Yankees offered almost identical money as the Mets. Soto simply thoughts the Mets had a better situation for the next 15 years.
Say that out loud Yankee fans.
That is just not true...total dollars were similar, but very different structures with AAV and the escalators to over $800 million. They presented the contract to the Yankees and they said no. He felt no connection to go back to the Yankees and he took the biggest contact.
You’re splitting hairs here. He only gets 805 if he opts out; which he almost certainly will not do.
At the end of the day, the Yankees offered 760 over 16 years and the Mets offered 765 over 15 years. Lie to yourself and say it was about the money if it makes you feel better.
He makes more w less years. How is that NOT for the money?
It’s marginal 2040 money. Before he signed, it was widely assumed that as long as the Yankees are within the ballpark of the Mets offer, he would go back to the Yankees. The Mets were told they would have to blow the Yankees out of the water. They didn’t. The Yankees were very much in the ballpark and he didn’t choose them.
Assumed by who? Not saying the line of thinking was wrong, I just don’t think it was grounded in any fact. After the World Series he said no team had an advantage. He was always likely going to the highest bidder, as it usually works
I listed by who above. Specifically, former GM’s Jim Duquette, Jim Bowden, Steve Phillips don’t think there is any chance he opts out. Neither do Ken Rosenthal or Tom Verducci, among others. You can disagree with them, but I cited them because the opt out to get it to 805 is highly unlikely.
We’re just going to have to disagree the money differential is significant. The press conference will clear some questions up, but by all accounts, he wanted to play for the Mets rather than the Yankees.
He literally said no team had an advantage and went to the highest bidder. Not sure how that can be twisted into anything except money was the most important factor.
Remember Cohen strategy was created by living for decades in the "Steinbrenner" verse. He is doing everything he can so the Mets can be the number one destination for MLB players, in addition to replacing the Steinbrenners as the biggest spenders.
The money goes beyond MLB contracts. The Cohens have put money into making the family experience excellent for players with investments such as significantly improving the on site facility for players families and they gave Soto an annual $500k luxury suite and the Yanks didn't want to set that precedent.
So when fans get angry at these outrageous contracts, the decades long NY baseball situation specifically created the current Mets spending machine. In NY it was only a matter of time before some outrageously wealthy wall street Mets fan got involved.
This is exactly what the players wanted, this is the system we get.
Brandon McCarthy was saying the other day in terms of history and experience, Yankees are Augusta vs. everyone else a regular tour event.
Love all of this. All companies should treat their employees great.
they should let them grow facial hair, too.
Most ridiculous team rule in all of organized sports. It's not 1958 anymore, no need to enforce clean shaven buzz cut wearing robots as players.
This actually one of my fav things the Yankees do.
You can have facial hair just nothing below the lip line. Think of cops, firemen, military. All business looking.
half the cops in Utah have beards. For firefighters, it’s about the SCBA seal.
Our cops do not and none from the 70-20110's did either. Last couple of years they have laxed some.
Whodathunk that Utah would be progressive?
I don’t think it’s “progressive.” I think it’s wild west mentality.
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So, as you know so far, will the Orioles be better in 2025 vs 2024?
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lol they offered $800 fucking million. That’s the intangible. You’re acting like he gave them a discount because they gave him a suite. Literally the biggest contact in the history of sports
Lol seriously, I mean I'll buy Cohen is willing to do whatever it takes to make things happen. But at the end of the day that's because of dollars.
Well then you need to cut the dollars spent in half because this signing has double the value as it weakens the Yankees as much as it improves the Mets. Since Cohen is hell bent on a championship, the Yanks are a significant barrier to that, even given their weak .184 post season right fielder.
Mets have no path out of the NL, so you don't need to worry about the Yankees in the World Series
You definitely don’t need to worry about the Yankees in the World Series, is right.
So, as you know so far, will the Orioles be better in 2025 vs 2024?
I’m afraid they may regress. Sorry; I like the O’s.
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lol they offered $800 fucking million. That’s the intangible. You’re acting like he gave them a discount because they gave him a suite. Literally the biggest contact in the history of sports
Lol seriously, I mean I'll buy Cohen is willing to do whatever it takes to make things happen. But at the end of the day that's because of dollars.
Well then you need to cut the dollars spent in half because this signing has double the value as it weakens the Yankees as much as it improves the Mets. Since Cohen is hell bent on a championship, the Yanks are a significant barrier to that, even given their weak .184 post season right fielder.
Mets have no path out of the NL, so you don't need to worry about the Yankees in the World Series
You definitely don’t need to worry about the Yankees in the World Series, is right.
Good work here. Yankees will be fine. The sky is not falling. They lost the 2nd best player on the team
It's crazy that the Mets are the dominant NY baseball franchis now with more money and better players.
I will not bite…I will not bite…I will not bite
You are great at that, continuing to call Mr 184 the best player in NY!
Seriously Judge is an intimidating hitter, but Soto brings what the Mets need, patience to the plate. His eye is so good as u know, he can intimidate umpires. When the Mets were floundering in mid may, they got JD off the injured list, and he demonstrated to the team how to work the count. Even tho JD eventually went into a deep slump, that stretch defined their season.
Yankees - please take Teoscar from the d**gers. Thank you. Take Christian Walker, too.
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Nothing too surprising in the study released about the rise in pitchers getting injured, but looking at those numbers the last 20 years is staggering. It sucks to try and be a successful pitcher in today's baseball world. The league wants to favor hitting because higher scores and more homers bring in the revenue.
Nothing too surprising in the study released about the rise in pitchers getting injured, but looking at those numbers the last 20 years is staggering. It sucks to try and be a successful pitcher in today's baseball world. The league wants to favor hitting because higher scores and more homers bring in the revenue.
RIP Rickey! Probably had one of the coolest/best rookie cards from the 80's.
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But it will be better if they can sign Crochet to an extension (2 more years of control right now).
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You are great at that, continuing to call Mr 184 the best player in NY!
Seriously Judge is an intimidating hitter, but Soto brings what the Mets need, patience to the plate. His eye is so good as u know, he can intimidate umpires. When the Mets were floundering in mid may, they got JD off the injured list, and he demonstrated to the team how to work the count. Even tho JD eventually went into a deep slump, that stretch defined their season.
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Sengai will be healthy next year too.
Should be fun to watch.
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Loved Rickey, what a hilarious guy, and one of the best ball players ever.
RIP
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