American's to the rescue again

JimmyV

chime wrote:

At the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month we will remember them

All nationalities

mickeyrat

which is , The U.S. is but one of many countries with citizens who are more than willing to help their fellow man.

Statements otherwise are in part why the rest of the world thinks us a laughingstock.

Such individuals who spout such bullshit, speak for themselves only.


There are two people who posted here all the time before pay to post came to life. Muiren77 and SunsRival. THEY live there and I expect have been greatly affected by this. Thoughts and prayers, please, for those two ,their families and all affected by natures fury.
If you chose to do so, donate if you can to a charity that best suits you and your beliefs that may have a hand in helping over there.

Thank you.

gimmesometruth27

mickeyrat wrote:

which is , The U.S. is but one of many countries with citizens who are more than willing to help their fellow man.

Statements otherwise are in part why the rest of the world thinks us a laughingstock.

Such individuals who spout such bullshit, speak for themselves only.


There are two people who posted here all the time before pay to post came to life. Muiren77 and SunsRival. THEY live there and I expect have been greatly affected by this. Thoughts and prayers, please, for those two ,their families and all affected by natures fury.
If you chose to do so, donate if you can to a charity that best suits you and your beliefs that may have a hand in helping over there.

Thank you.

wow, i remember those names. i hope they are ok..

Drowned Out

pjhawks wrote:

when bad things happen we always step in. the haters never bring this up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/1 ... d%3D404009

where is the dude from China? what are they doing to help out?

The haters never bring this up? So if someone is critical of the US govt, to show our impartiality, we should make threads thanking them for disaster relief?
It's hard to quantify foreign aid. From what I've seen, the US government scores highest in total aid contributions, but below average per capita...Per capita private donations are near the top....which to me suggests a correlation with taxation that might place the US overall as an average contributor. I'm also fairly certain that taken as percentage of GDP, the US is last amongst developed countries...
Now...should we look at a net result of US foreign policy?

You post this like some kind of trump card in a personal vendetta against Byrnzie, and a testament to 'murca's superiority over China? :? weird...
Then, to top it off...you downplay the role of allied soldiers in WW2, on the holiday most of those countries have set aside to remember their vets? :roll:
classy.

Cosmo

I was always under the impression that we (as people in general) help out those who are in need out of the goodness of our hearts... not so we can pat ourselves on the backs and gloat on and on about how wonderful we are.
I always thought we do it simply because it is the right thing to do... as humans, for humans.
...
I guess I was wrong.

pjhawks

Cosmo wrote:

I was always under the impression that we (as people in general) help out those who are in need out of the goodness of our hearts... not so we can pat ourselves on the backs and gloat on and on about how wonderful we are.
I always thought we do it simply because it is the right thing to do... as humans, for humans.
...
I guess I was wrong.

I didn't realize this forum was only for bashing the USA. it's a daily occurrence on here. what's wrong with pointing out what we do (have done) right over the years? I didn't say we were perfect or we don't do some shitty things in the world but sometimes I get tired of the put downs. sometimes it's good to show some of the bashers that not everything about this country sucks or is wrong. sue me for that.

brianlux

pjhawks wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

I was always under the impression that we (as people in general) help out those who are in need out of the goodness of our hearts... not so we can pat ourselves on the backs and gloat on and on about how wonderful we are.
I always thought we do it simply because it is the right thing to do... as humans, for humans.
...
I guess I was wrong.

I didn't realize this forum was only for bashing the USA. it's a daily occurrence on here. what's wrong with pointing out what we do (have done) right over the years? I didn't say we were perfect or we don't do some shitty things in the world but sometimes I get tired of the put downs. sometimes it's good to show some of the bashers that not everything about this country sucks or is wrong. sue me for that.

Calling people "haters" is no better than criticizing (or as you call it, "bashing") a country. We're people, the country is a concept. And if you spend a little more time here you'll see that some very good things are said about the world (including the U.S.) we share- this is, after all, a world-wide forum.

Byrnzie

pjhawks wrote:

perhaps you in the UK should get on your knees and kiss our shoes for without us you losers would be speaking German as you try and convince us that soccer is a real sport. carry on.

Or perhaps not, considering that the U.S did fuck all until December 1941, other than to blackmail Britain out of a large proportion of it's colonial assets, in return for allowing shipments across the Atlantic. Also, it was the Russians who defeated the German army, not the U.S, so if us Brits owe thanks to anyone, then we owe it to them.

Oh, and it's called football, not soccer. Only Americans call it soccer, and the game that you call football is played with your hands. Go figure.

Keep up the good work! You're doing a great job.

