What's has happened to us?
I remember a time when we were anti materlistic and anti corporate. Now we, as fans, have
produced our own corporate materlistic machine. We buy posters for 425 dollars on eBay, we buy
backpacks that are listed on eBay for 500% over retail! Might not be u but it's the guy next to you at shows
or in front of you. But he is a part of us! Now it's tickets. Membership had its privileges, a corporate slogan.
HAD it's priviledges! Now club members who have been members for decades are buying tix with the
GP pool. That's crazy! But this new 10c, you know the ones who flip merch and go to shows to
come on here to compare, de-value and over analyze someones experience has
changed the culture and foundation of which was once an appreciative group who was simply satisfied for getting the shot at one show. That's when membership had its priviledges!!!
Here's an idea for complainers, haters and flippers I purpose we add the back porch as a
an option to the forum! (BTW I am a very satisfied 10c member and appreciate all the work
they have done to make my experiences AWESOME!!)
Peace, Love and Warm Holiday Wishes!!
produced our own corporate materlistic machine. We buy posters for 425 dollars on eBay, we buy
backpacks that are listed on eBay for 500% over retail! Might not be u but it's the guy next to you at shows
or in front of you. But he is a part of us! Now it's tickets. Membership had its privileges, a corporate slogan.
HAD it's priviledges! Now club members who have been members for decades are buying tix with the
GP pool. That's crazy! But this new 10c, you know the ones who flip merch and go to shows to
come on here to compare, de-value and over analyze someones experience has
changed the culture and foundation of which was once an appreciative group who was simply satisfied for getting the shot at one show. That's when membership had its priviledges!!!
Here's an idea for complainers, haters and flippers I purpose we add the back porch as a
an option to the forum! (BTW I am a very satisfied 10c member and appreciate all the work
they have done to make my experiences AWESOME!!)
Peace, Love and Warm Holiday Wishes!!
Hail To the Victors
I refer to those in front...
I refer to those in front...
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That are rich colectors who want's posters and sealed vinyl, there are people who want vinyl to spin it but can't afford it and there are people who just download Ten and that's enough.
We are not one entity. But we all want concert tickets.
12/08/93 - Seattle Center Arena: Seattle, WA 09/16/96 - Key Arena: Seattle, WA
07/21/98 07/22/98- Memorial Stadium: Seattle, WA 11/05/00 - Key Arena: Seattle, WA
10/22/01 - Key Arena: Seattle, WA (Groundwork 2001 Benefit)
12/09/02 - Key Arena: Seattle, WA 03/18/05 – Paramount Theater, Seattle, WA
07/22/06 –George, WA,
09/21/09 09/22/09 - Key Arena, Seattle, WA
09/03/11 09/04/11 Alpine Valley
12/6/2013 Key Arena, Seattle, WA
08/21/2009: Toronto, ON
09/11/2011: Toronto, ON
07/16/2013: London, ON
10/12/2013: Buffalo, NY
10/16/2014: Detroit, MI
05/08/2016: Ottawa, ON
05/10/2016: Toronto, ON
05/12/2016: Toronto, ON
08/20/2016: Chicago, IL
08/22/2016: Chicago, IL
As far as tickets, they really don't play enough shows a year to help keep costs to fans down. I am not sure I can fault them for this. If they only want to play short tours every year, it's their choice. But that means more fans are fighting for the same tickets because they have less choices in which shows they can see.
it will be wrapped in the FLAG and
carrying a CROSS.
I am in the 10C for the vinyl, xmas single and whichever other may appear, tickets as well, but tickets are not the main reason, not my priority, since in 20 years the band came twice to my country, being the first one 6 years ago, and the last one a month ago...
I agree with you that the guy next to you on a concert might be a flipper, so be it, but I don't think I may find a flipper among the 40K who attended any of the Buenos Aires shows, in fact, I don't suscribe to the idea the flippers are fans, they may be, or at least they like PJ, but they are not fans per se, they don't stream PJ radio or take part in the forum, and 50, 40 and especially 20 bucks is very little investment a year to get the chance to have access to stuff they can flip and get a huge profit from it, and weren't it for flippers, traders or the like who list vinyl all over the web, many of us wouldn't get the missing item in our collections...
So I am not different from who I was when I first joined the 10C in 98, and when I came back in 2006, I'm still longing for vinyl, waiting for them to be released, I purchased dvd's randomly, the only one I got at the tieme of release was PJ20, and I don't have them all, and I passed on the backpack, I don't hike, nor trek neither go camping, so I don't need that backpack, and vans kicks were as ugly as they get, and I'm not into posters either, I would have liked to have one from last Buenos Aires show, but they were sold out, and when they told me the price I thought it was ok, I was not going to spend that kind of money on a poster, needless to say I won't spend those prices on the bay for one...
hype! So do we think this is some type of pre meditated push by our 10c brotheren? For clearity
purposes I own two posters and been to several shows. I am truly happy, however I feel a lot folks
are falling victim to those in which we share the porch with!!!
I refer to those in front...
This is rather strange, considering that they got into the bootlegs to ensure that fans wouldn't get ripped off on poor quality products... I'm not so bothered about the bitching about the PJ20 DVD/Blu-ray, the content on the 2nd disc is on iTunes and the movie is just about everywhere. However, the vinyl shortages, I don't get at all.
I get the feeling that being their own label gives them a lot less financial leeway than it would have in the Epic/Sony years.
Alpine Valley 2011-09-03, 2011-09-04
Vinyl (opened or unopened) is just as materialistic as the next thing