California school's to teach glbt history by 2015
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t2
It has drawn criticism from some religious and conservative groups, like the Traditional Values Coalition, a lobby organization that says it speaks on behalf of more than 43,000 churches.
"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.
"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.
you all know where I stand on this issue and you can bet this will cause a fire storm of outrage in a lot of the California schools amung parent's teachers and some students, just my opinion.
It has drawn criticism from some religious and conservative groups, like the Traditional Values Coalition, a lobby organization that says it speaks on behalf of more than 43,000 churches.
"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.
"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.
you all know where I stand on this issue and you can bet this will cause a fire storm of outrage in a lot of the California schools amung parent's teachers and some students, just my opinion.
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
will gay sex be part of the sex ed class?
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
why do religious leaders still think it is a choice to be gay?
indoctrinate...
idiots...these people need to find something else to be mad about.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
maybe the same reason the church leaders don't believe being a ax murder is a choice......ummm that's an interesting thought, is being an ax murder a choice or a uncontrolable urge do to a chemical reaction in the brain ? :think: oly oly oxen free free free.
Godfather.
come man you didn't laugh just a little ?
really I have no idea if it's a choice or not I've never had the urge to sleep with another man.
Godfather.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
They should concentrate on teaching proper apostrophe usage!!!
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
now that wasn't very nice FiveB did you wake up on the wrong side of the back seat today ?
Godfather.
Godfather.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
that's a good point " You (me) justify such ideas but it dosn't mean it's o.k." you may not like this and I mean no offense but you just as everybody else justify your/their thoughts and ideas and stand behind them as true and correct ....now if my thoughts and ideas are not the same as yours who is right and who is wrong ?
you all know my feelings on the gay issue but allowing me the same respect to say how I feel about it does that make my thoughts wrong ? and because of my view on gay issue's I am a bigot and discriminating aginst the gay community ?
Godfather.
depends on what part of the country you are from, I didn't say anything negative about the gay issue or the gay people I don't judge people on on their sexual desires,I don't agree with gay sex or relationships but the bottom line is that people are people...and why is it that every time a issue like this comes up someone here has to bring up the race card...thats always the ez way out for everything when people debate an issue here, kinda week in my opinion.
Godfather.
its similar, they are both biological differences that people discriminate against. So the comparison is pretty valid in this instance.
that is why. And no, it doesn't depend on what part of the country you are from...it is always wrong to discriminate against someone for biological differences. "not agreeing" with "gay sex or relationships" is like not agreeing with someone having one leg shorter than the other, or a lazy eye.
You can feel however you like, but if the way you feel is discriminatory someone is going to call you out on it...as well they should. It isn't ok.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
at my own personal level debate and discrimination are very different.
when FiveB posted a comment saying I was not that smart should I assume he was discriminating aginst anybody with a learning disability ?...get my point ?
Godfather.
no i don't.
People with learning disabilities shouldn't be discriminated against. People who willfully did not pay attention in school and do not want to educate themselves are not suffering from a learning disability. They chose not to learn or learned the material and simply forgot it. Either way, it doesn't matter, it isn't a choice to have dyslexia...not going to school or not paying attention when you are there is a choice. I don't know any clearer way to say it.
Someone should not be discriminated against because of biology.
What is there to debate about biology? You can always call an asshole an asshole no matter their biological make up, but you cannot disagree with homosexuality any more than you can disagree with being white.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
or anybody who is gay ?
Godfather.
Secondly, when is it acceptable to discriminate? The answer is NEVER. But because you think your religion or some other groups of people agree, it makes it a legitimate or opinion of merit - it's not. A racist typically doesn't walk around saying their a racist, but instead proclaims he's just viewing society or people around in a specific manner. That is all this anti-gay nonsense is.. except some use religion or morality or family values or whatever other nonsensical excuse to discriminate. And to further explain the point, it is not simply having an opinion on the matter as is to seek approval of society, but instead these are the reasons why gays don't have the same rights as anyone else in society. That's why it is not simply an opinion of meaningless or a matter of being right/wrong. We are discriminating in our society because of a sexual orientation - that's unacceptable and no different from minorities not being able to vote, or women voting or segregation.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis