Taxes need to be raised AND spending needs to be cut. Anyone who doesn't think both are part of the solution is an idiot, IMO.
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raise the debt celling
raise tax's.......yaah yah that should work and my followers will follow me right off the cliff
Godfather.
what would you do to rectify the current situation? like right now, with the approaching deadline.
Raise the debt ceiling only after the Dems concede to cut everything Pual Ryan wants to- TRILLIONS.
No cuts? Then no raising the debt ceiling. US defaults on debt, sending shockwaves throughout the global economy and spiraling us all into a world of fucked up that nobody has ever seen.
Hang it around Obama's neck and let the Democratic party wither on the vine.
What? Not hopey-changie enough for you? Enough with these treasonist bastards.
raise the debt celling
raise tax's.......yaah yah that should work and my followers will follow me right off the cliff
Godfather.
what would you do to rectify the current situation? like right now, with the approaching deadline.
not my job bro he was elected to make change...I didn't think he would be spot on but I did hope for more
but come on raise the celing and boost tax's.....when will it stop ? who many times will he have to raise tax's ?
this just crazy.
Taxes need to be raised AND spending needs to be cut. Anyone who doesn't think both are part of the solution is an idiot, IMO.
well enjoy your tax hike, don't hold back man just say it
Godfather.
I'm an American living in Canada. How do you think the deficit should be reduced? Cutting social programs isn't going to do it alone. Everyone's going to have to make sacrifices, services should be cut, as should the military budget (can someone please explain why we almost spend more than the rest of the world combined?)... But, taxes also need to be raised to a point, even just back to Clinton or Reagen levels.
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Care to clarify where he said/implied that dems are stupid?
raise the tax's and the debt celing ...but you probably don't mind do you.
Godfather.
What do you suggest?
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raise the tax's and the debt celing ...but you probably don't mind do you.
Godfather.[/quote]
What do you suggest?[/quote]
Lets start with ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and save twelve billion dollars a month. And lets raise taxes on the top 1% of income earners. For a start.
Taxes need to be raised AND spending needs to be cut. Anyone who doesn't think both are part of the solution is an idiot, IMO.
well enjoy your tax hike, don't hold back man just say it
Godfather.
I'm an American living in Canada. How do you think the deficit should be reduced? Cutting social programs isn't going to do it alone. Everyone's going to have to make sacrifices, services should be cut, as should the military budget (can someone please explain why we almost spend more than the rest of the world combined?)... But, taxes also need to be raised to a point, even just back to Clinton or Reagen levels.
so then you don't pay American tax's right ?
I don't know how but he could do some home work and see how other presidents did I guess.
what the hell did people think was going to happen when he started handing out money..nothing is free
espcially when dealing with a polition.
so then you don't pay American tax's right ?
I don't know how but he could do some home work and see how other presidents did I guess.
what the hell did people think was going to happen when he started handing out money..nothing is free
espcially when dealing with a polition.
Godfather.
Well, last time we had a surplus was under Clinton, and taxes were higher. Under Reagen they were higher than current levels as well. Bush lowered taxes and spent like a drunken sailor, and Obama stupidly continued those tax cuts.
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I think it's ironic that a majority of PJ fans supports raising taxes but this message board goes to DEFCOM Level 5 whenever PJ or 10C raise prices on tickets or memberships.
so then you don't pay American tax's right ?
I don't know how but he could do some home work and see how other presidents did I guess.
what the hell did people think was going to happen when he started handing out money..nothing is free
espcially when dealing with a polition.
Godfather.
Well, last time we had a surplus was under Clinton, and taxes were higher. Under Reagen they were higher than current levels as well. Bush lowered taxes and spent like a drunken sailor, and Obama stupidly continued those tax cuts.
I think I remember reading that obama has the biggest increse to the debt in history..or something likre that.
I have been very critical of Obama for following Bush’s bankster bailout policies. And I thought his reliance on Robert Rubin & the RR Choir (Summers, Geithner, et. al) was ill advised.
But I don’t understand those on the far right who seem to believe that deficits were created on January 20th, 2009.
Consider this chart — it shows the National Debt as a percentage of GDP. Its pretty telling:
I think I remember reading that obama has the biggest increse to the debt in history..or something likre that.
Godfather.
There was an increase. Unfortunately, 'doing his homework' and looking at past presidents, tax rates may need to go back to what those past presidents had.
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"Ask Republican constituents if they're willing to compromise their kids' safety so some corporate jet owner continues to get a tax break,"
Obama said, while he denied engaging in "scare tactics."
he characterized the debate for Republicans as a choice between revamping a tax code that favors millionaires and depriving children of government aid.
what a fucking douchebag
Republicans are adamantly opposed to anything that resembles a tax hike SMART
"It is predictable. It is going to come. What we've got to do is continue to press our case with the American people that cutting spending now and dealing with our long-term debt will help create a better environment for job creators in our country," Boehner said.
knock knock.....these people are the millionares and if they don't want to play, they wont. If they don't play and keep their powder dry, they still get the filet while people suffer unemployed. This is how it works. This is why there is so much money on the sideline. OBAMA
so then you don't pay American tax's right ?
I don't know how but he could do some home work and see how other presidents did I guess.
what the hell did people think was going to happen when he started handing out money..nothing is free
espcially when dealing with a polition.
I think it's ironic that a majority of PJ fans supports raising taxes but this message board goes to DEFCOM Level 5 whenever PJ or 10C raise prices on tickets or memberships.
Inconceivable!
great point...
everything is equal everywhere for everyone.... :roll:
Barack Obama tells Republicans to take on sacred cows over borrowing talks
President warns of 'significant consequences' if Congress fails to permit more borrowing and US defaults on debts
Chris McGreal in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 29 June 2011
Barack Obama has warned of "significant consequences" for the US economy if stalled financial negotiations lead to Congress failing to permit more government borrowing and America defaults on its debts.
The president, in a rare hour-long news conference, called on Republicans to "take on their sacred cows" – including tax breaks for "millionaires and billionaires, oil companies and corporate jet owners" – in reaching a deal on Congress legislating an increase in government borrowing from the present $14.3tn (£8.9tn) limit, without which the US may be unable to meet its obligations within weeks.
Negotiations have been deadlocked over the insistence of the Democratic leadership that budget cuts must be accompanied by tax increases in order to reduce the debt. Republican congressional leaders say that the party did not win control of the House of Representatives in last November's midterm elections on a platform of scaling back government only to increase taxes.
Obama has said that if agreement is not reached by early August, then the US risks default – a blow to international confidence in the American economy – and seeing its credit rating downgraded, which would make borrowing more expensive.
"August 2 is a very important date, and there is no reason why we can't get this done now," he said. "This is not a technical problem anymore. This is a matter of Congress going ahead and biting the bullet and making tough decisions because we know what the decisions are."
Obama said more than $1tn in cuts have already been agreed but that other areas of the budget, including defence spending – considered untouchable by some Republicans – must be scrutinised.
He said that retaining tax breaks for the wealthy will be at the expense of programmes for the less privileged.
"We've got to make some tough choices here," he said.
The president called on Republicans to put aside soundbite politics and act in the interests of the country.
"A lot of people say a lot of things to satisfy their base or to get on cable news," he said. "Hopefully, leaders at a certain point rise to the occasion and do the right thing for the American people. That is what I expect to happen this time. Call me naive, but my expectation is leaders are going to lead."
The president criticised the Republicans' tactic of stepping back from negotiations when things don't go their way and then blaming him for lack of leadership, saying it "is just not on the level".
Obama defended himself against charges that he has failed to show leadership.
"I've already shown I'm prepared to make decisions that are very tough and will give my base of voters further reason to give me a hard time," he said.
The president also criticised a largely symbolic vote in Congress against US involvement in Libya.
"We have engaged in a limited operation to help a lot of people against one of the worst tyrants in the world," he said. "We should be sending out a unified message to this guy that he should step down and give his people a fair chance to live their lives without fear. And this suddenly becomes the cause celebre for folks in Congress? Come on."
Obama repeated his defence of military action in Libya without congressional approval, saying once again that he does not believe the limited American involvement reaches the scale of conflict defined by the War Powers Resolution. Asked if that law is constitutional, he sidestepped the issue by saying that it was not relevant to the Libya intervention.
"I don't have to get to the question," he said.
The president also sidestepped a question about whether he supports the legalisation of same-sex marriage, after the New York state legislature voted to do so last week. Obama said the New York decision is a "good thing" because it was the result of the democratic process.
"What I've seen happen over the last several years and what happened in New York last week, I think, was a good thing," he said. "I think that's how things should work."
But he declined to endorse same-sex marriages when asked if he "personally" is in favour of legalising them.
"I'm not going to make news on that today. Good try though," he said.
The current occupant can't even get his daughter age right...
"You know, Malia and Sasha generally finish their homework a day ahead of time," Obama said. "Malia's 13, Sasha's 10."
Am I the only one who's parents (who I saw every day, very involved, coaching teams/helping with homework etc...) forgot my age occasionally? Or missed it by a year? Hell, I forget how old I am sometimes, and I'm only freaking 20.
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hey Godfather, isn't he also your president? and please actually explain, rather than just posting a fox news link why this makes him think democrats are stupid.
don't make blanket statements without the knowledge to back it up. Obama isn't hiding anything. one thing "your" president last term tried but failed repeatedly at.
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If there is one thing I have in this President, it is trust. He's not hiding anything, he doesn't have skeletons in his closets, and he's not working for the greatest good of donors. Disagree with his policies, fine. But don't claim he's trying to screw us. Republicans in Congress are opposing legislation they previously supported in an effort to bring Obama down. They refuse to abandon their trickle down theory of economic policy despite 30 years of failure. And they refuse to lead by compromising. Its asinine to bring the world financial markets to the brink because of the principal of failure at all costs. And they would have you believe that Mitt Romney, Michelle Bachman or Sarah "I won't quit" Palin, is the answer. Look at the facts, consider what this President inherited and consider what he has accomplished in the face of obstruction for the sake of obstruction, failure for the sake of failure and irresponsibility for the sake of the top 1%. Are we that stupid? We've had Reagan/Bush/Bush and Clinton and which policies left us better off?
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raise tax's.......yaah yah that should work and my followers will follow me right off the cliff
Godfather.
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
Care to clarify where he said/implied that dems are stupid?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Raise the debt ceiling only after the Dems concede to cut everything Pual Ryan wants to- TRILLIONS.
No cuts? Then no raising the debt ceiling. US defaults on debt, sending shockwaves throughout the global economy and spiraling us all into a world of fucked up that nobody has ever seen.
Hang it around Obama's neck and let the Democratic party wither on the vine.
What? Not hopey-changie enough for you? Enough with these treasonist bastards.
not my job bro he was elected to make change...I didn't think he would be spot on but I did hope for more
but come on raise the celing and boost tax's.....when will it stop ? who many times will he have to raise tax's ?
this just crazy.
Godfather.
well enjoy your tax hike, don't hold back man just say it
Godfather.
raise the tax's and the debt celing ...but you probably don't mind do you.
Godfather.
Godfather.[/quote]
What do you suggest?[/quote]
Lets start with ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and save twelve billion dollars a month. And lets raise taxes on the top 1% of income earners. For a start.
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so then you don't pay American tax's right ?
I don't know how but he could do some home work and see how other presidents did I guess.
what the hell did people think was going to happen when he started handing out money..nothing is free
espcially when dealing with a polition.
Godfather.
Inconceivable!
I think I remember reading that obama has the biggest increse to the debt in history..or something likre that.
Godfather.
But I don’t understand those on the far right who seem to believe that deficits were created on January 20th, 2009.
Consider this chart — it shows the National Debt as a percentage of GDP. Its pretty telling:
National Debt Graph
click for larger chart
Link to the chart is below:
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content ... -GDP-L.gif
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More telling information if you want to know more about who's policies actually benefited who and who is responsible for the cluster we're in today.
peace.
