Where's the movement?

Jeanwah

Bentleyspop wrote:

In the 60s it was Americas youth that drove the movement

Todays modern American youth are too busy...

texting
snapchatting
Instagraming
tweeting
playing video games
sexting
binge drinking :shock:
and watching Jersey Shore :fp:

To get involved in anything even close to what the youth were involved in in the 60s
:nono:

They're really much too immature to care about anything other than themselves and their drama. The ones to get angry are us older ones.

Last-12-Exit

I don't disagree with you about marching and protesting. But don't call other generations lazy. There have been protests (OWS, tea party marches, etc). But I'm pretty sure if computer technology thats here today was around in the '60's, you guys may not have been marching as much.

know1

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Violence, bombs, death, guns killing people, hatred, violence toward women, violence toward children, prejudice, shootings, rape, killing, racism, torture, bigotry, sexism, hatred...

We fought against these kinds of things in the 60's and apparently all of that got us nowhere.

Where's the movement? We need to start it up again.

the saddest part is most of the people in the 60s who fought against these things are retired, well off, and are republicans now. the same things they raged against back then.

talk about becoming what you once hated.

So you're saying that Republicans are in favor of all the things mentioned in the OP?

And to the OP - A movement against all of those things at once would be just too unfocused.

PJ_Soul

Jeanwah wrote:

Bentleyspop wrote:

In the 60s it was Americas youth that drove the movement

Todays modern American youth are too busy...

texting
snapchatting
Instagraming
tweeting
playing video games
sexting
binge drinking :shock:
and watching Jersey Shore :fp:

To get involved in anything even close to what the youth were involved in in the 60s
:nono:

They're really much too immature to care about anything other than themselves and their drama. The ones to get angry are us older ones.

I think you guys are generalizing way too much. There are a LOT of young people who care.
Also, you're just sounding like every other generation sounds when they are getting old and talking about how the youth are going to hell in a hand basket. This time it's not rock and roll, but, rather, their newfangled gadgets.

Godfather.

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Other than the civil rights movement (which was a big one), what else got accomplished by marching and protesting in the '60's?

the war in vietnam....the protest was so great that ending the war was a hell of a bargining chip for the presidental elections "I am not a crook"

oh and who can forget "tune in turn on and tune out"


Godfather.

Last-12-Exit

Godfather. wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Other than the civil rights movement (which was a big one), what else got accomplished by marching and protesting in the '60's?

the war in vietnam....the protest was so great that ending the war was a hell of a bargining chip for the presidental elections "I am not a crook"

oh and who can forget "tune in turn on and tune out"


Godfather.

The Vietnam war may be an argument not to waste your time protesting. How long did the war go on? It took what, 7 years of protesting? I believe it had a lower approval rating than our second war with Iraq.

Godfather.

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Other than the civil rights movement (which was a big one), what else got accomplished by marching and protesting in the '60's?

the war in vietnam....the protest was so great that ending the war was a hell of a bargining chip for the presidental elections "I am not a crook"

oh and who can forget "tune in turn on and tune out"


Godfather.

The Vietnam war may be an argument not to waste your time protesting. How long did the war go on? It took what, 7 years of protesting? I believe it had a lower approval rating than our second war with Iraq.

so then if we think about it,other than personal satisfaction what good has any protest done ? it seems that protester are watched and what they are protesting becomes a bargining chip and used when it is most needed not just because the people want it,seems the government will use what ever it is that a group of people want for trading and I have a feeling they never loose.
I'm having a heck of time trying to put my thoughts to words but I hope you somewhat understand what Im trying to say.
Godfather.

PJ_Soul

Godfather. wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

the war in vietnam....the protest was so great that ending the war was a hell of a bargining chip for the presidental elections "I am not a crook"

oh and who can forget "tune in turn on and tune out"


Godfather.

The Vietnam war may be an argument not to waste your time protesting. How long did the war go on? It took what, 7 years of protesting? I believe it had a lower approval rating than our second war with Iraq.

so then if we think about it,other than personal satisfaction what good has any protest done ? it seems that protester are watched and what they are protesting becomes a bargining chip and used when it is most needed not just because the people want it,seems the government will use what ever it is that a group of people want for trading and I have a feeling they never loose.
I'm having a heck of time trying to put my thoughts to words but I hope you somewhat understand what Im trying to say.
Godfather.

I know of a LOT of protests that accomplished something. Maybe not so much protests about things as huge as a massive war. But plenty of issues have been influenced by public protests, at least in Canada. I'm sure if you guys thought about it, you could think of many issues where protests helped in the US too. I hope you do, because if everyone is starting to think of protest as useless, that is a terrible sign of apathy (and apathy blamed on a falsehood).

Last-12-Exit

I dont think protesting is useless. It's as one of our most important rights. I really don't think my generation is lazy when it comes to protesting. I think my generation does use current technology to protest instead of physically marching. That doesn't make us lazy or any less effective for that matter.

Jeanwah

Godfather. wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Other than the civil rights movement (which was a big one), what else got accomplished by marching and protesting in the '60's?

the war in vietnam....the protest was so great that ending the war was a hell of a bargining chip for the presidental elections "I am not a crook"

oh and who can forget "tune in turn on and tune out"


Godfather.

