Question for people whose native language isn't English

DS1119

Leezestarr313 wrote:

And by the way, DS - 4 years of Latin should enable you to learn Roman languages like Spanish, French or Italian faster and easier, cause Latin is the root language of all of them. I had to learn Latin at school as well, for 5 years, and I think this is part of why I get along with all those languages somehow, even though I never really learned all of them (except of French, which I took at school and also university).

People have told me this. I'd love to learn Spanish because I think it would help me moving forward job wise.

Leezestarr313

DS1119 wrote:

Leezestarr313 wrote:

And by the way, DS - 4 years of Latin should enable you to learn Roman languages like Spanish, French or Italian faster and easier, cause Latin is the root language of all of them. I had to learn Latin at school as well, for 5 years, and I think this is part of why I get along with all those languages somehow, even though I never really learned all of them (except of French, which I took at school and also university).

People have told me this. I'd love to learn Spanish because I think it would help me moving forward job wise.

Well ... Iniciarlo!

he.who.forgets

Interesting thread. :thumbup: DS

DS1119

Leezestarr313 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Leezestarr313 wrote:

And by the way, DS - 4 years of Latin should enable you to learn Roman languages like Spanish, French or Italian faster and easier, cause Latin is the root language of all of them. I had to learn Latin at school as well, for 5 years, and I think this is part of why I get along with all those languages somehow, even though I never really learned all of them (except of French, which I took at school and also university).

People have told me this. I'd love to learn Spanish because I think it would help me moving forward job wise.

Well ... Iniciarlo!

That's Greek to me. :fp:

DS1119

he.who.forgets wrote:

Interesting thread. :thumbup: DS

I have always wondered about this and since this is a worldwide community I wish I posted this sooner. :fp:

Leezestarr313

I had at least one incident where I didn't understand correctly what the talk was about and replied something that didn't match up It was about automatic cars vs. cars with manual transmission, I think.

dimitrispearljam

Leezestarr313 wrote:

I had at least one incident where I didn't understand correctly what the talk was about and replied something that didn't match up .

never happened to me..

redrock

morello wrote:

.....When a word in your native language works better, or you don't know the 2nd language equivalent we would just use whichever one was better.

Sometimes, if, say I am speaking English and find there is the 'perfect' French expression to express my thoughts, I will have a tendency to translate it, even if it doesn't have the same impact in English! I do dream in 'local' language as well. Depending who is in my dream, the setting, etc. Even if my Dutch is now rusty, I still find myself sometimes dreaming in this language. Somehow in my dreams, my rusty Dutch becomes nearly fluent!

rick1zoo2

dimitrispearljam wrote:

if i dont know the word in english i wanna say and i talk to women i touch them
if i talk to men i slap them..

I need to try this

dimitrispearljam

rick1zoo2 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

if i dont know the word in english i wanna say and i talk to women i touch them
if i talk to men i slap them..

I need to try this

iamica

I have a friend who's first language is Japanese, but now she lives in the United States and is fluent in English. However, she told me that she still thinks and dreams in Japanese. I think it would probably be the same for me if I moved to another country and spoke that language; I'd probably still think in English.
However, when I took Spanish I had quite a few dreams in Spanish, which was funny because I didn't know very much at the time.
Why now u dont languaging?

Suzi78

Very interesting topic! Hmmm...I think it partially depends on how fluent you are in English. When I first moved to the US (from Sweden) 14 years ago, my English was pretty good but I was a bit nervous about making mistakes and I would translate sentences in my head before talking, and in particular before making a phone call. However, I don't remember doing that when reading in English, you just automatically "get it" without translating...well unless there's a word you don't understand. Now after so many years of hearing and speaking English on a daily basis, I do think and dream mostly in English. But that also depends on if I've been speaking more of another language that day, or for a period of time.
I work as a translator and speak 4 other languages and sometimes when I've been working a lot in Italian, I tend to think in Italian. If I speak with a Swedish friend for an hour, I tend to think in Swedish for a while afterwards. The one thing that I've noticed when speaking and working with many different languages is that it can take a few minutes for my brain to switch mode from one language to another.

