American's to the rescue again

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited November 2013
    Jason P wrote:
    h3E3E499B

    Does it make you feel good about yourself to draw attention to the Nazi occupation of France? Why didn't you mention Greece, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Norway, Austria, Slovakia, or Holland, instead?

    By the way, in between beating yourself off over the Rambo movies, how does the footage of the fall of Saigon by a peasant army make you feel inside? Didn't work out too well for you, that one, did it.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    pjhawks wrote:
    I didn't say we were perfect or we don't do some shitty things in the world but sometimes I get tired of the put downs. sometimes it's good to show some of the bashers that not everything about this country sucks or is wrong.

    Who ever said everything about the U.S is wrong? Nobody did. In six years of posting here I've not once seen anyone make that claim.
    And why would you get tired of hearing criticism of your government? Criticism of your government is a big part of what a democracy is, or should be. Or would you prefer your government to operate in total secrecy and be immune to criticism? In which case, what's your problem with China? Sounds like you'd prefer living here, considering that criticism of the Chinese government is largely stifled and suppressed.

    Oh, and by the way, this may come as a massive shock to you, so you may want to sit down before reading this:

    Your government and America are not the same thing.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    The US does provide great help around as we should because we have the means to do so. We also cause much mayhem in countries around the world to further our agendas, I gather both circumstances washes themselves out.

    Peace

    I've not read 'The Shock Doctrine', but I'm sure that those here who have may have something to say about this.

    The scales are tilted staggeringly towards the 'mayhem' side. There's hardly balance at play.
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    Byrnzie wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    The US does provide great help around as we should because we have the means to do so. We also cause much mayhem in countries around the world to further our agendas, I gather both circumstances washes themselves out.

    Peace

    I've not read 'The Shock Doctrine', but I'm sure that those here who have may have something to say about this.

    The scales are tilted staggeringly towards the 'mayhem' side. There's hardly balance at play.

    I would agree with that, also ever notice that those countries that we cause such mayhem are of far less power than the US. It appears the US hardly ever chooses battles with countries that can fire back with the same military fire power.

    Peace
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    h3E3E499B

    Does it make you feel good about yourself to draw attention to the Nazi occupation of France? Why didn't you mention Greece, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Norway, Austria, Slovakia, or Holland, instead?

    By the way, in between beating yourself off over the Rambo movies, how does the footage of the fall of Saigon by a peasant army make you feel inside? Didn't work out too well for you, that one, did it.
    my advice ... take a chill pill. or try developing what the romans called a sensus humor.

    If The Simpsons would have included Greece, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Norway, Austria, Slovakia, or Holland, I would have included it also.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jason P wrote:
    my advice ... take a chill pill. or try developing what the romans called a sensus humor.

    I think get it now; calling the french 'cheese eating surrender monkeys' was your attempt at being funny?

    Don't give up the day job.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    exhibit A on why the US will continue to be the way it is ...
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
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  • jumbojetjumbojet Posts: 1,484
    About the official language in USA; Germans like to tell a story that German failed to English by a slight margin at the vote of the official language during the times of establishment of USA. Thanks to Google, I learnt that this is just a myth.

    And football (soccer?) is certainly the most favorite game in the world. :)
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  • pjhawks wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    I was always under the impression that we (as people in general) help out those who are in need out of the goodness of our hearts... not so we can pat ourselves on the backs and gloat on and on about how wonderful we are.
    I always thought we do it simply because it is the right thing to do... as humans, for humans.
    ...
    I guess I was wrong.

    I didn't realize this forum was only for bashing the USA. it's a daily occurrence on here. what's wrong with pointing out what we do (have done) right over the years? I didn't say we were perfect or we don't do some shitty things in the world but sometimes I get tired of the put downs. sometimes it's good to show some of the bashers that not everything about this country sucks or is wrong. sue me for that.

    It was probably your delivery. The message got lost when you went on the attack to make your point. You lost your effort on your second post when you marginalized other countries' efforts towards the great war and mocked soccer/football.
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  • PingfahPingfah Posts: 350
    Well in fairness he's right about Football/Soccer. Bunch of cheating thugs running around pretending to fall over, oh, oh my KNEE!!!. :twisted:
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    pjhawks wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    I was always under the impression that we (as people in general) help out those who are in need out of the goodness of our hearts... not so we can pat ourselves on the backs and gloat on and on about how wonderful we are.
    I always thought we do it simply because it is the right thing to do... as humans, for humans.
    ...
    I guess I was wrong.

    I didn't realize this forum was only for bashing the USA. it's a daily occurrence on here. what's wrong with pointing out what we do (have done) right over the years? I didn't say we were perfect or we don't do some shitty things in the world but sometimes I get tired of the put downs. sometimes it's good to show some of the bashers that not everything about this country sucks or is wrong. sue me for that.

