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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,399
    edited December 2025
    Wobbie said:
    cutz said:
    Wobbie said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    "bWAR" - okay, good to know
    hey, I don’t really understand it either but it’s basically WAR with defensive “metrics” added in.


    But, if 'bWAR" uses defensive "metrics", is that somewhat an opiniated Stat? How is that measured?
    “defensive runs saved.” it’s all AI hocus pocus. 
    Just like I thought. (Opiniated stat)
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,905
    Jeff Kent, HOF.

    I think it’s deserved but it doesn’t make the HOF any less of a joke.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,915
    When he said played 17 seasons for the Blue Jays and Mets. I thought it was Carlos Delgado and I changed the channel. So probably Carlos for a few seconds thought he was in
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 32,097
    Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
    Cmon.  Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.

    #teamdale
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,915
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
    Cmon.  Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.

    #teamdale
    And Mattingly wasn't?
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,167
    Jeff Kent is the 2025 Harold Baines. Not a hall of famer in my opinion.

    Mattingly should be in but not before Keith Hernandez.  Dale Murphy should be in.  Just my opinions.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,251
    igotid88 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
    Cmon.  Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.

    #teamdale
    And Mattingly wasn't?
    222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,915
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
    Cmon.  Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.

    #teamdale
    And Mattingly wasn't?
    222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?
    14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,369
    igotid88 said:
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
    Cmon.  Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.

    #teamdale
    And Mattingly wasn't?
    222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?
    14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.
    Here we go again...

    Mattingly was great for 4 years, real good for 2 and an elite fielder for most of his career.  

    Keith Hernandez has a similar career if not slightly better but he won't get in either.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,369
    edited December 2025
    pjhawks said:
    Jeff Kent is the 2025 Harold Baines. Not a hall of famer in my opinion.

    Mattingly should be in but not before Keith Hernandez.  Dale Murphy should be in.  Just my opinions.
    I think Kent had a better career than Baines and him being a 2B gives him a bigger edge.

    I agree with everything else u said.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,905
    pjhawks said:
    Jeff Kent is the 2025 Harold Baines. Not a hall of famer in my opinion.


    comparing him to the universally panned Baines election is ridiculous. Kent didn’t win Gold Gloves, meaning he wasn’t elite, but he was fine. Completely serviceable; not a liability. 


    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,369
    Wobbie said:
    pjhawks said:
    Jeff Kent is the 2025 Harold Baines. Not a hall of famer in my opinion.


    comparing him to the universally panned Baines election is ridiculous. Kent didn’t win Gold Gloves, meaning he wasn’t elite, but he was fine. Completely serviceable; not a liability. 


    I would take Sandberg all day over Kent.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,251
    igotid88 said:
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
    Cmon.  Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.

    #teamdale
    And Mattingly wasn't?
    222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?
    14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.
    The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.

    222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,905
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    pjhawks said:
    Jeff Kent is the 2025 Harold Baines. Not a hall of famer in my opinion.


    comparing him to the universally panned Baines election is ridiculous. Kent didn’t win Gold Gloves, meaning he wasn’t elite, but he was fine. Completely serviceable; not a liability. 


    I would take Sandberg all day over Kent.
    So would most people. That doesn’t mean Kent isn’t deserving. 


    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,369
    I actually thought Kent should be in.

    Why the fuck Mazeroski is in I will never know.  Unless it's because he slayed the Yankees.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,649
    Just Kent? No one else?

    Seems like if one guy is going into the HoF it's a broken process.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,369
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Just Kent? No one else?

    Seems like if one guy is going into the HoF it's a broken process.
    Here were your voters.  None of these guys are voting for Bond, Arod or Clemens.

    Not sure why Sheffield is getting the shaft either?  He was mentioned but never tested positive for Steroids.

     The Hall of Fame on Tuesday revealed the names of the members of the voting committee: Hall of Famers Fergie Jenkins, Jim Kaat, Juan Marichal, Tony Pérez, Ozzie Smith, Alan Trammell and Robin Yount; MLB executives Mark Attanasio, Doug Melvin, Arte Moreno, Kim Ng, Tony Reagins and Terry Ryan; and media members/historians Steve Hirdt, Tyler Kepner and Jayson Stark.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,905
    Johnny Abruzzo said:

     the HoF is a broken process.
    you’re right about that!
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,915
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
    Cmon.  Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.

    #teamdale
    And Mattingly wasn't?
    222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?
    14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.
    The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.

    222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
    20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back. 
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