DS1119

Suzi78 wrote:

Very interesting topic! Hmmm...I think it partially depends on how fluent you are in English. When I first moved to the US (from Sweden) 14 years ago, my English was pretty good but I was a bit nervous about making mistakes and I would translate sentences in my head before talking, and in particular before making a phone call. However, I don't remember doing that when reading in English, you just automatically "get it" without translating...well unless there's a word you don't understand. Now after so many years of hearing and speaking English on a daily basis, I do think and dream mostly in English. But that also depends on if I've been speaking more of another language that day, or for a period of time.
I work as a translator and speak 4 other languages and sometimes when I've been working a lot in Italian, I tend to think in Italian. If I speak with a Swedish friend for an hour, I tend to think in Swedish for a while afterwards. The one thing that I've noticed when speaking and working with many different languages is that it can take a few minutes for my brain to switch mode from one language to another.

This has my mind spinning...but in a good way. :crazy: I couldn't imagine dreaming and having my inner voice in another language. Then again I can only speak one language.

Suzi78

DS1119 wrote:

Suzi78 wrote:

Very interesting topic! Hmmm...I think it partially depends on how fluent you are in English. When I first moved to the US (from Sweden) 14 years ago, my English was pretty good but I was a bit nervous about making mistakes and I would translate sentences in my head before talking, and in particular before making a phone call. However, I don't remember doing that when reading in English, you just automatically "get it" without translating...well unless there's a word you don't understand. Now after so many years of hearing and speaking English on a daily basis, I do think and dream mostly in English. But that also depends on if I've been speaking more of another language that day, or for a period of time.
I work as a translator and speak 4 other languages and sometimes when I've been working a lot in Italian, I tend to think in Italian. If I speak with a Swedish friend for an hour, I tend to think in Swedish for a while afterwards. The one thing that I've noticed when speaking and working with many different languages is that it can take a few minutes for my brain to switch mode from one language to another.

This has my mind spinning...but in a good way. :crazy: I couldn't imagine dreaming and having my inner voice in another language. Then again I can only speak one language.

Haha, ok I'll make your head spin even more...So my dad is Croatian but lives in Sweden, and when we speak I usually speak in Swedish and he speaks Croatian. My mother is Italian, but also speaks Croatian and Swedish and we usually speak Swedish/Italian with some Croatian words mixed in. We understand each other perfectly
I have a few Swedish friends here in the US and we usually speak "Swenglish"...It's like 60% swedish, 30 % English and the rest are just weird words that are mixed. For example in a Swedish sentence I will use an English noun but the article I add to that word is in Swedish.... Or if it's a verb I will use a Swedish past tense ending to an English word. I know makes my :crazy: too sometimes.

DS1119

Suzi78 wrote:

Haha, ok I'll make your head spin even more...So my dad is Croatian but lives in Sweden, and when we speak I usually speak in Swedish and he speaks Croatian. My mother is Italian, but also speaks Croatian and Swedish and we usually speak Swedish/Italian with some Croatian words mixed in. We understand each other perfectly
I have a few Swedish friends here in the US and we usually speak "Swenglish"...It's like 60% swedish, 30 % English and the rest are just weird words that are mixed. For example in a Swedish sentence I will use an English noun but the article I add to that word is in Swedish.... Or if it's a verb I will use a Swedish past tense ending to an English word. I know makes my :crazy: too sometimes.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

he.who.forgets

DS1119 wrote:

Suzi78 wrote:

Haha, ok I'll make your head spin even more...So my dad is Croatian but lives in Sweden, and when we speak I usually speak in Swedish and he speaks Croatian. My mother is Italian, but also speaks Croatian and Swedish and we usually speak Swedish/Italian with some Croatian words mixed in. We understand each other perfectly
I have a few Swedish friends here in the US and we usually speak "Swenglish"...It's like 60% swedish, 30 % English and the rest are just weird words that are mixed. For example in a Swedish sentence I will use an English noun but the article I add to that word is in Swedish.... Or if it's a verb I will use a Swedish past tense ending to an English word. I know makes my :crazy: too sometimes.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

While mind-boggling, DS, you have certainly created the most genuinely interesting thread I've read in quite some time. Bravo to you and Suzi both!