    It was probably your delivery. The message got lost when you went on the attack to make your point. You lost your effort on your second post when you marginalized other countries' efforts towards the great war and mocked soccer/football.

    TBU just about sums it up in the above post. I'm very proud if what this country is capable of doing and does do in helping other countries when disaster strikes. At the same time we as citizens of this should not ignore or just forget about the disasters we cause around the world.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    my advice ... take a chill pill. or try developing what the romans called a sensus humor.

    I think get it now; calling the french 'cheese eating surrender monkeys' was your attempt at being funny?

    Don't give up the day job.
    It was Groundskeeper Willy's attempt to be funny, or more directly, Simpson's staff writer Ken Keeler. And it was a veiled dig on all the pro-us / anti-us "masturbatory" chest beating that was going back in forth on this thread.

    I won't give up my day job. I hope things are going well for you at the insult store. It appears that business is booming.

    Good day, sir.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,605
    Jason P wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    my advice ... take a chill pill. or try developing what the romans called a sensus humor.

    I think get it now; calling the french 'cheese eating surrender monkeys' was your attempt at being funny?

    Don't give up the day job.
    It was Groundskeeper Willy's attempt to be funny, or more directly, Simpson's staff writer Ken Keeler. And it was a veiled dig on all the pro-us / anti-us "masturbatory" chest beating that was going back in forth on this thread.

    I won't give up my day job. I hope things are going well for you at the insult store. It appears that business is booming.

    Good day, sir.
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  • I thought that the Philippines were like Peurto Rico, just an extension of the mainland.


    Oh thank you Uncle Sam for helping out the people in need. May I kiss your sandals and rub oil on your feet.

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  • pjhawks wrote:
    when bad things happen we always step in. the haters never bring this up.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/1 ... d%3D404009

    where is the dude from China? what are they doing to help out?

    Nope, not a typo.

    According to the South China Morning Post, China has pledged just $100,000 in cash to victims of Typhoon Haiyan, which authorities estimated may have killed 10,000 and left physical damage "so great that it is even hard to tally."

    The U.S. has pledged 20 million. Australia has pledged $10 million. HSBC bank alone has pledged $1 million, according to The Telegraph.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/china-pl ... id-2013-11

    Not much :corn:
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    pjhawks wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    I was always under the impression that we (as people in general) help out those who are in need out of the goodness of our hearts... not so we can pat ourselves on the backs and gloat on and on about how wonderful we are.
    I always thought we do it simply because it is the right thing to do... as humans, for humans.
    ...
    I guess I was wrong.

    I didn't realize this forum was only for bashing the USA. it's a daily occurrence on here. what's wrong with pointing out what we do (have done) right over the years? I didn't say we were perfect or we don't do some shitty things in the world but sometimes I get tired of the put downs. sometimes it's good to show some of the bashers that not everything about this country sucks or is wrong. sue me for that.
    ...
    Read the Title of this thread... that about sums it all up.
    ...
    And you ask, 'What's wrong with pointing out what we do (have done) right over the years?'... which is a fair question. But, that is not a stand alone question. That question has to be coupled to and weighed against pointing out everything we have done and are still doing that is wrong over the years. We have to be fair in our own assessments of ourselves... if we ask for fairness in others assesments of our character as a Nation.
    ...
    And i'll point it out again... we do good deeds because they are the right thing to do. Like, you don't give someone who lives on the street money... so other people can see what a wonderful person you are, right? You do it whether there is a crowd around you or if there is no one there to witness it, right? Why? Because it is the good deed that matters... not what others think about it.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    The Philippines has long been pretty much an off-shore U.S military base. Maybe why it's relations with China have not been so cozy, due to the problem of contested territories in the South China Sea.

    Read on: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_ ... 90913.html

    It's not really surprising then that the U.S will use this natural disaster to expand it's influence in the Philippines by flooding the place with money and investments.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jason P wrote:
    It was Groundskeeper Willy's attempt to be funny, or more directly, Simpson's staff writer Ken Keeler. And it was a veiled dig on all the pro-us / anti-us "masturbatory" chest beating that was going back in forth on this thread.

    I won't give up my day job. I hope things are going well for you at the insult store. It appears that business is booming.

    Good day, sir.

    A veiled dig? Would be interesting to see what any French people on this board have to say about that.

