that it DID taste extra awesome (it was '06, not sure what brand he was drinking then but it was amazing), so I get the idea that some wines really are worth the splurge. But I agree with feign that while I do realize many in the world spend more than $50 on a bottle on a regular basis, for some of us, it IS pricey (and not the norm) to spend anything more than $20 on a bottle of wine. It's all relative.

Do you hang out under the bridge, standing around a barrel burning 2x4s and pallets? You don't have to keep the paper bag the bottle came in you know....

oftenreading

tempo_n_groove said:

badbrains said:

paulonious said:

maybe he drinks Maynard's wine? B-)

I have a bottle from I believe 08. From what I'm hearing, his winery is really kick ass. Heard he's got some great wines. The one I tried in 08 was ok. But I'm sure he's got that shit down. Cadacus sellers.

I had the Lilith from Caduceus and while it was good it was pretty damn expensive for a blend. He's (Maynard) is definitely heading in the right direction with his wine though.

If you want a really good bang for your buck try Los Vascos Cabernet. $10 a bottle. It's a decent wine for the price.

If you want pricier and tastier try anything from the Howell Mountain region. Kick ass wines.
Mid range Seghesio and Rodney Strong are good 25-30 bottles.

I love talking wine people!

Pretty damn expensive for a blend? What does that mean? Only the US makes a virtue of single varietal wines. (Well, maybe Australia as well). That's something that got started when early US producers didn't have any appellation names to use in marketing (e.g. Chateauneuf du Pape, etc.). Most of the rest of the world sees the value in blends.

whispering hands

badbrains said:

oftenreading said:

badbrains said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

oftenreading said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

The 'king' of wines. I have seen bottles in our shop for around $50 a bottle. Little pricey for a bottle of red.

$50 a bottle isn't pricey when we are talking wine.

I beg to differ. Some of the best italian red wine I've had cost me $12 USD. I've had the pricey stuff before too.

We weren't talking about quality, we were talking about price. I stand by my comment that $50 isn't considered pricey for wine (any wine, but particularly red wine). If you want to talk about quality, that's a different story.

Correct

And shit, 2 glasses of wine and I'm vedder stumbling on the stage. True story.

2 glasses and you're vedder? I smell a tribute band.

Maybe we can call the group "OFFI-cal" ?

Lmao!!

tempo_n_groove

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

badbrains said:

paulonious said:

maybe he drinks Maynard's wine? B-)

I have a bottle from I believe 08. From what I'm hearing, his winery is really kick ass. Heard he's got some great wines. The one I tried in 08 was ok. But I'm sure he's got that shit down. Cadacus sellers.

I had the Lilith from Caduceus and while it was good it was pretty damn expensive for a blend. He's (Maynard) is definitely heading in the right direction with his wine though.

If you want a really good bang for your buck try Los Vascos Cabernet. $10 a bottle. It's a decent wine for the price.

If you want pricier and tastier try anything from the Howell Mountain region. Kick ass wines.
Mid range Seghesio and Rodney Strong are good 25-30 bottles.

I love talking wine people!

Pretty damn expensive for a blend? What does that mean? Only the US makes a virtue of single varietal wines. (Well, maybe Australia as well). That's something that got started when early US producers didn't have any appellation names to use in marketing (e.g. Chateauneuf du Pape, etc.). Most of the rest of the world sees the value in blends.

Fair point.

It is two type of wine in his blend though.

Totally European way of thinking with blends, Malbecs too. I like the local, single vineyard approach. If you look at Cali's wine region there are definitely better areas that produce better wines. Alexander valley and Howell mountain are two that I love.

Blending can make good things as cognac does this. Which also has areas designated to this and has to be labeled so. Champagne is only made in Champagne too, unless you're Korbel and don't care for such things. lol

I'd have fun discussing wine with you. PM me if you'd like.

eddiec

Just remember this. In 'Sideways', Miles goes on the Merlot rant outside the restaurant and completely disses Cabernet Franc during the wine tasting. Guess what grapes are in his most prized wine? The Cheval Blanc Bordeaux? Yup, a blend of Merlot and Cabernet Franc.

jumbojet

Interesting to see how the personal tastes of the boys have developped. Eddie, always being the kind of guy who's against any elitist manners, keeps bringing more and more quality wines during shows while you can see Stone or Jeff having a Heineken or Stella Artois, most of the time. Nothing against red wine btw, I am glad that it is part of the experience.