You mean "Tune in, turn on, drop out".

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... drop%20out

A term coined by Timothy Leary to describe the psychedelic experience. Leary explains it in his book Flashbacks as such

“Turn on’ meant go within to activate your neural and genetic equipment. Become sensitive to the many and various levels of consciousness and the specific triggers that engage them. Drugs were one way to accomplish this end. ‘Tune in’ meant interact harmoniously with the world around you – externalize, materialize, express your new internal perspectives. Drop out suggested an elective, selective, graceful process of detachment from involuntary or unconscious commitments. ‘Drop Out’ meant self-reliance, a discovery of one’s singularity, a commitment to mobility, choice, and change. Unhappily my explanations of this sequence of personal development were often misinterpreted to mean ‘Get stoned and abandon all constructive activity.”

Godfather.

Jeanwah wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Other than the civil rights movement (which was a big one), what else got accomplished by marching and protesting in the '60's?

the war in vietnam....the protest was so great that ending the war was a hell of a bargining chip for the presidental elections "I am not a crook"

oh and who can forget "tune in turn on and tune out"


Godfather.

You mean "Tune in, turn on, drop out".

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... drop%20out

A term coined by Timothy Leary to describe the psychedelic experience. Leary explains it in his book Flashbacks as such

“Turn on’ meant go within to activate your neural and genetic equipment. Become sensitive to the many and various levels of consciousness and the specific triggers that engage them. Drugs were one way to accomplish this end. ‘Tune in’ meant interact harmoniously with the world around you – externalize, materialize, express your new internal perspectives. Drop out suggested an elective, selective, graceful process of detachment from involuntary or unconscious commitments. ‘Drop Out’ meant self-reliance, a discovery of one’s singularity, a commitment to mobility, choice, and change. Unhappily my explanations of this sequence of personal development were often misinterpreted to mean ‘Get stoned and abandon all constructive activity.”

thanks Jeanwah.....maybe I tuned in too many times.

Godfather.

Jeanwah

Godfather. wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

the war in vietnam....the protest was so great that ending the war was a hell of a bargining chip for the presidental elections "I am not a crook"

oh and who can forget "tune in turn on and tune out"


Godfather.

You mean "Tune in, turn on, drop out".

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... drop%20out

A term coined by Timothy Leary to describe the psychedelic experience. Leary explains it in his book Flashbacks as such

“Turn on’ meant go within to activate your neural and genetic equipment. Become sensitive to the many and various levels of consciousness and the specific triggers that engage them. Drugs were one way to accomplish this end. ‘Tune in’ meant interact harmoniously with the world around you – externalize, materialize, express your new internal perspectives. Drop out suggested an elective, selective, graceful process of detachment from involuntary or unconscious commitments. ‘Drop Out’ meant self-reliance, a discovery of one’s singularity, a commitment to mobility, choice, and change. Unhappily my explanations of this sequence of personal development were often misinterpreted to mean ‘Get stoned and abandon all constructive activity.”

thanks Jeanwah.....maybe I tuned in too many times.

Godfather.

Or tuned out.

g under p

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Do we have to wear bell bottom pants again?

Oh don't forget the marshmallow shoes and the Afro look.

It seems these days the only thing that moves a movement is MONEY. Money seems to drive what will or won't be done not necessarily protests in front of the White House. I've done my share of protests in DC and NYC and just seem like not much was accomplished other than a few noticing that we were pissed at let's say the war in Iraq.

Peace

STAYSEA

A few months ago I signed a petition to a person in congress.

She actually sent me an email back?
It was something about Wal Mart and recycling. The kid that went door to door apparently got so many people to respond. The Bill was passed.

Here, there is that activism button on the top between Forum and Shop. Nothing there has interested me.
Jack Johnson has an activism site and I get emails.

A few months ago I ordered a key chain from ten club. I got this Global Citizen.org button in the same package. So I joined. I get loads of emails every week. The movements seem to be online these days.

I find it difficult to try to help everything. So I focus more on local things. It's the only way I feel I make an impact.

Twitter is a really easy way to start something if you are lazy.

The movement is digital.?

....the zero tolerance policy on discrimination.... So we all had to make peace and eat Chick-fil-A together. Turned out to be really fun.

brianlux

AndyVanSlyke wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Violence, bombs, death, guns killing people, hatred, violence toward women, violence toward children, prejudice, shootings, rape, killing, racism, torture, bigotry, sexism, hatred...

We fought against these kinds of things in the 60's and apparently all of that got us nowhere.

Where's the movement? We need to start it up again.

What do you mean? Young people do protest by liking things on Facebook :fp:

^This and the "bell bottoms."

At a time like this, humor is also most welcome!

And yes, fun is best part of any movement. That why we have soundtracks to life.

STAYSEA

The vitalogy fund seems the most interesting of the PJ activism

As board members of the foundation, the members of Pearl Jam allocate Vitalogy Foundation funds to a number of non-profit organizations that they personally select.

It's community based and 2 dollars of every ticket sold goes to those charities. Most are for children.

I wouldn't mind knowing more. HMMM

Brian just started a move ment.

I did click on it. :thumbup: