DNA test casts doubt on executed man's guilt

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  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    gimme

    maybe i'm reading it wrong but
    nothing in this article says he was proven innocent
    and he should not have been executed without absolute proof
    chalk up another gem for gw bush and his team


    The single hair had been the only piece of physical evidence linking Claude Jones to the crime scene. But the DNA analysis found it did not belong to Jones and instead may have come from the murder victim.

    this does not say he did not do it or was not there
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  • so you think it was right to execute him based on no evidence saying he WASN'T guilty of the crime???!!!!
    ed243421 wrote:
    gimme

    maybe i'm reading it wrong but
    nothing in this article says he was proven innocent
    and he should not have been executed without absolute proof
    chalk up another gem for gw bush and his team


    The single hair had been the only piece of physical evidence linking Claude Jones to the crime scene. But the DNA analysis found it did not belong to Jones and instead may have come from the murder victim.

    this does not say he did not do it or was not there
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    ed243421 wrote:
    gimme

    maybe i'm reading it wrong but
    nothing in this article says he was proven innocent
    and he should not have been executed without absolute proof
    chalk up another gem for gw bush and his team


    The single hair had been the only piece of physical evidence linking Claude Jones to the crime scene. But the DNA analysis found it did not belong to Jones and instead may have come from the murder victim.

    this does not say he did not do it or was not there
    he was not proven innocent, rather the evidence should have proven him "not guilty", and "not guilty" and "innocent" are two entirely different matters. i am appalled that people can say that even though the hair did not match his, he deserves to be executed for this crime that he could or could not have committed... it sounds like there is a reasonable doubt in this case, and you can not convict, let alone execute someone if there is a reasonable doubt as to whether or not they committed the crime. they said the hair was his, dna proves otherwise.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    How does someone serving a "life sentence" who then lights his cellmate on fire, killing him, ever get out of jail?

    Who thought that sounded like a good idea? Who thought that would end up with the guy being a productive member of society?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    Paul David wrote:
    so you think it was right to execute him based on no evidence saying he WASN'T guilty of the crime???!!!!
    ed243421 wrote:
    gimme

    maybe i'm reading it wrong but
    nothing in this article says he was proven innocent
    and he should not have been executed without absolute proof
    chalk up another gem for gw bush and his team


    The single hair had been the only piece of physical evidence linking Claude Jones to the crime scene. But the DNA analysis found it did not belong to Jones and instead may have come from the murder victim.

    this does not say he did not do it or was not there

    please read what i said
    i said he should not have been executed
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    ed243421 wrote:
    gimme

    maybe i'm reading it wrong but
    nothing in this article says he was proven innocent
    and he should not have been executed without absolute proof
    chalk up another gem for gw bush and his team


    The single hair had been the only piece of physical evidence linking Claude Jones to the crime scene. But the DNA analysis found it did not belong to Jones and instead may have come from the murder victim.

    this does not say he did not do it or was not there
    he was not proven innocent, rather the evidence should have proven him "not guilty", and "not guilty" and "innocent" are two entirely different matters. i am appalled that people can say that even though the hair did not match his, he deserves to be executed for this crime that he could or could not have committed... it sounds like there is a reasonable doubt in this case, and you can not convict, let alone execute someone if there is a reasonable doubt as to whether or not they committed the crime. they said the hair was his, dna proves otherwise.

    gimme
    did you say the evidence proves him not guilty?
    because it does not do that
    all it proves is that the hair was not his
    he still could have been the murderer
    and i have said several times that he should not have been executed
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









  • my bad. you're right, I misread it.
    ed243421 wrote:
    Paul David wrote:
    so you think it was right to execute him based on no evidence saying he WASN'T guilty of the crime???!!!!
    ed243421 wrote:
    gimme

    maybe i'm reading it wrong but
    nothing in this article says he was proven innocent
    and he should not have been executed without absolute proof
    chalk up another gem for gw bush and his team


    The single hair had been the only piece of physical evidence linking Claude Jones to the crime scene. But the DNA analysis found it did not belong to Jones and instead may have come from the murder victim.

    this does not say he did not do it or was not there

    please read what i said
    i said he should not have been executed
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • without the hair, there was nothing else linking him to the murder, so yes, not guilty would have been ther verdict. No one is saying if he was actually innocent or not. we don't know. all we're saying is the same as you, that he should not have been executed.
    ed243421 wrote:
    gimme
    did you say the evidence proves him not guilty?
    because it does not do that
    all it proves is that the hair was not his
    he still could have been the murderer
    and i have said several times that he should not have been executed
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    ^^^

    exactly. without the hair there is reasonable doubt, and with reasonable doubt you can not convict, so the verdict would have had to have been not guilty.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • How does someone serving a "life sentence" who then lights his cellmate on fire, killing him, ever get out of jail?

    Who thought that sounded like a good idea? Who thought that would end up with the guy being a productive member of society?

    I'm with you on that one. He didn't really come across like a prime candidate to be reintroduced into society.
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
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