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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,038
    People are overblowing the expanded replay deal, and I'm a HUUUUUUGE fan of expanding the playoffs as I've wrote about it extensively before.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Replay sucks. Add more umps if necessary.

    Just make playoffs best of 7 in all rounds.

    Done and done. I'm against changing much. Last thing I want is MLB to become the NFL
  • markymark550markymark550 Posts: 5,154
    norm wrote:
    funny that they won't allow a guy like Mark Cuban to own a team because he's "bad for baseball" yet they allowed McCourt to buy the Dodgers...go figure...


    i don't like cuban too much...but how in the world could mark cuban bad for baseball?

    bud selig is an absolute moran.

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    :P

    yeah i don't quite get how he can be bad...although the mavs haven't won a championship, they're consistently been a contender since he has owned them...i'm pretty sure he'd spend whatever it took to make the dodgers the yankees of the west...but you're right, selig is a moron :D
    sorry, been away for a few days and couldn't respond...But basically Selig and the other owners think that way because Cuban doesn't fit the current mold of the 'old boys owner club' plus they are probably looking at all of his antics/run-ins/arguments with Stern and the NBA. Can't let anyone in that would threaten the status quo, right?

    Personally, I think he would be good for the sport. He'd be willing to speak his mind and wouldn't mind trying to shake up the establishment, when it needs some shaking. He's passionate about his teams and knows how to fill the seats, which is something the MLB could use from the looks of some of the stadiums so far. Plus, he can afford to pay his players and unless he just starts making crazy decisions with his money, they wouldn't have to worry about him going bankrupt.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    norm wrote:

    i don't like cuban too much...but how in the world could mark cuban bad for baseball?

    bud selig is an absolute moran.

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    :P

    yeah i don't quite get how he can be bad...although the mavs haven't won a championship, they're consistently been a contender since he has owned them...i'm pretty sure he'd spend whatever it took to make the dodgers the yankees of the west...but you're right, selig is a moron :D
    sorry, been away for a few days and couldn't respond...But basically Selig and the other owners think that way because Cuban doesn't fit the current mold of the 'old boys owner club' plus they are probably looking at all of his antics/run-ins/arguments with Stern and the NBA. Can't let anyone in that would threaten the status quo, right?

    Personally, I think he would be good for the sport. He'd be willing to speak his mind and wouldn't mind trying to shake up the establishment, when it needs some shaking. He's passionate about his teams and knows how to fill the seats, which is something the MLB could use from the looks of some of the stadiums so far. Plus, he can afford to pay his players and unless he just starts making crazy decisions with his money, they wouldn't have to worry about him going bankrupt.

    essentially bud selig is afraid him.

    this should surpise nobody.
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  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    norm wrote:
    Speedy?
    "FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    norm wrote:
    Speedy?

    i don't think he gives a rats ass
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    record low attendance all over the league. not good:

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/artic ... leid=13632
    The Payoff Pitch
    Plenty of Good Seats Still Available

    by Neil deMause

    The young baseball season is already shaping up to be lots of things—the Year of the Great Red Sox Collapse, maybe, or the Year of the Exploding Appendices—but one theme that might actually survive small-sample goofiness to have some legs is the Year the Fans Went Away. MLB attendance has been gradually sliding ever since its peak in 2007, but the early signs this year have been pretty alarming:

    * The Yankees, after their customary Opening Day sellout, set a record-low attendance mark in their second game of the season, with 41,462 tickets sold. They promptly broke that mark the next afternoon against the Tigers (40,574), then again the next night vs. the Twins (40,311), then again the night after that (40,267) before finally pulling out of their nosedive and leveling off just above the 40,000 mark. Still, their average attendance of 41,686, while phenomenal for most other teams, would be lowest in the Bronx since 2001.
    * On the other end of the country (and the Playoff Odds standings), the Mariners saw ticket sales plummet after their home opener, with attendance totals that went: 45,727, 30,309, 21,128, 13,056, 15,500, and finally 12,407 on Wednesday night, setting an all-time Safeco Field low. (The only thing that stopped the skid was the team taking off for Kansas City, where they played to a cozy crowd of 8,811.) At their current rate, the M's would fail to draw two million fans not just for the first time in Safeco history, but for the first time since becoming playoff contenders back at the Kingdome in 1995.
    * The Indians may have started off gangbusters on the field, but they continued their decade-long slide at the ticket window, setting an all-time Progressive Field low in their second game (9,853), then dipping even lower in their third (8,726). When Manny Acta's finest lifted their record to a division-leading 10-4 on Saturday, it was before a paying crowd of 10,714.
    * Other teams setting record lows at their current homes include the Braves last Tuesday (13,865), the Cardinals two weeks ago Monday (32,007), and the Twins last Wednesday (36,286). The Mets barely missed a record, drawing just 24,865 to see the bullpen blow a 4-2 lead to the Rockies last Monday, just above their Citi Field nadir of 24,661 last September. (All this is ticket sales, remember, not turnstile count, so if you were one of the other 500 people there with me to see the Mets take on the Pirates on Tornado Day last fall, your eyes weren't playing tricks on you.)

