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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjl44 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    The AL just has better teams as a whole. Been that way for a long time, hence the lopsided interleague record.

    Right. And they're better because of the DH.

    But the NL gets to use the DH too in interleague play don't they?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjl44 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    The AL just has better teams as a whole. Been that way for a long time, hence the lopsided interleague record.

    Right. And they're better because of the DH.

    But the NL gets to use the DH too in interleague play don't they?


    ...nobody in the nl is paying their dh 15 mil a year....


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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjl44 wrote:

    Right. And they're better because of the DH.

    But the NL gets to use the DH too in interleague play don't they?


    ...nobody in the nl is paying their dh 15 mil a year....


    worst rule in sports.

    dude, it's not even in the top 10 of worst rules in sports. the NFL and NHL each have 10 rules that are worse

    again, I don't see how a player/teams salary is relevant here at all

    joey votto makes something like 800K a year. last time I checked he was a pretty damn good hitter
  • The Juggler
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    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    But the NL gets to use the DH too in interleague play don't they?


    ...nobody in the nl is paying their dh 15 mil a year....


    worst rule in sports.

    dude, it's not even in the top 10 of worst rules in sports. the NFL and NHL each have 10 rules that are worse

    again, I don't see how a player/teams salary is relevant here at all

    joey votto makes something like 800K a year. last time I checked he was a pretty damn good hitter

    the worst. not even close....what makes it the worst is that one league has it and the other doesn't.

    and, dude really?

    2 years ago the mvp of the world series was hideki matsui. he was paid to be a dh. i think he was paid about 15 million dollars to be a dh.

    the phillies dh was ben francisco. ben fucking francisco, who was paid to be a 4th outfielder :lol:
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  • The Fixer
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    I disagree. Just watch an NFL game for an hour and you will see 20 stupid penalties.

    I dont think the DH is that big of a deal. and I know the salary of a DH doesnt matter

    I thought Ryan Howard was MVP for the yanks in that WS?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    The Fixer wrote:
    I disagree. Just watch an NFL game for an hour and you will see 20 stupid penalties.

    I dont think the DH is that big of a deal. and I know the salary of a DH doesnt matter

    I thought Ryan Howard was MVP for the yanks in that WS?

    of course the salary of a dh doesn't matter. :lol: you're not understanding the point. the point is a dh in the al is getting paid to be a dh. that would be his job. lot's of dh's make a lot of money to do that one thing and to do it well.

    there is nobody in the nl getting paid to be a dh. why? because the position doesn't exist in the nl.

    how baseball has gone this long with one league having such a distinct advantage over the other is mind boggling to me.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    I disagree. Just watch an NFL game for an hour and you will see 20 stupid penalties.

    I dont think the DH is that big of a deal. and I know the salary of a DH doesnt matter

    I thought Ryan Howard was MVP for the yanks in that WS?

    of course the salary of a dh doesn't matter. :lol: you're not understanding the point. the point is a dh in the al is getting paid to be a dh. that would be his job. lot's of dh's make a lot of money to do that one thing and to do it well.

    there is nobody in the nl getting paid to be a dh. why? because the position doesn't exist in the nl.

    how baseball has gone this long with one league having such a distinct advantage over the other is mind boggling to me.

    the two leagues rarely play each other. and as I posted, the WS has been pretty even between the two leagues since the DH was implemented.

    It's not that big of a deal
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    of course the salary of a dh doesn't matter. :lol: you're not understanding the point. the point is a dh in the al is getting paid to be a dh. that would be his job. lot's of dh's make a lot of money to do that one thing and to do it well.

    there is nobody in the nl getting paid to be a dh. why? because the position doesn't exist in the nl.

    how baseball has gone this long with one league having such a distinct advantage over the other is mind boggling to me.

    the two leagues rarely play each other. and as I posted, the WS has been pretty even between the two leagues since the DH was implemented.

    It's not that big of a deal

    they play each other in the championship series of the sport. and taking 20 of 35 projects to a 92-70 record over a full season.

    ben francisco vs hideki matsui....the dh isn't a big deal. come on man.

    horrible that one league has it and the other doesn't.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    of course the salary of a dh doesn't matter. :lol: you're not understanding the point. the point is a dh in the al is getting paid to be a dh. that would be his job. lot's of dh's make a lot of money to do that one thing and to do it well.

    there is nobody in the nl getting paid to be a dh. why? because the position doesn't exist in the nl.

    how baseball has gone this long with one league having such a distinct advantage over the other is mind boggling to me.

    the two leagues rarely play each other. and as I posted, the WS has been pretty even between the two leagues since the DH was implemented.

    It's not that big of a deal

    they play each other in the championship series of the sport. and taking 20 of 35 projects to a 92-70 record over a full season.

    ben francisco vs hideki matsui....the dh isn't a big deal. come on man.

    horrible that one league has it and the other doesn't.

    the world series is only 7 games, not 162. In the 35 years or so since the DH has been in the WS, there isn't really an advantage for either league. You could say the NL has the advantage because their pitchers get to hit throughout the year.

    stairs was the DH the year the phils won it all. he was a pretty good hitter. francisco vs matsui is just one example. there are plenty of guys in the NL that would be solid DHs.

    I really don't see the big deal. I like the fact that the two leagues are different. It's interesting to see the conflicting styles in the world series
  • The Fixer
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    jimed14 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    I think we're on the same page...zero correlation was probably getting a little carried away

    which ... is the definition of hyperbole. ;)

    touche.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    the two leagues rarely play each other. and as I posted, the WS has been pretty even between the two leagues since the DH was implemented.

