America's Gun Violence

pjhawks

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/house-democrats-hold-sit-gun-control-n597041?cid=sm_tw_msnbc?cid=sm_fb_newsnation

John Lewis is a goddamned icon

great stuff

PJPOWER

I'm confused, didn't the dems vote down two of the four bills??? You would think that they would be somewhat willing to compromise, but because of a couple of the bills considered due process, they voted them down. It almost seems that they were specifically voting against due process. Oh, but let's all act like childish idiots and do a rediculous "sit in" to make ourselves look better. Hypocrites at their finest.

pjhawks

PJPOWER said:

I'm confused, didn't the dems vote down two of the four bills??? You would think that they would be somewhat willing to compromise, but because of a couple of the bills considered due process, they voted them down. It almost seems that they were specifically voting against due process. Oh, but let's all act like childish idiots and do a rediculous "sit in" to make ourselves look better. Hypocrites at their finest.

yes you are confused. the Dems want to vote on it and the Republicans refuse to allow a vote. that is the Democratic process that our country is supposed to be founded on. the republicans are holding that process hostage by not allowing a vote. same as the Supreme Court nominee.

Gern Blansten

PJPOWER said:

I'm confused, didn't the dems vote down two of the four bills??? You would think that they would be somewhat willing to compromise, but because of a couple of the bills considered due process, they voted them down. It almost seems that they were specifically voting against due process. Oh, but let's all act like childish idiots and do a rediculous "sit in" to make ourselves look better. Hypocrites at their finest.

Step away from Faux News sir...learn the ways of reality

PJPOWER

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

I'm confused, didn't the dems vote down two of the four bills??? You would think that they would be somewhat willing to compromise, but because of a couple of the bills considered due process, they voted them down. It almost seems that they were specifically voting against due process. Oh, but let's all act like childish idiots and do a rediculous "sit in" to make ourselves look better. Hypocrites at their finest.

Step away from Faux News sir...learn the ways of reality

I do not even have cable for your info...but the rude/un-intellectual response. Did the dems not vote against two of the proposed bills?
Seems to me that there is a "my way or the highway" mentality...
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/senate-gun-votes-224560

rgambs

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

I'm confused, didn't the dems vote down two of the four bills??? You would think that they would be somewhat willing to compromise, but because of a couple of the bills considered due process, they voted them down. It almost seems that they were specifically voting against due process. Oh, but let's all act like childish idiots and do a rediculous "sit in" to make ourselves look better. Hypocrites at their finest.

Step away from Faux News sir...learn the ways of reality

I do not even have cable for your info...but the same could be said for CNN. Did the dems not vote against two of the proposed bills?
Seems to me that there is a "my way or the highway" mentality...
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/senate-gun-votes-224560

Bills that stop future progress, and are essentially a step backward in gun control and a giveaway for the NRA.

PJPOWER

rgambs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

I'm confused, didn't the dems vote down two of the four bills??? You would think that they would be somewhat willing to compromise, but because of a couple of the bills considered due process, they voted them down. It almost seems that they were specifically voting against due process. Oh, but let's all act like childish idiots and do a rediculous "sit in" to make ourselves look better. Hypocrites at their finest.

Step away from Faux News sir...learn the ways of reality

I do not even have cable for your info...but the same could be said for CNN. Did the dems not vote against two of the proposed bills?
Seems to me that there is a "my way or the highway" mentality...
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/senate-gun-votes-224560

Bills that stop future progress, and are essentially a step backward in gun control and a giveaway for the NRA.

Once again, that same argument could come from the other side. The dems want their bills or none at all. The repubs are not any better, I'm not defending them. I just think it's funny how idiots here jump to the defense of dems when they are just asshole politicians as well.

Gern Blansten

PJPOWER said:

rgambs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

I'm confused, didn't the dems vote down two of the four bills??? You would think that they would be somewhat willing to compromise, but because of a couple of the bills considered due process, they voted them down. It almost seems that they were specifically voting against due process. Oh, but let's all act like childish idiots and do a rediculous "sit in" to make ourselves look better. Hypocrites at their finest.

Step away from Faux News sir...learn the ways of reality

I do not even have cable for your info...but the same could be said for CNN. Did the dems not vote against two of the proposed bills?
Seems to me that there is a "my way or the highway" mentality...
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/senate-gun-votes-224560

Bills that stop future progress, and are essentially a step backward in gun control and a giveaway for the NRA.

Once again, that same argument could come from the other side. The dems want their bills or none at all. The repubs are not any better, I'm not defending them. I just think it's funny how idiots here jump to the defense of dems when they are just asshole politicians as well.

An asshole politician that is trying to pass gun laws that protect citizens (even the citizens that oppose it) is less of an asshole than the politician that is so beholden to the NRA they won't even allow a vote.

PJPOWER

Assholes are assholes. As I said earlier, you can sit on your hands and wait for politicians to agree or you can start doing things on an individual level. Our community has all kinds of free meetings to educate people on gun laws, self defense, situational awareness, life saving techniques, active shooter awareness, etc.
Countless examples of lives being saved by people that know some of these basic things. Maybe we should give tax or insurance breaks for people that attend these classes, much like they do for defensive driving classes...? People are always looking for "steps in the right direction", but are unwilling to take any steps of their own.

