DHS buys 7000 assault rifles, as 'personal defense weapons'
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DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and / or when maximum concealment is required.]
andThe scope of this contract is to provide a total of up to 7,000 5.56x45mm North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) personal defense weapons (PDW) throughout the life of this contract to numerous Department of Homeland Security components.
Hey.
Johnny America, you can't be trusted with a SEMI-Auto, but TRUST us with 7,000 FULL AUTO ASSAULT RIFLES ON YOUR STREETS. We're keeping you safe!
Actual Contract Here Scroll down, and download "section C", it's in plain black and white ink in the very first sentence in the very first paragraph on the page.
Story below from NaturalNews.Com
DHS buys 7000 full-auto assault rifles, calls them 'personal defense weapons'
(NaturalNews) In yet another huge blow to the rhetoric and narrative of the Obama administration and its desire to disarm the American public, a DHS bid has been uncovered (see documents below) showing that the Department of Homeland Security recently put out an offer to purchase 7,000 full-auto "assault weapons" to be used domestically, inside the USA.
Keep in mind that President Obama is on the record saying, "AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals; that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities."
But it seems he really means they don't belong on the streets of our cities unless they are in the hands of homeland security enforcers, in which case they can be FULL-AUTO assault weapons.
The DHS bid for 7,000 full-auto assault weapons is found by clicking here. The original credit for discovering this goes, to my best knowledge, to Awr Hawkins at Breitbart.com.
In the hands of the government, they're called "Personal Defense Weapons"
The juiciest part of this bid is the use of the phrase "Personal Defense Weapons" to describe the full-auto AR-15s being purchased by DHS.
Apparently, when YOU hold an AR-15, it's an "assault rifle." But magically, if you hand that same rifle to an armed government homeland security enforcer, it instantly transforms itself into a "personal defense weapon."
The request for bid actually says:
DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and / or when maximum concealment is required.
So there it is, right in black and white: DHS enforcers need full-auto AR-15s which are "suitable for personal defense in close quarters" and for "maximum concealment."
But if you or I make the same claim, suddenly we are branded lunatics by the fringe left and all the gun grabbers across America who apparently have no clue that their own government is arming up like never before.
Senator Feinstein, the gun-grabbing Senator from California, says she wants to take all the guns from all Americans. "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in," she says on the record. But while Mr. and Mrs. America are turning in their guns, 'roid-head DHS goons are arming to the teeth with full-auto assault rifles.
This is all on top of the 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition the U.S. government has already stockpiled, as was discovered last year. What kind of government wants to domestically stockpile ammo and full-auto weapons, putting them in the hands of domestic agents who have nothing whatsoever to do with overseas wars? Well, the kind of government that plans to NEED 1.6 billion rounds of ammo and full-auto assault weapons, of course.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038844_DHS_a ... z2JKGidHsL
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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Government hypocrisy knows no bounds.
What do they have to be so afraid of? Some rednecks that like to hunt?
Sersiously? :fp:
You can't possibly be that stupid :nono:
This is apples and oranges
You will find little or no complaint from those who don't see the need for the average American to own a semi-auto assault weapon about DHS buying full auto for its staff.
And no real hunter hunts with an AR-15
:corn:
Okay.
Who is Homeland Security intending to blanket spray with 30 round magazines and god-knows-what-fire-rate weapons?
This starts getting a little dicey for the average liberal, i'm guessing.
They are either forced to say something that wrecks their cause outright like:
"duh, illegal immigrants, or drugs lords coming over our ... uh ... totally unenforced southern border."
or
something totally "looney tunes" by their own assertions, like:
"duh. the Chinese army, when they come with their ground invasion to secure collateral on their massive pile of worthless treasury bills that they have been buying for years."
or
something even less explicable with liberal logic, like:
"duh. They need these fully automatic machine guns to mow down rebelling Americans when the shit hits the fan, and people get pissed off at the government."
What of ANY of those scenarios makes sense to anyone of the "enlightened" folks on this board?
The ONLY possible excuse i can think of coming from folks around here for why DHS should need MACHINE GUNS is "in case of a natural disaster, or some huge emergency. They need them to protect the general public from looters and rioters and what not."
