MLB 2024 Off Season

tempo_n_groove

Wobbie said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

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Wobbie said:

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cutz said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

tempo_n_groove said:

lol thank God we all agree w this being a travesty.

a traveshamockery.

I have the feeling Soto is NOT going back to the Yankees…

Where would he go to?  Come to the Halos so we can have one of the best and still suck!

Boston?  Nope.
Toronto?  Big nope but would LOVE that move.
Dodgers?  No way they can afford that.
Mets? C'mon.  
KC would be another great move but that ain't happening.

He'll go whichever team offers the Highest Contract. Simple as that?

I guess playing for a contender has all but lost its muster?

Your list is all legit or semi-legit contenders. It’s not like we’re talking about the Rockies.

or Halos! Sorry, couldn’t resist.

Thats why i said Yankees, Jays and Royals would be good fits. Boston and Mets I just don't see.  The Mets are like the Knicks, all talk about getting someone but can never seal the deal.

I don’t see KC or Jays as being contenders. KC can’t afford to build a super team and Vladdy and Bo are dogs.

Vladdy and Bo are dogs? Seriously?  Check their numbers again... Please.  Vlad was on fire where as Bo got hurt.  He won't be like that next year.

“numbers” don’t equal winners.

True, ask Bonds that and my Halos in 02!

mookieblalock

Willy Adames to Giants. Great move for them.

Wobbie

mookieblalock said:

Willy Adames to Giants. Great move for them.

Hope so. He was their target.

Cliffy6745

If this is really above $700 million for Soto, I’m not sure I’m doing that. What else can they do with that contract on the books, especially with what Hal says 

Wobbie

Cliffy6745 said:

If this is really above $700 million for Soto, I’m not sure I’m doing that. What else can they do with that contract on the books, especially with what Hal says 

fucking dodgers didn’t/don’t have trouble adding around their $700M DH. Maybe Soto would defer $68M/yr.

Cliffy6745

lol 

MayDay10

Mets

Jearlpam0925

Wowwww 

Wobbie

guess Hal couldn’t afford him.

pjhawks

$765 million, jesus h christ. 

igotid88

Wobbie said:

guess Hal couldn’t afford him.

They don't have Cohen's wealth. 

Cliffy6745

I’m annoyed because they were right there. What’s bumping up the AAV at that point a bit? Also, wtf do you do after this? 

Same time. You just lost the World Series with him and what else can you do after that.

Wobbie

pjhawks said:

$765 million, jesus h christ. 

just add the golden at bat and I can be done with baseball.

mookieblalock

Yankees offered almost identical money as the Mets. Soto simply thoughts the Mets had a better situation for the next 15 years. 

Say that out loud Yankee fans.

F Me In The Brain

Holy jeebus.  These contracts are wild in how long they have to offer in order to land the star players.

tempo_n_groove

mookieblalock said:

Yankees offered almost identical money as the Mets. Soto simply thoughts the Mets had a better situation for the next 15 years. 

Say that out loud Yankee fans.

I didn't think the Mets did.  Well now Alonso will be gone.  No need for him anymore.

I can not believe he chose the Mets... That short porch in right a Yankee stadium wasn't enticing enough?

Wobbie

mookieblalock said:

Yankees offered almost identical money as the Mets. Soto simply thoughts the Mets had a better situation for the next 15 years. 

Say that out loud Yankee fans.

I just don’t think it’s much fun to play for the yanks.

Cliffy6745

mookieblalock said:

Yankees offered almost identical money as the Mets. Soto simply thoughts the Mets had a better situation for the next 15 years. 

Say that out loud Yankee fans.

That is just not true...total dollars were similar, but very different structures with AAV and the escalators to over $800 million. They presented the contract to the Yankees and they said no. He felt no connection to go back to the Yankees and he took the biggest contact. 

nicknyr15

Yankees fans are so salty right now. 

Wobbie

maybe if donnie was the manager…

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

Holy jeebus.  These contracts are wild in how long they have to offer in order to land the star players.

Not too long ago the owners said they were stopping that.  Guess they changed their minds?

So lets see how the big contracts went so far?

Albert Pujols
Alex Rodriguez 2009 WS
Bobby Bonds
Christian Yelich
Mike Trout
Jacob Degrom
Anthony Rendon
Miguel Cabrera
Shohei Ohtani 2024 WS
Wander Franco...

