MLB 2024 Off Season

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  • LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    Ted Lily is stealing Strasburg's thunder tonight.

    Too bad Ted has 3 runs through
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,838
    amazing how there's a little less than a month left and there is absolutely no drama at all in the nl.

    only thing that's even remotely close is the battle of who's not going to face the phillies. :lol:

    looks like it will be the d backs, but they're only 3.5 behind the brew crew at this point...
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  • amazing how there's a little less than a month left and there is absolutely no drama at all in the nl.

    only thing that's even remotely close is the battle of who's not going to face the phillies. :lol:

    looks like it will be the d backs, but they're only 3.5 behind the brew crew at this point...

    Last year it was fun to watch the Phils almost knock the Braves out of the playoffs the last weekend when they had nothing to play for. Guess neither team will have anything to play for this year.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,838
    amazing how there's a little less than a month left and there is absolutely no drama at all in the nl.

    only thing that's even remotely close is the battle of who's not going to face the phillies. :lol:

    looks like it will be the d backs, but they're only 3.5 behind the brew crew at this point...

    Last year it was fun to watch the Phils almost knock the Braves out of the playoffs the last weekend when they had nothing to play for. Guess neither team will have anything to play for this year.


    i've made it a point to appreciate every inning of every game this season...but right now kinda feels like preseason football. i just want to fast forward 3 and a half weeks.

    kinda funny watching games with my family. my mom is hillarious. she's not a huge baseball fan (only of my teams when i played and whenever the phils have been winners which, obviously, hasn't happened much until recently). i'm sitting there watching the 9-0 game the other night and she is living and dying with every single pitch. mom---it's 9-0~! relax! they got this. :lol:
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,104
    amazing how there's a little less than a month left and there is absolutely no drama at all in the nl.
    dude, we're only 6 back! :wtf: :lol:
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,838
    imalive wrote:
    amazing how there's a little less than a month left and there is absolutely no drama at all in the nl.
    dude, we're only 6 back! :wtf: :lol:
    :thumbup:
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  • imalive wrote:
    amazing how there's a little less than a month left and there is absolutely no drama at all in the nl.
    dude, we're only 6 back! :wtf: :lol:

    The streaky d-bags could be in store for a losing streak. But I don't think your team will take advantage.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Surprised no talk about Mariano passing Hoffman for all-time saves leader.
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  • Newch91 wrote:
    Surprised no talk about Mariano passing Hoffman for all-time saves leader.

    Did it happen yet? Sorry - I hate the save stat - think it's garbage.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Newch91 wrote:
    Surprised no talk about Mariano passing Hoffman for all-time saves leader.

    Did it happen yet? Sorry - I hate the save stat - think it's garbage.
    Explain
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  • Newch91 wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Surprised no talk about Mariano passing Hoffman for all-time saves leader.

    Did it happen yet? Sorry - I hate the save stat - think it's garbage.
    Explain

    So you honestly think the "save" is a respectable statistic? Is there anything notable about coming into a game and getting 3 outs without giving up 3 runs? Any team up by 3 runs going into the 9th inning wins something like 98% of the time. And that percentage hasn't change since the popularization of the "closer."

    "Closers" are generally some of the most overrated players in all of sports. Somebody (Jayson Stark maybe?) mentioned Craig Kimbrell as an NL Cy Young candidate and I threw up in my mouth. Starting a game and going through a lineup 3 or 4 times is many degrees more difficult than "closing." (I use "quotes" for things that I don't like, as you might have noticed.) The idea of the one inning closer is an artificial creation where managers use pitchers according to the definition of a "save." Isn't the statistic supposed to reflect what happens in the game, not vice versa?

    By the way, I'm not saying that Mariano hasn't been a great, Hall of Fame, pitcher. But, for two examples of what I'm talking about:
    -Mariano, the greatest closer ever, was a failed starting pitcher. You can never be a successful starter with one pitch, no matter how good it is.
    -In 2007 the Phillies converted Brett Myers, a mediocre starting pitcher, to a closer and he was basically lights out the whole year.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,821
    So you honestly think the "save" is a respectable statistic? Is there anything notable about coming into a game and getting 3 outs without giving up 3 runs? Any team up by 3 runs going into the 9th inning wins something like 98% of the time. And that percentage hasn't change since the popularization of the "closer."

    "Closers" are generally some of the most overrated players in all of sports. Somebody (Jayson Stark maybe?) mentioned Craig Kimbrell as an NL Cy Young candidate and I threw up in my mouth. Starting a game and going through a lineup 3 or 4 times is many degrees more difficult than "closing." (I use "quotes" for things that I don't like, as you might have noticed.) The idea of the one inning closer is an artificial creation where managers use pitchers according to the definition of a "save." Isn't the statistic supposed to reflect what happens in the game, not vice versa?

    By the way, I'm not saying that Mariano hasn't been a great, Hall of Fame, pitcher. But, for two examples of what I'm talking about:
    -Mariano, the greatest closer ever, was a failed starting pitcher. You can never be a successful starter with one pitch, no matter how good it is.
    -In 2007 the Phillies converted Brett Myers, a mediocre starting pitcher, to a closer and he was basically lights out the whole year.

    And Johnny, while your at it, what are your thoughts on the DH?
  • Cliffy6745 wrote:
    And Johnny, while your at it, what are your thoughts on the DH?

    :lol:

    And this year we have, ta da, the rookie DH. :roll:
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,104

    So you honestly think the "save" is a respectable statistic? Is there anything notable about coming into a game and getting 3 outs without giving up 3 runs? Any team up by 3 runs going into the 9th inning wins something like 98% of the time. And that percentage hasn't change since the popularization of the "closer."

