I shoudn't post this, but I am eating lunch and bored
whygohome
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whygohome
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Godfather
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Like the pictures, that's a little dramatic. How do you think we survived the last 4 years?
You mean higher taxes on the rich, like 39.6%...the same it was under Clinton when 22 million jobs were created?
We have had the Bush tax cuts in place for a decade. How many jobs were created under Bush. Use the google machine to find an answer.
most companys pay very little in taxes, have an abundance of cheap skilled labor and have very little employee benefits expense
they dont thrive because 1-people cant afford to buy their goods or services 2-credit is maxed or dried up 3-have no confidence in the future
4. They can pay someone in the Philippines or Vietnam a buck an hour instead of offering living wages to American workers.
it's not but that's what will happen as taxes rise.
Godfather.
Just saying, not all rosy and some screwy numbers. In 1999 alone, the DOt Com boom created almost 1 million jobs....they didnt stick around too long. Sometimes, it;'s better to be lucky (president at the right time) then good.
It wasn;t all bad, but we seem to give him a complete pass.
So... what WILL happen?
Just wondering.
Hail, Hail!!!
ask the unemployeed or the thousands and thousands that lost their homes and evertthing else.
Godfather.
The internet killed many jobs and that happened under W, it was not his fault so i see your point.
And when did this happen?
You can't say that we didn't have a good economy under Clinton
Exactly my reaction. Ok, I get it that people are unhappy when their candidate loses but we've also heard so many people who don't like Obama say "We can't have more of the same for four years," but these same people survived the last four years and now talk as though they want to jump off a bridge. I felt hugely bummed when W was re-elected but I never thought about killing myself or leaving the country because I knew the government is made up of more than one person and I highly suspect (well, know, really) that one person does not really run the whole show.
Take a deep breath, GF. Life will go on as normal. I've said it before, it's time to get past the election and start working on the problems before us. And we have some doozies and on some of them, time is running short.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
There's already been a zillion 'what's Obama's fault, what's not his fault' threads, so I guess if your conclusion is that's it's Obama's fault, there's not much we can do here.
Godfather.
Remember who lost money in that gamble? Day-traders... part-time investors sitting in their cubicles at work and buying stocks on speculation. Speculators that paid huge amounts for stocks in companies whose business plan was to sell and deliver gourmet desserts 24 hours a day.. over the Internet.
Remember who made billions of dollars in that period? The big trading house... professional traders that knew there were millions of fucking morons spending their life savings on pets.com stock.
Hail, Hail!!!
And then that person who was forced to send jobs overseas because of high taxes here will be simultaneously grooming himself to be a presidential candidate?
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Bush gets in office offers the tax cut, the rebate, goes to two unpaid for wars with no endgame to get out of them, jobs grow scarce and the economy tanks just prior to his departure. Hits bottom some months after he's back in Texas.
Current repubs ( safely in their uncompetitive districts) see this as "not a mandate to raise taxes".
I say fuck it, lets go over the cliff. MAJOR reset.
But then bills will be passed to reduce taxes making the bastards on both sides look like heros.
I hope OUR Pres grows some balls and plays hard ass.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Godfather.
Like what? What decision is he going to make that will lead us to the thousand years of darkness Mr. and Mrs. Chuck Norris warned us of?
and he can do that... all by himself? Did we vote Obama in a God's replacement?
What direction are you warning us of?
I'd really like to know.... really.
Hail, Hail!!!
really you need a friggin blueprint man ? telll ya what lets just watch for a few years...maybe sooner.
Godfather.
Not a blueprint or detailed synopsis... just WHAT am I supposed to be watching out for?
Hail, Hail!!!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Godfather.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Seriously... because when Obama took office in 2009... my 401k ahd been in a violent downward spiral since 2007. It continued to go downward, but, as a rational human being, I knew it was inertia driving it and it wasn't even close to hitting bottom.
But, it did. My 401K is doing a lot better today, even with the 400 point drop in the past couple of days. But, as a rational human being, i understand that there are many variables in the stock market... with the presidential election being one of many.
We we losing tons of jobs beginning in 2007, too. We continued to lose jobs as the housing markets and business related to home construction vaporized... but, we saved the American auto industry. Sure, it was a huge cost, but what would the impact be today if GM and Chrysler went under, dumping all of those people into the ranks of the unemployed? Would that have been better?
That's why I don't understand the whole 'Direction' thing. We were in a nose dive and even though we aren't back to where we were... we have at least, leveled off.
...
Is it all rosey? Not close... but, it's a hell of a lot better than it was heading.
Hail, Hail!!!
It took us going to war in 1941 after 1929 crash to really get moving. with tons of psending on public works projects in th emix too.
Did anyone REALLY think we would get out of this mess that quickly? in less than 4 years?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14