There are more I'm sure but these come straight to mind.  Only 2 WS among them.  Strasburg and Rodon might be up there too?

tempo_n_groove

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

tempo_n_groove said:

lol thank God we all agree w this being a travesty.

a traveshamockery.

I have the feeling Soto is NOT going back to the Yankees…

Where would he go to?  Come to the Halos so we can have one of the best and still suck!

Boston?  Nope.
Toronto?  Big nope but would LOVE that move.
Dodgers?  No way they can afford that.
Mets? C'mon.  
KC would be another great move but that ain't happening.

He'll go whichever team offers the Highest Contract. Simple as that?

I guess playing for a contender has all but lost its muster?

Your list is all legit or semi-legit contenders. It’s not like we’re talking about the Rockies.

or Halos! Sorry, couldn’t resist.

Thats why i said Yankees, Jays and Royals would be good fits. Boston and Mets I just don't see.  The Mets are like the Knicks, all talk about getting someone but can never seal the deal.

I will gladly eat these words.

Still can't believe the Mets landed him...

mookieblalock

Cliffy6745 said:

mookieblalock said:

Yankees offered almost identical money as the Mets. Soto simply thoughts the Mets had a better situation for the next 15 years. 

Say that out loud Yankee fans.

That is just not true...total dollars were similar, but very different structures with AAV and the escalators to over $800 million. They presented the contract to the Yankees and they said no. He felt no connection to go back to the Yankees and he took the biggest contact. 

You’re splitting hairs here. He only gets 805 if he opts out; which he almost certainly will not do.

At the end of the day, the Yankees offered 760 over 16 years and the Mets offered 765 over 15 years. Lie to yourself and say it was about the money if it makes you feel better.

Cliffy6745

nicknyr15 said:

Yankees fans are so salty right now. 

I'm annoyed, not salty. He took the biggest contract and that's what happens most of the time. It's an absolutely ridiculous contract that is over $300 million more than Ohtani in present day value.  Add in he's going to be a DH for half the contract probably. Insane.

At that point with these dollars, I don't see why the Yankees wouldn't go there, but probably saw that Cohen was never going to back down.

Guess I am a little salty

Cliffy6745

Saw a comparison to KD and the Nets vs. the Knicks.  I'm gonna assume and hope that's how this plays out

tempo_n_groove

mookieblalock said:

Cliffy6745 said:

mookieblalock said:

Yankees offered almost identical money as the Mets. Soto simply thoughts the Mets had a better situation for the next 15 years. 

Say that out loud Yankee fans.

That is just not true...total dollars were similar, but very different structures with AAV and the escalators to over $800 million. They presented the contract to the Yankees and they said no. He felt no connection to go back to the Yankees and he took the biggest contact. 

You’re splitting hairs here. He only gets 805 if he opts out; which he almost certainly will not do.

At the end of the day, the Yankees offered 760 over 16 years and the Mets offered 765 over 15 years. Lie to yourself and say it was about the money if it makes you feel better.

He makes more w less years.  How is that NOT for the money?

Cliffy6745

tempo_n_groove said:

mookieblalock said:

Cliffy6745 said:

mookieblalock said:

Yankees offered almost identical money as the Mets. Soto simply thoughts the Mets had a better situation for the next 15 years. 

Say that out loud Yankee fans.

That is just not true...total dollars were similar, but very different structures with AAV and the escalators to over $800 million. They presented the contract to the Yankees and they said no. He felt no connection to go back to the Yankees and he took the biggest contact. 

You’re splitting hairs here. He only gets 805 if he opts out; which he almost certainly will not do.

At the end of the day, the Yankees offered 760 over 16 years and the Mets offered 765 over 15 years. Lie to yourself and say it was about the money if it makes you feel better.

He makes more w less years.  How is that NOT for the money?

Exactly

Cliffy6745

https://x.com/martinonyc/status/1866167809753100477


If Mets were a non-factor until the very end, yeah, it surely must be about the legacy and future of being a Met and not the money...

nicknyr15

Cliffy6745 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Yankees fans are so salty right now. 

I'm annoyed, not salty. He took the biggest contract and that's what happens most of the time. It's an absolutely ridiculous contract that is over $300 million more than Ohtani in present day value.  Add in he's going to be a DH for half the contract probably. Insane.

At that point with these dollars, I don't see why the Yankees wouldn't go there, but probably saw that Cohen was never going to back down.

Guess I am a little salty

At least he didn’t end up in Boston…. 

Poncier

Wobbie said:

maybe if donnie was the manager…

He'd have signed for veteran minimum.