HughFreakingDillon

PJPOWER said:

Assholes are assholes. As I said earlier, you can sit on your hands and wait for politicians to agree or you can start doing things on an individual level. Our community has all kinds of free meetings to educate people on gun laws, self defense, situational awareness, life saving techniques, active shooter awareness, etc.
Countless examples of lives being saved by people that know some of these basic things. Maybe we should give tax or insurance breaks for people that attend these classes, much like they do for defensive driving classes...? People are always looking for "steps in the right direction", but are unwilling to take any steps of their own.

tax breaks for attending safety classes is a fabulous idea.

PJPOWER

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

Assholes are assholes. As I said earlier, you can sit on your hands and wait for politicians to agree or you can start doing things on an individual level. Our community has all kinds of free meetings to educate people on gun laws, self defense, situational awareness, life saving techniques, active shooter awareness, etc.
Countless examples of lives being saved by people that know some of these basic things. Maybe we should give tax or insurance breaks for people that attend these classes, much like they do for defensive driving classes...? People are always looking for "steps in the right direction", but are unwilling to take any steps of their own.

tax breaks for attending safety classes is a fabulous idea.

Would probably save taxpayers and the government a lot in the long run, in medical bills alone! I'd add parenting classes to the list as well!

Stickman12

An enemy of our country, our beliefs, our lifestyle attacks us on our land and we want to penalize law abiding citizens. Wish ISIS had the same mentality. We could infiltrate Syria and kill some terrorists. They could blame themselves for the event and ban firearms from the terrorists.

eddiec

Stickman12 said:

An enemy of our country, our beliefs, our lifestyle attacks us on our land and we want to penalize law abiding citizens. Wish ISIS had the same mentality. We could infiltrate Syria and kill some terrorists. They could blame themselves for the event and ban firearms from the terrorists.

You talking about the American guy who had a sexual identity issue?

mcgruff10

eddiec said:

Stickman12 said:

An enemy of our country, our beliefs, our lifestyle attacks us on our land and we want to penalize law abiding citizens. Wish ISIS had the same mentality. We could infiltrate Syria and kill some terrorists. They could blame themselves for the event and ban firearms from the terrorists.

You talking about the American guy who had a sexual identity issue?

Yes, The same guy that pledged his allegiance to Isis.

HughFreakingDillon

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Stickman12 said:

An enemy of our country, our beliefs, our lifestyle attacks us on our land and we want to penalize law abiding citizens. Wish ISIS had the same mentality. We could infiltrate Syria and kill some terrorists. They could blame themselves for the event and ban firearms from the terrorists.

You talking about the American guy who had a sexual identity issue?

Yes, The same guy that pledged his allegiance to Isis.

because he didn't want to yell "I love men and they don't love me!" to the 911 operator.

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Stickman12 said:

An enemy of our country, our beliefs, our lifestyle attacks us on our land and we want to penalize law abiding citizens. Wish ISIS had the same mentality. We could infiltrate Syria and kill some terrorists. They could blame themselves for the event and ban firearms from the terrorists.

You talking about the American guy who had a sexual identity issue?

Yes, The same guy that pledged his allegiance to Isis.

because he didn't want to yell "I love men and they don't love me!" to the 911 operator.

Yeah really. Honestly, the guy could have just as easily pledge his allegiance to Satan in this case and it wouldn't make any difference.

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Stickman12 said:

An enemy of our country, our beliefs, our lifestyle attacks us on our land and we want to penalize law abiding citizens. Wish ISIS had the same mentality. We could infiltrate Syria and kill some terrorists. They could blame themselves for the event and ban firearms from the terrorists.

You talking about the American guy who had a sexual identity issue?

Yes, The same guy that pledged his allegiance to Isis.

because he didn't want to yell "I love men and they don't love me!" to the 911 operator.

Yeah really. Honestly, the guy could have just as easily pledge his allegiance to Satan in this case and it wouldn't make any difference.

But he didn't. He pledged his allegiance to isis. That s a pretty big deal

jeffbr

What might have been the root of his sexual identity issue? Religious based guilt would be my guess. I don't think we can ignore either his sexual identity issues, or his religious identity issues. Both played a role as far as I can tell. One doesn't have sexual identity issues in a vacuum.

Gern Blansten

Isis was the scapegoat. Dude was weird and got rejected at that club and decided to take them out.

PJ_Soul

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

eddiec said:

Stickman12 said:

An enemy of our country, our beliefs, our lifestyle attacks us on our land and we want to penalize law abiding citizens. Wish ISIS had the same mentality. We could infiltrate Syria and kill some terrorists. They could blame themselves for the event and ban firearms from the terrorists.

You talking about the American guy who had a sexual identity issue?

Yes, The same guy that pledged his allegiance to Isis.

because he didn't want to yell "I love men and they don't love me!" to the 911 operator.

Yeah really. Honestly, the guy could have just as easily pledge his allegiance to Satan in this case and it wouldn't make any difference.

But he didn't. He pledged his allegiance to isis. That s a pretty big deal

Not really, since ISIS actually has nothing to do with him, and he actually has nothing to do with ISIS.