I beg to differ from the posters saying that if you will go for heavy volumes of wine, you dont have to care for quality and take some cheap wine. The stomach pays for it later, in a bad way. I hate to throw up from bad quality wine. :-?

oftenreading

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

badbrains said:

paulonious said:

maybe he drinks Maynard's wine? B-)

I have a bottle from I believe 08. From what I'm hearing, his winery is really kick ass. Heard he's got some great wines. The one I tried in 08 was ok. But I'm sure he's got that shit down. Cadacus sellers.

I had the Lilith from Caduceus and while it was good it was pretty damn expensive for a blend. He's (Maynard) is definitely heading in the right direction with his wine though.

If you want a really good bang for your buck try Los Vascos Cabernet. $10 a bottle. It's a decent wine for the price.

If you want pricier and tastier try anything from the Howell Mountain region. Kick ass wines.
Mid range Seghesio and Rodney Strong are good 25-30 bottles.

I love talking wine people!

Pretty damn expensive for a blend? What does that mean? Only the US makes a virtue of single varietal wines. (Well, maybe Australia as well). That's something that got started when early US producers didn't have any appellation names to use in marketing (e.g. Chateauneuf du Pape, etc.). Most of the rest of the world sees the value in blends.

Fair point.

It is two type of wine in his blend though.

Totally European way of thinking with blends, Malbecs too. I like the local, single vineyard approach. If you look at Cali's wine region there are definitely better areas that produce better wines. Alexander valley and Howell mountain are two that I love.

Blending can make good things as cognac does this. Which also has areas designated to this and has to be labeled so. Champagne is only made in Champagne too, unless you're Korbel and don't care for such things. lol

I'd have fun discussing wine with you. PM me if you'd like.

Champagne is only made in Champagne; anywhere else it's sparkling wine, no matter who makes it or what they call it. Korbel's is Californian sparkling wine. But hey, it doesn't bother me if they try to sneak that past people.

tempo_n_groove, if you like local single vineyard wines, then go for it and enjoy! Californian wines tend to be overpriced in BC, to my mind, so I don't drink many of them.

tempo_n_groove

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

badbrains said:

paulonious said:

maybe he drinks Maynard's wine? B-)

I have a bottle from I believe 08. From what I'm hearing, his winery is really kick ass. Heard he's got some great wines. The one I tried in 08 was ok. But I'm sure he's got that shit down. Cadacus sellers.

I had the Lilith from Caduceus and while it was good it was pretty damn expensive for a blend. He's (Maynard) is definitely heading in the right direction with his wine though.

If you want a really good bang for your buck try Los Vascos Cabernet. $10 a bottle. It's a decent wine for the price.

If you want pricier and tastier try anything from the Howell Mountain region. Kick ass wines.
Mid range Seghesio and Rodney Strong are good 25-30 bottles.

I love talking wine people!

Pretty damn expensive for a blend? What does that mean? Only the US makes a virtue of single varietal wines. (Well, maybe Australia as well). That's something that got started when early US producers didn't have any appellation names to use in marketing (e.g. Chateauneuf du Pape, etc.). Most of the rest of the world sees the value in blends.

Fair point.

It is two type of wine in his blend though.

Totally European way of thinking with blends, Malbecs too. I like the local, single vineyard approach. If you look at Cali's wine region there are definitely better areas that produce better wines. Alexander valley and Howell mountain are two that I love.

Blending can make good things as cognac does this. Which also has areas designated to this and has to be labeled so. Champagne is only made in Champagne too, unless you're Korbel and don't care for such things. lol

I'd have fun discussing wine with you. PM me if you'd like.

Champagne is only made in Champagne; anywhere else it's sparkling wine, no matter who makes it or what they call it. Korbel's is Californian sparkling wine. But hey, it doesn't bother me if they try to sneak that past people.

tempo_n_groove, if you like local single vineyard wines, then go for it and enjoy! Californian wines tend to be overpriced in BC, to my mind, so I don't drink many of them.

I did a tour of Korbel and I asked specifically "why do they call it Champagne" and the person told me point blank in front of the rest of the tour "we don't care what the rest of the world says". I laughed my ass off.

PorchgirlCO

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

badbrains said:

paulonious said:

maybe he drinks Maynard's wine? B-)

I have a bottle from I believe 08. From what I'm hearing, his winery is really kick ass. Heard he's got some great wines. The one I tried in 08 was ok. But I'm sure he's got that shit down. Cadacus sellers.

I had the Lilith from Caduceus and while it was good it was pretty damn expensive for a blend. He's (Maynard) is definitely heading in the right direction with his wine though.

If you want a really good bang for your buck try Los Vascos Cabernet. $10 a bottle. It's a decent wine for the price.