DS1119

he.who.forgets wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Suzi78 wrote:

Haha, ok I'll make your head spin even more...So my dad is Croatian but lives in Sweden, and when we speak I usually speak in Swedish and he speaks Croatian. My mother is Italian, but also speaks Croatian and Swedish and we usually speak Swedish/Italian with some Croatian words mixed in. We understand each other perfectly
I have a few Swedish friends here in the US and we usually speak "Swenglish"...It's like 60% swedish, 30 % English and the rest are just weird words that are mixed. For example in a Swedish sentence I will use an English noun but the article I add to that word is in Swedish.... Or if it's a verb I will use a Swedish past tense ending to an English word. I know makes my :crazy: too sometimes.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

While mind-boggling, DS, you have certainly created the most genuinely interesting thread I've read in quite some time. Bravo to you and Suzi both!

It was the product of being hung over and serious sleep deprivation.

morello

Suzi78 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Suzi78 wrote:

Very interesting topic! Hmmm...I think it partially depends on how fluent you are in English. When I first moved to the US (from Sweden) 14 years ago, my English was pretty good but I was a bit nervous about making mistakes and I would translate sentences in my head before talking, and in particular before making a phone call. However, I don't remember doing that when reading in English, you just automatically "get it" without translating...well unless there's a word you don't understand. Now after so many years of hearing and speaking English on a daily basis, I do think and dream mostly in English. But that also depends on if I've been speaking more of another language that day, or for a period of time.
I work as a translator and speak 4 other languages and sometimes when I've been working a lot in Italian, I tend to think in Italian. If I speak with a Swedish friend for an hour, I tend to think in Swedish for a while afterwards. The one thing that I've noticed when speaking and working with many different languages is that it can take a few minutes for my brain to switch mode from one language to another.

This has my mind spinning...but in a good way. :crazy: I couldn't imagine dreaming and having my inner voice in another language. Then again I can only speak one language.

Haha, ok I'll make your head spin even more...So my dad is Croatian but lives in Sweden, and when we speak I usually speak in Swedish and he speaks Croatian. My mother is Italian, but also speaks Croatian and Swedish and we usually speak Swedish/Italian with some Croatian words mixed in. We understand each other perfectly
I have a few Swedish friends here in the US and we usually speak "Swenglish"...It's like 60% swedish, 30 % English and the rest are just weird words that are mixed. For example in a Swedish sentence I will use an English noun but the article I add to that word is in Swedish.... Or if it's a verb I will use a Swedish past tense ending to an English word. I know makes my :crazy: too sometimes.

I know exactly what you mean about the tense & suffix stuff Suzi. We used to do that(& probably will again when I'm there next month OMG ). Your language knowledge & stuff is amazing though! Wow!!

Leezestarr313

Suzi78 wrote:

Very interesting topic! Hmmm...I think it partially depends on how fluent you are in English. When I first moved to the US (from Sweden) 14 years ago, my English was pretty good but I was a bit nervous about making mistakes and I would translate sentences in my head before talking, and in particular before making a phone call. However, I don't remember doing that when reading in English, you just automatically "get it" without translating...well unless there's a word you don't understand. Now after so many years of hearing and speaking English on a daily basis, I do think and dream mostly in English. But that also depends on if I've been speaking more of another language that day, or for a period of time.
I work as a translator and speak 4 other languages and sometimes when I've been working a lot in Italian, I tend to think in Italian. If I speak with a Swedish friend for an hour, I tend to think in Swedish for a while afterwards. The one thing that I've noticed when speaking and working with many different languages is that it can take a few minutes for my brain to switch mode from one language to another.

Wow! Hey Suzi, let me know if you are interested in translating subtitles - shoot me a pm

redrock

Suzi78 wrote:

I work as a translator .

I did a stint as a simultaneous translator. That was a bit mind boggling... :crazy: