MLB 2025 Season

Wobbie

norm said:

Who Princess said:

norm said:

imalive said:

people who would give Hamilton coke are low-lifes.

why was he around these people to begin with?

Doesn't he have a minder? The Rangers hired a staff person to keep him out of trouble, not that it always worked.

i'm not even sure what rob is talking about but if he is around "old friends" i have to wonder why and how no one in his life knew

me? "rob"? did I mentioned old friends?

and....last 12....isn't "self respecting drug dealer" an oxymoron?

for whoprincess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEnszZ6G0sQ

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Last-12-Exit said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Can't blame the dealer. He knew where to get it. What self respecting drug dealer is going to turn down a client like Hamilton?

He is a drug addict.
It is a disease...Right?
Nobody to blame.

Isnt that what I am to believe? Addiction is a disease. Therefore I find it strange that he would be banned from playing baseball. You certainly are not going to ban a player for having the measles. Right?

Yeah, I just felt like going there. Hahahahaha

Who is to blame?

Would your employer keep you around if you failed at least 3 drug tests? Professional sports may be the only profession that allows multiple failed drug tests without being fired. Disease or not.

I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic.

if I fail one drug test I would probably never be able to drive a semi again. No company would touch me for 5 years minimum.

Actually I was just curious as to what everyone's belief was as far as drug addiction being a disease.

Wobbie

For Josh.....disease.

pretty damn sure he doesn't WANT to relapse.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

imalive said:

For Josh.....disease.

pretty damn sure he doesn't WANT to relapse.

if it's truly a disease then how can the guy be fired?

Cliffy6745

Disease or not, addiction is the most fucked up thing I have ever seen in my life.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

How can u suspend a guy because he has a disease?

Cliffy6745

How much control can something have over you? Josh Hamilton has something like $90 million that could very easily go down the drain if goes back, and he does. 90 fucking million fucking dollars and all you have to do is stay sober and swing a bat. I can't imagine what that feels like

Wobbie

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

How can u suspend a guy because he has a disease?

and that is the question.....

Who Princess

Even with a disease or disability, you can be fired if you can't do your job. One difference (among many! ) between his job and yours, Speedy, is the potential to harm others if he's high at work.

Of course he's also very well paid! I understand his contract requires him to be tested 3 times a week.

I'm kinda with Rob, I don't think he wants to relapse.

Wobbie

Who Princess said:

Even with a disease or disability, you can be fired if you can't do your job. One difference (among many! ) between his job and yours, Speedy, is the potential to harm others if he's high at work.

Of course he's also very well paid! I understand his contract requires him to be tested 3 times a week.

I'm kinda with Rob, I don't think he wants to relapse.

yep, gotta have a way to insure your $125M investment as well.....I would imagine the Angels have an out clause.

Who Princess

When Josh was playing here, he would point out that anything associated with him involved drama. I think that idea tends to trivialize his problems.

If the Angels try to unload him, it's going to be hard to find any takers.

Wobbie

Who Princess said:

When Josh was playing here, he would point out that anything associated with him involved drama. I think that idea tends to trivialize his problems.

If the Angels try to unload him, it's going to be hard to find any takers.

I thought Prince Fielder was untradeable but look what happened....where'd he go again?

Who Princess

Aargh! You know better than to say that name to me!!!!

Wobbie

Who Princess said:

Aargh! You know better than to say that name to me!!!!

he says he's ready to go....hope springs eternal.

eeriepadave

hope Josh gets the treatment he needs. feel bad for him.

Wobbie

I think this is the MLB thread....

just saw an ESPN poll....70% believe Bagwell should be in the HOF......that's fine as long as Bonds is in, too

Amongst the Ani

I still dont see why Bonds isnt in. If he had retired in the late 90's he was still only the second player to go 400/400 and by the time he supposedly really got into roids he was already a 500/500 player. He was the second greatest hitter ever behind Ruth and the 3rd greatest positional player behind Ruth and Mays.

Plus all they have on him for Roids was the failed anonymous test and a conviction for obstruction of justice. The failed test the players were told by baseball would be completely anonymous and shouldn't be used against him in anything to do with baseball itsekf. Just because a court of law used it the players were told when they took it the results would never be used against the individually. That should include the HOF. And the obstruction charge is also bullshit. No one had ever been convicted before of Obstruction without some undelying thing like perjury. He didn't directly answer the question if he saw his trainer hand anything to any other players the first time but answered it a minute later. I get why the fans of other teams hate him but him not so much mlb as a whole.

So far as Hamilton I hope he can pull through this. He didn't have to turn himself in and may not have even failed a test (he hadn't yet by the time he did turn himself in). It was a mini cry for help. Give him a month suspension to get his support system in a better place and let him back in. Its a self induced disease. Yes he caused it much like some people inflict diabetes on themselves. He still deserves some compassion as he obviously cares about trying to get better.

Wobbie

cdysinge said:

I still dont see why Bonds isnt in. If he had retired in the late 90's he was still only the second player to go 400/400 and by the time he supposedly really got into roids he was already a 500/500 player. He was the second greatest hitter ever behind Ruth and the 3rd greatest positional player behind Ruth and Mays.

Plus all they have on him for Roids was the failed anonymous test and a conviction for obstruction of justice. The failed test the players were told by baseball would be completely anonymous and shouldn't be used against him in anything to do with baseball itsekf. Just because a court of law used it the players were told when they took it the results would never be used against the individually. That should include the HOF. And the obstruction charge is also bullshit. No one had ever been convicted before of Obstruction without some undelying thing like perjury. He didn't directly answer the question if he saw his trainer hand anything to any other players the first time but answered it a minute later. I get why the fans of other teams hate him but him not so much mlb as a whole.

most of the voters wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.....the problem is his personality, more than anything else.

Amongst the Ani

Feeling better and better about Giants having traded Zach Wheeler. As it goes with pitching prospects you don't count your chickens until they have hatched. Maybe the Giants have a pre-cog on staff. This is the second supposed young ace they have traded in the past 10-15 seasons and the second to have his career de-reailed by injuries. Francisco Liriano being the first.

Wobbie

^^^^ that said, they were still terrible trades.