If you want pricier and tastier try anything from the Howell Mountain region. Kick ass wines.
Mid range Seghesio and Rodney Strong are good 25-30 bottles.

I love talking wine people!

Pretty damn expensive for a blend? What does that mean? Only the US makes a virtue of single varietal wines. (Well, maybe Australia as well). That's something that got started when early US producers didn't have any appellation names to use in marketing (e.g. Chateauneuf du Pape, etc.). Most of the rest of the world sees the value in blends.

Fair point.

It is two type of wine in his blend though.

Totally European way of thinking with blends, Malbecs too. I like the local, single vineyard approach. If you look at Cali's wine region there are definitely better areas that produce better wines. Alexander valley and Howell mountain are two that I love.

Blending can make good things as cognac does this. Which also has areas designated to this and has to be labeled so. Champagne is only made in Champagne too, unless you're Korbel and don't care for such things. lol

I'd have fun discussing wine with you. PM me if you'd like.

Champagne is only made in Champagne; anywhere else it's sparkling wine, no matter who makes it or what they call it. Korbel's is Californian sparkling wine. But hey, it doesn't bother me if they try to sneak that past people.

tempo_n_groove, if you like local single vineyard wines, then go for it and enjoy! Californian wines tend to be overpriced in BC, to my mind, so I don't drink many of them.

I did a tour of Korbel and I asked specifically "why do they call it Champagne" and the person told me point blank in front of the rest of the tour "we don't care what the rest of the world says". I laughed my ass off.

Funny shit! BTW got the sticker yesterday. THANKS!!!

oftenreading

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

badbrains said:

paulonious said:

maybe he drinks Maynard's wine? B-)

I have a bottle from I believe 08. From what I'm hearing, his winery is really kick ass. Heard he's got some great wines. The one I tried in 08 was ok. But I'm sure he's got that shit down. Cadacus sellers.

I had the Lilith from Caduceus and while it was good it was pretty damn expensive for a blend. He's (Maynard) is definitely heading in the right direction with his wine though.

If you want a really good bang for your buck try Los Vascos Cabernet. $10 a bottle. It's a decent wine for the price.

If you want pricier and tastier try anything from the Howell Mountain region. Kick ass wines.
Mid range Seghesio and Rodney Strong are good 25-30 bottles.

I love talking wine people!

Pretty damn expensive for a blend? What does that mean? Only the US makes a virtue of single varietal wines. (Well, maybe Australia as well). That's something that got started when early US producers didn't have any appellation names to use in marketing (e.g. Chateauneuf du Pape, etc.). Most of the rest of the world sees the value in blends.

Fair point.

It is two type of wine in his blend though.

Totally European way of thinking with blends, Malbecs too. I like the local, single vineyard approach. If you look at Cali's wine region there are definitely better areas that produce better wines. Alexander valley and Howell mountain are two that I love.

Blending can make good things as cognac does this. Which also has areas designated to this and has to be labeled so. Champagne is only made in Champagne too, unless you're Korbel and don't care for such things. lol

I'd have fun discussing wine with you. PM me if you'd like.

Champagne is only made in Champagne; anywhere else it's sparkling wine, no matter who makes it or what they call it. Korbel's is Californian sparkling wine. But hey, it doesn't bother me if they try to sneak that past people.

tempo_n_groove, if you like local single vineyard wines, then go for it and enjoy! Californian wines tend to be overpriced in BC, to my mind, so I don't drink many of them.

I did a tour of Korbel and I asked specifically "why do they call it Champagne" and the person told me point blank in front of the rest of the tour "we don't care what the rest of the world says". I laughed my ass off.

Ironic that they say they don't care what the rest of the world says, while stealing a name for the sole reason that they care very much what the rest of the world says (about Champagne). If they really didn't care, I think they'd come up with their own name.

Anyone opening a good bottle of something tonight?

florence151

Got a bottle of Oddero Barolo 2010 on Friday. Never had it before. Think I will give it a long decanting before drinking it around the end of next month. My Christmas treat to myself.

Get_Right

Ed definitely used to drink the siduri pinot noir, they used to custom make the bottles for him. I have also seen him drink jordan cabernet.

oftenreading

florence151 said:

Got a bottle of Oddero Barolo 2010 on Friday. Never had it before. Think I will give it a long decanting before drinking it around the end of next month. My Christmas treat to myself.

Your 2010 Barolo should be lovely, given the year, but are you sure you want to drink it in 2014? I can certainly understand your impatience (I would be, too), and a Christmas treat is great, but this is really one that you could cellar a long time.