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Obama said, while he denied engaging in "scare tactics."
he characterized the debate for Republicans as a choice between revamping a tax code that favors millionaires and depriving children of government aid.
what a fucking douchebag
Republicans are adamantly opposed to anything that resembles a tax hike SMART
"It is predictable. It is going to come. What we've got to do is continue to press our case with the American people that cutting spending now and dealing with our long-term debt will help create a better environment for job creators in our country," Boehner said.
knock knock.....these people are the millionares and if they don't want to play, they wont. If they don't play and keep their powder dry, they still get the filet while people suffer unemployed. This is how it works. This is why there is so much money on the sideline. OBAMA
lol...
typical...whine, talk shit, and offer nothing....
:thumbup:
great point...
everything is equal everywhere for everyone.... :roll:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... wing-talks
Barack Obama tells Republicans to take on sacred cows over borrowing talks
President warns of 'significant consequences' if Congress fails to permit more borrowing and US defaults on debts
Chris McGreal in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 29 June 2011
Barack Obama has warned of "significant consequences" for the US economy if stalled financial negotiations lead to Congress failing to permit more government borrowing and America defaults on its debts.
The president, in a rare hour-long news conference, called on Republicans to "take on their sacred cows" – including tax breaks for "millionaires and billionaires, oil companies and corporate jet owners" – in reaching a deal on Congress legislating an increase in government borrowing from the present $14.3tn (£8.9tn) limit, without which the US may be unable to meet its obligations within weeks.
Negotiations have been deadlocked over the insistence of the Democratic leadership that budget cuts must be accompanied by tax increases in order to reduce the debt. Republican congressional leaders say that the party did not win control of the House of Representatives in last November's midterm elections on a platform of scaling back government only to increase taxes.
Obama has said that if agreement is not reached by early August, then the US risks default – a blow to international confidence in the American economy – and seeing its credit rating downgraded, which would make borrowing more expensive.
"August 2 is a very important date, and there is no reason why we can't get this done now," he said. "This is not a technical problem anymore. This is a matter of Congress going ahead and biting the bullet and making tough decisions because we know what the decisions are."
Obama said more than $1tn in cuts have already been agreed but that other areas of the budget, including defence spending – considered untouchable by some Republicans – must be scrutinised.
He said that retaining tax breaks for the wealthy will be at the expense of programmes for the less privileged.
"We've got to make some tough choices here," he said.
The president called on Republicans to put aside soundbite politics and act in the interests of the country.
"A lot of people say a lot of things to satisfy their base or to get on cable news," he said. "Hopefully, leaders at a certain point rise to the occasion and do the right thing for the American people. That is what I expect to happen this time. Call me naive, but my expectation is leaders are going to lead."
The president criticised the Republicans' tactic of stepping back from negotiations when things don't go their way and then blaming him for lack of leadership, saying it "is just not on the level".
Obama defended himself against charges that he has failed to show leadership.
"I've already shown I'm prepared to make decisions that are very tough and will give my base of voters further reason to give me a hard time," he said.
The president also criticised a largely symbolic vote in Congress against US involvement in Libya.
"We have engaged in a limited operation to help a lot of people against one of the worst tyrants in the world," he said. "We should be sending out a unified message to this guy that he should step down and give his people a fair chance to live their lives without fear. And this suddenly becomes the cause celebre for folks in Congress? Come on."
Obama repeated his defence of military action in Libya without congressional approval, saying once again that he does not believe the limited American involvement reaches the scale of conflict defined by the War Powers Resolution. Asked if that law is constitutional, he sidestepped the issue by saying that it was not relevant to the Libya intervention.
"I don't have to get to the question," he said.
The president also sidestepped a question about whether he supports the legalisation of same-sex marriage, after the New York state legislature voted to do so last week. Obama said the New York decision is a "good thing" because it was the result of the democratic process.
"What I've seen happen over the last several years and what happened in New York last week, I think, was a good thing," he said. "I think that's how things should work."
But he declined to endorse same-sex marriages when asked if he "personally" is in favour of legalising them.
"I'm not going to make news on that today. Good try though," he said.
"You know, Malia and Sasha generally finish their homework a day ahead of time," Obama said. "Malia's 13, Sasha's 10."
Nice Strategery....!!!
Time to impeach....
unfortunately this response is annoyingly predictable. criticism without construction.
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don't make blanket statements without the knowledge to back it up. Obama isn't hiding anything. one thing "your" president last term tried but failed repeatedly at.
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