Now ask yourself, what scenario do you ever see DHS, in a natural disaster or emergency situation, needing to open up with MACHINE GUNS set to FULL AUTO spraying and praying on a crowd of people?
I thought using Liberal Logic you needed LESS THAN TEN BULLETS (in a magazine) for "SELF DEFENSE" against a "perp". How many "perps" do they plan on pray-and-spraying at once?
???
If I opened it now would you not understand?
and no real american thinks the 2nd Amendment is for hunting.
Even though our President just came out and said he "respects the tradition of hunting" in this country. (you know, after his, as he assures us - quite regular - skeet shooting spectacle as of late)
:fp: :fp: :fp:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
The irony here is hilarious. Have you ever asked yourself similar questions?
In the same fashion, what scenarios can you describe that justify someone owning such a gun?
Is this one of the scenarios you think are really real? The one where the government meets in hooded cloaks in secret and devises a plan to disarm the citizens of assault rifles so that they can attack them and enslave them?
I can't own such a gun.
That's foregone.
The intent here is to show that while the government is clamping down on your right to own ANY type of reasonable DEFENSE AGAINST SUCH WEAPONS
(ie. I can NOT own a machine gun. they already TOOK those from us. but i SHOULD be able to own a semi-auto in defense of government tyranny. Thats not irony. thats not crackpot. THATS WHY THE AMENDMENT WAS WRITTEN.)
THEY THEMSELVES ARE BUSY STOCKING UP ON MUCH STRONGER WEAPONS.
Why?
You are answering my question with (what you perceive as a quite) humorous questions in rhetort.
Yet you fail to answer the question in earnest.
Why does Department of Homeland Security need FULL AUTO MACHINE GUNS?
Who are they worried they need to mow down?
Why do you need to laugh at me for asking that question?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
really?
You're afraid of a tyrannical govt?
Do you live in a 3rd world country?
:fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:
and i'm not a buyer for the Army... but, I'm pretty sure the Army buys a shitload of M-16s... some of them look like this:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3457/3880651618_4f0aed7fbd_z.jpg
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I can't believe you guys didn't know that.
Hail, Hail!!!
Well if the DHS and the U.S Army and the U.S Navy and the U.S. Air Force and the U.S. Marines and the U.S. Coast Guard and the U.S. Merchant Marines have them
well shouldn't the average American???
:fp: :fp:
What is your point, Cosmo?
This isn't for "The US ARMY"
This is for "DEPARTMENT OF ***HOMELAND*** SECURITY"
???
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Your people who uphold the law and try to keep you safe should have the biggest and baddest weapons. Let's give them that advantage and roll the dice that there is no major conspiracy to get everyone.
I don't find that funny, or facepalm worthy.
it is in the constitution because legitimate and highly intelligent men were worried about it.
its something that can happen over a long period of time. One of the great themes of great conspiracies is "gradualism". Have you ever heard the phrase "a descent in to tyranny". Thats what happens. You slowly DECEND in to tyranny. First people have to be convinced to willingly give up their most precious rights. Then after their most precious rights are gone, they can be pressured in to giving up more. After that, they have but little say in the matter.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
But there is a major conspiracy ...the African muslim president is going to bring in the blue helmets to take away everyones guns
d'uh!!
sure, sure. it's funny.
I would be less concerned about the allegation that he is an african muslim, than i am about the fact and nature of the poltical class and groups he represents, the too-big-to-fail banks that bankrolled the fuck out of his first run for office, and the cloistered interests he *really* works for. *Maybe* they mean well, but they play a dangerous game.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
What's next?
You tell us about ZOG
The New World Order?
The Rothschilds?
The 3rd gunman on the hill?
No man landing on the moon?
Don't forget about Lord Voldemort. That guy sucks with his stupid little stick always zapping guys.
You mean like this?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Both are 'The Government'. The government buys a ton of fucking guns... from 9mm sidearms to Uzis to M-16A4s to TOW missile launchers to M1A-1 Abrams Tanks to AH-64 Longbows Gunships to F-22 Raptors to B-2 Bombers to Airborne Lasers Weapons to W-80-1 170 kiloton nuclear warheads.