Byrnzie

g under p wrote:

The US does provide great help around as we should because we have the means to do so. We also cause much mayhem in countries around the world to further our agendas, I gather both circumstances washes themselves out.

Peace

I've not read 'The Shock Doctrine', but I'm sure that those here who have may have something to say about this.

Byrnzie

lukin2006 wrote:

once again many countries played an important role in ending that war ...

Yeah, and the Russians destroyed the German 6th Army at Stalingrad, destroyed most of what was left of the German war machine at Kursk, captured Berlin, and liberated Auschwitz. Also, 9 out of every 10 German soldiers killed in the war were killed on Russian soil.

But then, most Americans don't even know that Russia was involved in WWII, and the words Stalingrad, Kursk, and General Zhukov, mean nothing to them.

Byrnzie

Jason P wrote:

Does it make you feel good about yourself to draw attention to the Nazi occupation of France? Why didn't you mention Greece, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Norway, Austria, Slovakia, or Holland, instead?

By the way, in between beating yourself off over the Rambo movies, how does the footage of the fall of Saigon by a peasant army make you feel inside? Didn't work out too well for you, that one, did it.

Byrnzie

pjhawks wrote:

I didn't say we were perfect or we don't do some shitty things in the world but sometimes I get tired of the put downs. sometimes it's good to show some of the bashers that not everything about this country sucks or is wrong.

Who ever said everything about the U.S is wrong? Nobody did. In six years of posting here I've not once seen anyone make that claim.
And why would you get tired of hearing criticism of your government? Criticism of your government is a big part of what a democracy is, or should be. Or would you prefer your government to operate in total secrecy and be immune to criticism? In which case, what's your problem with China? Sounds like you'd prefer living here, considering that criticism of the Chinese government is largely stifled and suppressed.

Oh, and by the way, this may come as a massive shock to you, so you may want to sit down before reading this:

Your government and America are not the same thing.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Byrnzie wrote:

g under p wrote:

The US does provide great help around as we should because we have the means to do so. We also cause much mayhem in countries around the world to further our agendas, I gather both circumstances washes themselves out.

Peace

I've not read 'The Shock Doctrine', but I'm sure that those here who have may have something to say about this.

The scales are tilted staggeringly towards the 'mayhem' side. There's hardly balance at play.

g under p

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

g under p wrote:

The US does provide great help around as we should because we have the means to do so. We also cause much mayhem in countries around the world to further our agendas, I gather both circumstances washes themselves out.

Peace

I've not read 'The Shock Doctrine', but I'm sure that those here who have may have something to say about this.

The scales are tilted staggeringly towards the 'mayhem' side. There's hardly balance at play.

I would agree with that, also ever notice that those countries that we cause such mayhem are of far less power than the US. It appears the US hardly ever chooses battles with countries that can fire back with the same military fire power.

Peace

Jason P

Byrnzie wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Does it make you feel good about yourself to draw attention to the Nazi occupation of France? Why didn't you mention Greece, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Norway, Austria, Slovakia, or Holland, instead?

By the way, in between beating yourself off over the Rambo movies, how does the footage of the fall of Saigon by a peasant army make you feel inside? Didn't work out too well for you, that one, did it.

my advice ... take a chill pill. or try developing what the romans called a sensus humor.

If The Simpsons would have included Greece, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Norway, Austria, Slovakia, or Holland, I would have included it also.

Byrnzie

Jason P wrote:

my advice ... take a chill pill. or try developing what the romans called a sensus humor.

I think get it now; calling the french 'cheese eating surrender monkeys' was your attempt at being funny?

Don't give up the day job.

polaris_x

exhibit A on why the US will continue to be the way it is ...

JimmyV

When hatred is present in a dialogue, valid points are almost always swallowed up by it.

jumbojet

About the official language in USA; Germans like to tell a story that German failed to English by a slight margin at the vote of the official language during the times of establishment of USA. Thanks to Google, I learnt that this is just a myth.

And football (soccer?) is certainly the most favorite game in the world.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

pjhawks wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

I was always under the impression that we (as people in general) help out those who are in need out of the goodness of our hearts... not so we can pat ourselves on the backs and gloat on and on about how wonderful we are.
I always thought we do it simply because it is the right thing to do... as humans, for humans.
...
I guess I was wrong.

I didn't realize this forum was only for bashing the USA. it's a daily occurrence on here. what's wrong with pointing out what we do (have done) right over the years? I didn't say we were perfect or we don't do some shitty things in the world but sometimes I get tired of the put downs. sometimes it's good to show some of the bashers that not everything about this country sucks or is wrong. sue me for that.

It was probably your delivery. The message got lost when you went on the attack to make your point. You lost your effort on your second post when you marginalized other countries' efforts towards the great war and mocked soccer/football.