    "Closers" are generally some of the most overrated players in all of sports. Somebody (Jayson Stark maybe?) mentioned Craig Kimbrell as an NL Cy Young candidate and I threw up in my mouth. Starting a game and going through a lineup 3 or 4 times is many degrees more difficult than "closing." (I use "quotes" for things that I don't like, as you might have noticed.) The idea of the one inning closer is an artificial creation where managers use pitchers according to the definition of a "save." Isn't the statistic supposed to reflect what happens in the game, not vice versa?
    I'm with you. I almost think a closer's head is more important than his arm.

    and even tho it's not always a 3 run lead, most pros ought to be able to throw one scoreless inning.
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  • I heard somewhere, I think on MLBN, that Bud Selig is going to ask the new Astros owner to move to the American League.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,104
    I heard somewhere, I think on MLBN, that Bud Selig is going to ask the new Astros owner to move to the American League.
    you misheard...he's asking the phillies :shock: :lol:

    there are a lot of better ways to align the leagues and divisions.....but fuck bud selig :evil:
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  • imalive wrote:
    you misheard...he's asking the phillies :shock: :lol:

    Hopefully 129 years of losing baseball are enough history to merit staying in the National League.

    I believe some of the rationales are as follows:
    -It will make six 5-team divisions. I think the Players Association wants equal divisions before adding a 2nd Wild Card.
    -It will make a natural division rivalry between the Astros & Rangers. And gives Texas another Central time zone team in their division. Also nobody in the NL Central is geographically anywhere near Houston.
    -It will make the interleague scheduling function properly again - it's apparently been fucked up for years because of the Astros vs. Rangers "rivalry" games.
    -Because of the change in ownership, the Astros will not have veto power to prevent moving.
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  • imalive wrote:
    you misheard...he's asking the phillies :shock: :lol:

    Hopefully 129 years of losing baseball are enough history to merit staying in the National League.

    I believe some of the rationales are as follows:
    -It will make six 5-team divisions. I think the Players Association wants equal divisions before adding a 2nd Wild Card.
    -It will make a natural division rivalry between the Astros & Rangers. And gives Texas another Central time zone team in their division. Also nobody in the NL Central is geographically anywhere near Houston.
    -It will make the interleague scheduling function properly again - it's apparently been fucked up for years because of the Astros vs. Rangers "rivalry" games.
    -Because of the change in ownership, the Astros will not have veto power to prevent moving.

    Yeah, for the kind of legs this issue has, I'm starting to think this is more and more of a possibility. I'm actually down with it.
  • Yeah, for the kind of legs this issue has, I'm starting to think this is more and more of a possibility. I'm actually down with it.

    The downsides (which are crap I believe) are:
    -Interleague play will have to happen throughout the season. (Why is this a big deal? it works fine in all other sports.)
    -The Astros will have a lot of west coast games. Well maybe they can start them slightly earlier.
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  • Yeah, for the kind of legs this issue has, I'm starting to think this is more and more of a possibility. I'm actually down with it.

    The downsides (which are crap I believe) are:
    -Interleague play will have to happen throughout the season. (Why is this a big deal? it works fine in all other sports.)
    -The Astros will have a lot of west coast games. Well maybe they can start them slightly earlier.

    I think the biggest thing that comes out of it is whether or not it leaves an open door for the discussion of the DH being used in both leagues. Which would definitely suck.
  • I think the biggest thing that comes out of it is whether or not it leaves an open door for the discussion of the DH being used in both leagues. Which would definitely suck.

    Or the banning of it in both leagues. (one can always hope, right?)
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  • I think the biggest thing that comes out of it is whether or not it leaves an open door for the discussion of the DH being used in both leagues. Which would definitely suck.

    Or the banning of it in both leagues. (one can always hope, right?)

    Exactly. I'm down with this.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Keep the DH and make the NL get with the times. It's more fun with DH.
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  • Newch91 wrote:
    Keep the DH and make the NL get with the times. It's more fun with DH.

    Obviously you're not a baseball fan, just a Yankees fan.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,104
    Newch91 wrote:
    Keep the DH and make the NL get with the times. It's more fun with DH.

    Obviously you're not a baseball fan, just a Yankees fan.
    :lol:
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  • Newch91 wrote:
    Keep the DH and make the NL get with the times. It's more fun with DH.

    Obviously you're not a baseball fan, just a Yankees fan.

    Like most of them. Cliffy's a baseball guy.

    Astros would have more fun in the AL since they already have a DH in Carlos Lee. :lol:
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Newch91 wrote:
    Keep the DH and make the NL get with the times. It's more fun with DH.

    Obviously you're not a baseball fan, just a Yankees fan.
    I hate when it's Interleague play or the World Series. I'm sure you NL fans like the DH when it's interleague play or the World Series.
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  • Newch91 wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Keep the DH and make the NL get with the times. It's more fun with DH.

    Obviously you're not a baseball fan, just a Yankees fan.
    I hate when it's Interleague play or the World Series. I'm sure you NL fans like the DH when it's interleague play or the World Series.

    No, not really. We don't pay guys $10+ mil just to hit. Last time I checked baseball was a two-way game.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    You already know it's an out when a pitcher comes to the plate. Ditch the pitcher and get the DH in the NL.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,838
    Newch91 wrote:
    You already know it's an out when a pitcher comes to the plate. Ditch the pitcher and get the DH in the NL.
    :thumbdown:

    the dh is just an utter abomination.


    for the record, i love watching cliff lee and cole hamels bat.
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