DHS buys 7000 assault rifles, as 'personal defense weapons'

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  • http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02 ... y-bullets/

    Here's the official response on the ammo purchase.

    I liked Cosmo's answer better.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Bottom line... if the Government wants to take your guns... WHICH THEY AREN'T... they can.
    ...
    If you want to fend them off... you will need more than an AR-15 and 10,000 rounds of ammo. You will need some sort of anti-aircraft batteries or Stinger Misslies or something.
    And if you are in possession of a Stinger Missile and NOT in the active military or its reserve on active duty... you seriously need to be taken out by the government because only fucking psychos personally own Stinger Missiles... and keep them int their homes.
    And don't worry... the Government is not going to actually take your weapons 'from your cold, dead hands'... they are going to set the building you are in on fire and let you shoot yourself or burn in the flames.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,714
    Cosmo wrote:
    Bottom line... if the Government wants to take your guns... WHICH THEY AREN'T... they can.
    ...
    If you want to fend them off... you will need more than an AR-15 and 10,000 rounds of ammo. You will need some sort of anti-aircraft batteries or Stinger Misslies or something.
    And if you are in possession of a Stinger Missile and NOT in the active military or its reserve on active duty... you seriously need to be taken out by the government because only fucking psychos personally own Stinger Missiles... and keep them int their homes.
    And don't worry... the Government is not going to actually take your weapons 'from your cold, dead hands'... they are going to set the building you are in on fire and let you shoot yourself or burn in the flames.
    then they will take your guns from your still smoldering, kinda still hot dead hands.
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  • They have requested a shitload of bullets recently, for sure.
    Training or not, whose to say.
    I will say this...
    I find it VERY hard to believe that SOCIAL SECURITY FRAUD INVESTIGATORS NEED HOLLOW POINT BULLETS?
    Wtf???
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    They have requested a shitload of bullets recently, for sure.
    Training or not, whose to say.
    I will say this...
    I find it VERY hard to believe that SOCIAL SECURITY FRAUD INVESTIGATORS NEED HOLLOW POINT BULLETS?
    Wtf???
    ...
    Off hand, does it state what the allotment and type of bullet (used for which type of weapon) are being distributed to the 295 Social Security agents?
    I'm looking up the types of weapons these agents are issued.
    Thanx.

    Found this:
    "As we said in a recent post, our office has criminal investigators, or special agents, who are responsible for investigating violations of the laws that govern SSA’s programs. Currently, about 295 special agents and supervisory special agents work in 66 offices across the United States. These investigators have full law enforcement authority, including executing search warrants and making arrests."
    ref. http://oig.ssa.gov/newsroom/blog/2012/0 ... rocurement

    The standard issue is (i believeto be) the Sig Sauer P229 .357. i'm not sure how you feel, but if I'm supposed to execute search warrants and make arrests... I want to be armed. You never know what's on the other side of that door, right?

    Also, I'm pretty sure that the 295 agents are not each getting 54,237,289 bullets.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Let's do the math:
    "Dixon said one of the contracts would allow Homeland Security to buy up to 750 million rounds of ammunition over the next five years for its training facilities. The rounds are used for basic and advanced law enforcement training for federal law enforcement agencies under the department's umbrella. The facilities also offer firearms training to tens of thousands of federal law enforcement officers. More than 90 federal agencies and 70,000 agents and officers used the department's training center last year. "
    Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02 ... y-bullets/

    750,000,000 / 5 (years) = 150,000,000 bullets per year (total).
    150,000,000 / 70,000 (agents) = 2,124 bullets per agent per year.
    ...
    So, each agent gets an allotment of 2,124 rounds per year for their for trainning (target practice).
    I know, that sounds like a lot... 2,000 rounds of ammo. But, consider the amount you would spend at the trainning center... if your job is law enforcement.
    It comes out to 41.2 bullets per week (2,124 / 52 (weeks))... P229 have what... 10 round clips? 4 clips at the range if you go every week.
    Now, I don't know about you... but, the times I've gone to the pistol range... 42 bullets go awfully fast. I suppose if I went every week... 42 rounds should be enough.
    How many rounds to you pop off at the range?
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