    You should stick to watching cartoons. You'll be on safer territory there.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    pjhawks wrote:
    when bad things happen we always step in. the haters never bring this up.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/1 ... d%3D404009

    where is the dude from China? what are they doing to help out?


    american's what to the rescue??? oh you mean americans plural? I get so confused when people fuck up the english language. :-?

    and as for what's that dude from china doing... id say more than you think considering his country practically owns the US anyways. ;)8-)
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  • PingfahPingfah Posts: 350
    I posted this the last time someone was crowing about how generous "they" are (by "they" I mean their Government of course):

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries ... tatistics/

    It's all very well to throw numbers around, but unless taken as a percentage of GDP they are utterly meaningless. As this list shows, the USA is far from being the most generous giver, per citizen Sweden gives 5 times as much, and the UK more than double. Even Greece & Spain who are mired in the worst recession in decades and have 25% unemployment give more.

    The USA could and should do much more.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Pingfah wrote:
    I posted this the last time someone was crowing about how generous "they" are (by "they" I mean their Government of course):

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries ... tatistics/

    It's all very well to throw numbers around, but unless taken as a percentage of GDP they are utterly meaningless. As this list shows, the USA is far from being the most generous giver, per citizen Sweden gives 5 times as much, and the UK more than double. Even Greece & Spain who are mired in the worst recession in decades and have 25% unemployment give more.

    The USA could and should do much more.

    Come on ping, you know some on here dnt give a fuck about facts! 8-) . Here's my favorite lyrics from rage:

    "American eyes, American eyes, view the world thru American eyes. Bury the past, rob us blind, and leave NOTHING behind!" -Zach D Rocha
  • Pingfah wrote:
    I posted this the last time someone was crowing about how generous "they" are (by "they" I mean their Government of course):

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries ... tatistics/

    It's all very well to throw numbers around, but unless taken as a percentage of GDP they are utterly meaningless. As this list shows, the USA is far from being the most generous giver, per citizen Sweden gives 5 times as much, and the UK more than double. Even Greece & Spain who are mired in the worst recession in decades and have 25% unemployment give more.

    The USA could and should do much more.

    So... you're saying with these... facts of yours... that the US's foreign aid amounts to Bill Gates tossing a quarter into the homeless man's cup?

    Freaking facts.

    Stupid Greece and Spain.

    American's.

    :lol:
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    badbrains wrote:
    Pingfah wrote:
    I posted this the last time someone was crowing about how generous "they" are (by "they" I mean their Government of course):

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries ... tatistics/

    It's all very well to throw numbers around, but unless taken as a percentage of GDP they are utterly meaningless. As this list shows, the USA is far from being the most generous giver, per citizen Sweden gives 5 times as much, and the UK more than double. Even Greece & Spain who are mired in the worst recession in decades and have 25% unemployment give more.

    The USA could and should do much more.

    Come on ping, you know some on here dnt give a fuck about facts! 8-) . Here's my favorite lyrics from rage:

    "American eyes, American eyes, view the world thru American eyes. Bury the past, rob us blind, and leave NOTHING behind!" -Zach D Rocha

    so you base your knowledge and opinions of America by lyrics from rock bands ? well at least you listen to rock n roll.
    yes I'm kidding you..

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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Godfather. wrote:
    badbrains wrote:
    Pingfah wrote:
    I posted this the last time someone was crowing about how generous "they" are (by "they" I mean their Government of course):

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries ... tatistics/

    It's all very well to throw numbers around, but unless taken as a percentage of GDP they are utterly meaningless. As this list shows, the USA is far from being the most generous giver, per citizen Sweden gives 5 times as much, and the UK more than double. Even Greece & Spain who are mired in the worst recession in decades and have 25% unemployment give more.

    The USA could and should do much more.

    Come on ping, you know some on here dnt give a fuck about facts! 8-) . Here's my favorite lyrics from rage:

    "American eyes, American eyes, view the world thru American eyes. Bury the past, rob us blind, and leave NOTHING behind!" -Zach D Rocha

    so you base your knowledge and opinions of America by lyrics from rock bands ? well at least you listen to rock n roll.
    yes I'm kidding you..

    Godfather.

    I'd rather base my knowledge of America on lyrics from rage then faux news ANYDAY. And no, I'm not kidding.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    Oh, and it's called football, not soccer. Only Americans call it soccer, and the game that you call football is played with your hands. Go figure.

    I've always found it amusing that we named it after the one body part you have to use in the game if you FAIL at it. :lol:
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  • Byrnzie wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    It was Groundskeeper Willy's attempt to be funny, or more directly, Simpson's staff writer Ken Keeler. And it was a veiled dig on all the pro-us / anti-us "masturbatory" chest beating that was going back in forth on this thread.

    I won't give up my day job. I hope things are going well for you at the insult store. It appears that business is booming.

    Good day, sir.

    A veiled dig? Would be interesting to see what any French people on this board have to say about that.

    You should stick to watching cartoons. You'll be on safer territory there.

    Groundskeeper Willie is known as a chest beating buffoon on that show, Byrnzie. Posting that picture was the opposite of what you think it is.
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  • Ooops wrong thread.

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