If you are going to do something that gets the government that pissed off... the last thing you should be worrying about is Homeland Security. And Homeland Security and Homeland Defense includes 187 federal agencies and departments, including the United States National Guard, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the United States Coast Guard, Customs and Border Protection, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, the United States Secret Service, the Transportation Security Administration, the 14 agencies that constitute the U.S. intelligence community and Civil Air Patrol.
Hail, Hail!!!
fair point cosmo. fair point.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Refreshing. Makes you more credible, Drifting... to acknowledge something that needs to be acknowledged. Many do not and it makes these boards unbearable at times: no discussion- only yelling over each other.
d'uh!!
sure, sure. it's funny.
I would be less concerned about the allegation that he is an african muslim, than i am about the fact and nature of the poltical class and groups he represents, the too-big-to-fail banks that bankrolled the fuck out of his first run for office, and the cloistered interests he *really* works for. *Maybe* they mean well, but they play a dangerous game.[/quote]
What's next?
You tell us about ZOG
The New World Order?
The Rothschilds?
The 3rd gunman on the hill?
No man landing on the moon?[/quote]
yes EXACTLY like that!!!
Lol.
You can get banned for falsifying quotes on this board (i have been, i know), but funny. lol.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Seriously?
But FoxNews does it all the time
Sorry... please check again. The U.S. Coast Guard as well as the U.S. Secret Service fall under the umbrella of the Dept. of Homeland Security. And don't forget the U.S. Border Patrol. All of those agencies already have access to military weapons (check out the .50 cal at the bow of Coast Guard interceptors).
http://yachtcaptainblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/DSC00589.jpg
The U.S. Secret Service are armed with H&K MP5s
and FN P90s
Here is part of the U.S. Border Patrol's arsenal:
"Border Patrol Agents also commonly carry the .223 caliber M4 Carbine and the H&K UMP .40 caliber submachine gun. The .308 caliber M14 rifle is used for mostly ceremonial purposes and by BORTAC in special situations."
ref. http://www.borderagent.us/equipment-use ... ol-agents/
In case you are wondering... this is an M4 Carbine:
This is an H&K UMP:
http://clydearmory.com/media/catalog/pr ... ump_40.jpg
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I understand the desire to spread irrational fear that the TSA agents at the airport will now be armed with M-16s and strip searching us at gunpoint... but, sorry, that is not the case. Just because you want to pretend something is true, doesn't mean it's true.
Apology accepted.
Hail, Hail!!!
Why is this administration stocking up on hollow point bullets that have been “illegal in international warfare since 1899.”
one has to wonder if we aren't approaching the well-trained paramilitary national police force mentioned by Obama?
Jan. 1, 2012 Congress declared America a battlefield with the passage of the NDAA 2012.
In a battlefield you have no rights. The government stepped across the line of departure with that act, 96 senators voted for the “battlefield” designation.
The National Defense Authorization Act, or S. 1867, isn’t a slap in the face to our Constitution – it’s the killing blow.
The bill’s text, in its infinite vagaries and self-contradictions, subtly allows the government to arrest American citizens on American soil and hold them indefinitely and without trial or any form of due process – all on the pretense of being an amorphously-defined “enemy combatant”. Authored by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) and Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich), the bill was passed in the Senate 93-7 on Dec. 1st without amendment.
a prudent person should wonder if something nefarious is afoot.
Despite the ban on military use, hollow-point bullets are one of the most common types of civilian and police ammunition,[citation needed] due largely to the reduced risk of bystanders being hit by over-penetrating or ricocheted bullets, and the increased speed of incapacitation.
In many jurisdictions, even ones such as the United Kingdom, where expanding ammunition is generally prohibited, it is illegal to hunt certain types of game with ammunition that does not expand.[4][5] Some target ranges forbid full metal jacket ammunition, due to its greater tendency to damage metal targets and backstops.[6]
— Socrates
Odd again to see the blurb mention FMJ being prohibited at some firing ranges -- I've never been to one that allowed anything else, due to the risk of lead exposure in semi-jacketed rounds.