I shoudn't post this, but I am eating lunch and bored

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,799
    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather
    so please tell me how out sourcing is good for the working man or woman in THIS country?
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  • Go Beavers
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    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather

    Like the pictures, that's a little dramatic. How do you think we survived the last 4 years?
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather

    You mean higher taxes on the rich, like 39.6%...the same it was under Clinton when 22 million jobs were created?
    We have had the Bush tax cuts in place for a decade. How many jobs were created under Bush. Use the google machine to find an answer.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    whygohome wrote:
    oh the Eagle... that is precious :D
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    most business arent starting up or leaving the country because of any human being or policy
    most companys pay very little in taxes, have an abundance of cheap skilled labor and have very little employee benefits expense
    they dont thrive because 1-people cant afford to buy their goods or services 2-credit is maxed or dried up 3-have no confidence in the future
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    JC29856 wrote:
    most business arent starting up or leaving the country because of any human being or policy
    most companys pay very little in taxes, have an abundance of cheap skilled labor and have very little employee benefits expense
    they dont thrive because 1-people cant afford to buy their goods or services 2-credit is maxed or dried up 3-have no confidence in the future

    4. They can pay someone in the Philippines or Vietnam a buck an hour instead of offering living wages to American workers.
  • Godfather.
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    mickeyrat wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather
    so please tell me how out sourcing is good for the working man or woman in THIS country?

    it's not but that's what will happen as taxes rise.

    Godfather.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,884
    I'm wondering, when everyone is praising Clinton...do you all remember the Dot Com boom....and then the bubble busting?

    Just saying, not all rosy and some screwy numbers. In 1999 alone, the DOt Com boom created almost 1 million jobs....they didnt stick around too long. Sometimes, it;'s better to be lucky (president at the right time) then good. ;)

    It wasn;t all bad, but we seem to give him a complete pass.
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  • Cosmo
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    Godfather. wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather
    so please tell me how out sourcing is good for the working man or woman in THIS country?

    it's not but that's what will happen as taxes rise.

    Godfather.
    ...
    So... what WILL happen?
    Just wondering.
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  • Godfather.
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    Go Beavers wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather

    Like the pictures, that's a little dramatic. How do you think we survived the last 4 years?

    ask the unemployeed or the thousands and thousands that lost their homes and evertthing else.

    Godfather.
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    I'm wondering, when everyone is praising Clinton...do you all remember the Dot Com boom....and then the bubble busting?

    Just saying, not all rosy and some screwy numbers. In 1999 alone, the DOt Com boom created almost 1 million jobs....they didnt stick around too long. Sometimes, it;'s better to be lucky (president at the right time) then good. ;)

    It wasn;t all bad, but we seem to give him a complete pass.


    The internet killed many jobs and that happened under W, it was not his fault so i see your point.
  • whygohome
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    Godfather. wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather

    Like the pictures, that's a little dramatic. How do you think we survived the last 4 years?

    ask the unemployeed or the thousands and thousands that lost their homes and evertthing else.

    Godfather.

    And when did this happen?
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    I'm wondering, when everyone is praising Clinton...do you all remember the Dot Com boom....and then the bubble busting?

    Just saying, not all rosy and some screwy numbers. In 1999 alone, the DOt Com boom created almost 1 million jobs....they didnt stick around too long. Sometimes, it;'s better to be lucky (president at the right time) then good. ;)

    It wasn;t all bad, but we seem to give him a complete pass.

    You can't say that we didn't have a good economy under Clinton
  • brianlux
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    Go Beavers wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather

    Like the pictures, that's a little dramatic. How do you think we survived the last 4 years?

    Exactly my reaction. Ok, I get it that people are unhappy when their candidate loses but we've also heard so many people who don't like Obama say "We can't have more of the same for four years," but these same people survived the last four years and now talk as though they want to jump off a bridge. I felt hugely bummed when W was re-elected but I never thought about killing myself or leaving the country because I knew the government is made up of more than one person and I highly suspect (well, know, really) that one person does not really run the whole show.

    Take a deep breath, GF. Life will go on as normal. I've said it before, it's time to get past the election and start working on the problems before us. And we have some doozies and on some of them, time is running short.
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  • Go Beavers
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    Godfather. wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather

    Like the pictures, that's a little dramatic. How do you think we survived the last 4 years?

    ask the unemployeed or the thousands and thousands that lost their homes and evertthing else.

    Godfather.

    There's already been a zillion 'what's Obama's fault, what's not his fault' threads, so I guess if your conclusion is that's it's Obama's fault, there's not much we can do here.
  • Godfather.
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    Cosmo just wait man,I hope obama makes wise choices but if he goes in the direction he is now I think we could be in deep shit.

    Godfather.
  • Cosmo
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    I'm wondering, when everyone is praising Clinton...do you all remember the Dot Com boom....and then the bubble busting?

    Just saying, not all rosy and some screwy numbers. In 1999 alone, the DOt Com boom created almost 1 million jobs....they didnt stick around too long. Sometimes, it;'s better to be lucky (president at the right time) then good. ;)

    It wasn;t all bad, but we seem to give him a complete pass.
    ...
    Remember who lost money in that gamble? Day-traders... part-time investors sitting in their cubicles at work and buying stocks on speculation. Speculators that paid huge amounts for stocks in companies whose business plan was to sell and deliver gourmet desserts 24 hours a day.. over the Internet.
    Remember who made billions of dollars in that period? The big trading house... professional traders that knew there were millions of fucking morons spending their life savings on pets.com stock.
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  • vant0037
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    Godfather. wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather
    so please tell me how out sourcing is good for the working man or woman in THIS country?

    it's not but that's what will happen as taxes rise.

    Godfather.

    And then that person who was forced to send jobs overseas because of high taxes here will be simultaneously grooming himself to be a presidential candidate?
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  • mickeyrat
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    Godfather. wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    they are the only people that realize the trouble this country is in now that obama has 4 more years to fuck it up...he will probably start by chassing business out of the country with higher taxes or just letting the ones that can't out source crumble and the people that they employ will hurt as well......yeahhh obama was a brilliant choice :roll:

    Godfather
    so please tell me how out sourcing is good for the working man or woman in THIS country?

    it's not but that's what will happen as taxes rise.

    Godfather.
    while I would agree much of it had to do with the tech bubble, we had high taxes during Clinton , enough to eventually run a budget surplus. Jobs were plentiful.

    Bush gets in office offers the tax cut, the rebate, goes to two unpaid for wars with no endgame to get out of them, jobs grow scarce and the economy tanks just prior to his departure. Hits bottom some months after he's back in Texas.

    Current repubs ( safely in their uncompetitive districts) see this as "not a mandate to raise taxes".


    I say fuck it, lets go over the cliff. MAJOR reset.

    But then bills will be passed to reduce taxes making the bastards on both sides look like heros.

    I hope OUR Pres grows some balls and plays hard ass.
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