    It's not that big of a deal

    they play each other in the championship series of the sport. and taking 20 of 35 projects to a 92-70 record over a full season.

    ben francisco vs hideki matsui....the dh isn't a big deal. come on man.

    horrible that one league has it and the other doesn't.

    the world series is only 7 games, not 162. In the 35 years or so since the DH has been in the WS, there isn't really an advantage for either league. You could say the NL has the advantage because their pitchers get to hit throughout the year.

    stairs was the DH the year the phils won it all. he was a pretty good hitter. francisco vs matsui is just one example. there are plenty of guys in the NL that would be solid DHs.

    I really don't see the big deal. I like the fact that the two leagues are different. It's interesting to see the conflicting styles in the world series

    well we'll just have to agree to disagree. i'm old school when it comes to baseball. i think the dh takes away from the late game strategies that make the game so interesting. and i think when you get to the world series when you have one team who has built their team around having a dh all year and one team who has to throw in a 4th outfielder into the role, i consider that a distinct and unfair advantage.

    i disagree that the nl has the advantage because pitchers hit all year. a pitcher will never win the mvp for his hitting. can't think of a world series where this aspect has truly helped the nl. conversely the dh helps the al all the time.

    and i gave you the projected full season record because 35 games is a small sample size. it's still a .570 winning percentage though ;)

    i agree that it is interesting that both leagues are different....just would be nice to see both of them on a level playing field again. amazing to me that they're not. whether you like or dislike the dh, want to keep it or get rid of it, most agree that both leagues should have the same rules.
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  • The Fixer
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    yeah, we're going in circles. you obviously think it's a bigger deal than I do.

    I am really just playing devils advocate here. I prefer the NL style of baseball as well. Just saying that in the WS an AL team loses it's DH when they're on the road. So that could be looked at as an advantage for the NL team (especially if it's a guy like david ortiz who is forced to play the field).
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    The Fixer wrote:
    yeah, we're going in circles. you obviously think it's a bigger deal than I do.

    I am really just playing devils advocate here. I prefer the NL style of baseball as well. Just saying that in the WS an AL team loses it's DH when they're on the road. So that could be looked at as an advantage for the NL team (especially if it's a guy like david ortiz who is forced to play the field).

    and i get that point...but that further proves my point that each league should be on a level playing field going into it.

    i have despised the dh since i was kid who hated the american league. but to make things fair you either have to get rid of it all together or put in both leagues--which would give me something to complain about for the rest of my life but at least things would be even. i support the first option. alas, that will never happen. :x
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  • letsongsprotest
    letsongsprotest Novi, MI Posts: 552
    As far as the World Series goes, the home team will always get the advantage as far as DH/no DH. The real crime is that home field advantage in the WS is decided by the winner of the f'ing All Star game.

    Worst yet, the All Star rosters (starting lineups at least) usually arent the best players for that year because idiot fans dont know how to vote for the most deserving players and not their home town players and/or favorite players. Cant wait to see Jeter starting at SS this year........ :roll: give me a break.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    letsongsprotest wrote:
    As far as the World Series goes, the home team will always get the advantage as far as DH/no DH. The real crime is that home field advantage in the WS is decided by the winner of the f'ing All Star game.

    Worst yet, the All Star rosters (starting lineups at least) usually arent the best players for that year because idiot fans dont know how to vote for the most deserving players and not their home town players and/or favorite players. Cant wait to see Jeter starting at SS this year........ :roll: give me a break.

    another brilliant call by the commissioner
    :roll:
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:
    letsongsprotest wrote:
    As far as the World Series goes, the home team will always get the advantage as far as DH/no DH. The real crime is that home field advantage in the WS is decided by the winner of the f'ing All Star game.

    Worst yet, the All Star rosters (starting lineups at least) usually arent the best players for that year because idiot fans dont know how to vote for the most deserving players and not their home town players and/or favorite players. Cant wait to see Jeter starting at SS this year........ :roll: give me a break.

    another brilliant call by the commissioner
    :roll:

    yeah, that is a horrible rule. a billion times worse than the DH
  • tcaporale
    tcaporale Posts: 1,577
    As a Yankee fan, even I have to agree that the Yankees players leading basically every category is absolutely ridiculous. I don't feel like the fans should be trusted to vote for the All-Star Game, because most people only know players by name recognition and don't follow the game day in and day out like many of us do. I don't know if the coaches or players themselves should vote, but if the All-Star game will continue to decide home field advantage in the World Series, it's only fair that the players that deserve to play in it actually make the team.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    tcaporale wrote:
    As a Yankee fan, even I have to agree that the Yankees players leading basically every category is absolutely ridiculous. I don't feel like the fans should be trusted to vote for the All-Star Game, because most people only know players by name recognition and don't follow the game day in and day out like many of us do. I don't know if the coaches or players themselves should vote, but if the All-Star game will continue to decide home field advantage in the World Series, it's only fair that the players that deserve to play in it actually make the team.

    If the game is going to count for something I think the managers of the 3 division leaders a week or two before the all star game should select the team.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    The Fixer wrote:
    tcaporale wrote:
    As a Yankee fan, even I have to agree that the Yankees players leading basically every category is absolutely ridiculous. I don't feel like the fans should be trusted to vote for the All-Star Game, because most people only know players by name recognition and don't follow the game day in and day out like many of us do. I don't know if the coaches or players themselves should vote, but if the All-Star game will continue to decide home field advantage in the World Series, it's only fair that the players that deserve to play in it actually make the team.

    If the game is going to count for something I think the managers of the 3 division leaders a week or two before the all star game should select the team.

    not removing the starters after 3 or 4 innings would help to.

    "this time it counts!" :lol: ugh.
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  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Bud Selig becoming commish was the best thing to happen to Brewer baseball since Robin Yount. Mostly because he was no longer our owner.

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