    There are, as you might expect, lots of hypotheses for why fans have been staying away in unprecedented droves this spring. For one thing, it was the earliest start to the season in major-league history, so it's possible they were just steering clear of cold weather (though the first two record-setting Yankees games came on sunny afternoons with temperatures in the 50s, it was 68 degrees in Atlanta, and Seattle, last I checked, has a roof. Other theories include the crappy economy (and its flip side, high ticket prices), the lure of hi-def TV screens, or the rise of StubHub making it too easy for fair-weather fans to wait until the last minute for a nice day or a favorable pitching matchup.

    Just how bad has attendance really been this season? To see, we need to actually compare attendance-to-date through the same number of home games this year and last year--ticket sales always go up in the summer months, so otherwise you'd be comparing apples to oranges. Fortunately, the good folks at Baseball-Reference have set up a page to do just that.

    Some trends are immediately apparent. First off, attendance is indeed down across baseball: by just under 700 fans per game, or about 2.4 percent. That's right on target with the pace set from 2007 through 2010, when MLB attendance fell a cumulative 8.08 percent. It's worth noting, though, that thanks to the advent of a Thursday Opening Day this season, the 2011 sample to date includes more weekend games than the 2010 one; the dropoff sat at more than 4 percent before this weekend's games, and will likely rise again as we hit the mid-week attendance doldrums again the next few days.

    Second, not all teams are suffering. If your ballclub made it to the World Series last year, for instance, you're doing bang-up business at the box office: the Rangers and Giants top the list of teams with the biggest attendance jumps so far this season. (And the Giants no doubt would be doing even better if they had more tickets to sell: they've sold 99.7 percent of their seats so far this year.) This should come as no surprise, since it's long been the case that teams get their biggest bump in attendance the year after a successful season, as fans rush to the box office to see what they missed.

    That said, an awful lot of teams have seen dramatic drops so far this season. In addition to the single-game record-breakers listed above, there are the Dodgers, whose fans are reputedly either seeking revenge on owner Frank McCourt for his messy divorce or afraid for their lives; the Rays, who have drawn only an average of only 17,491 fans thus far to the Trop, a fall of 28 percent; and the Cubs, whose fans seem to have taken The Onion to heart, leaving Wrigley Field more than one-fifth empty so far this season. All told, a dozen teams have seen four-figure drops in attendance so far this year, and the Indians might have gotten there if only they had more fans to lose in the first place.
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  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    Derek Lowe gettin a DUI last night
    "FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    norm wrote:
    as a giants fan, I wish Bud would have stayed out of this :lol:
    I loved Frank and Jamie!
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    EV LA1 08
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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,600
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    Ha Ha, what an idiot! :lol:
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    Ha Ha, what an idiot! :lol:

    Yeah, thats good stuff. I have always disliked Penny too so I think its awesome.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    The man just has a Mr. Magoo feel to him, like he is perpetually walking into situations that he somehow finds a way to bungle.


    all that needs to be said :lol::lol:
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,600
    MLB standings are amusing. 5 teams with good records: Yanks, Indians, Rox, Phils & Marlins. Then nobody else is more than 3 games over .500. Early May - gotta love it. :lol:
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    norm wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    The man just has a Mr. Magoo feel to him, like he is perpetually walking into situations that he somehow finds a way to bungle.


    all that needs to be said :lol::lol:
    or this: "Baseball fans fall into two camps: those who think he is a malevolent idiot and those who think he is merely an idiot." ...count me in with the first camp. :lol:

    the article spent so much time complimenting him about how good the labor situation is right now. gee, it only took the cancelation of the 1994 world series to get to that point. :roll:

    never been a fan of will leitch too.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Phillies Season-Ticket Holder Stuck With Goddamn Joe Blanton Game Again
    May 4, 2011

    PHILADELPHIA—Philadelphia Phillies fan Rick Kirkland was disappointed to learn Friday that his season-ticket package had once again dealt him a game started by the fifth man in the team’s rotation, Joe Blanton. “Four of five starters are All-Stars, and we get the shitty one again?” said Kirkland, who has had to endure the mediocre Blanton the past eight times he has taken his family to the ballpark. “Do you have any idea what it costs to go to these games? If I wanted my kid to see a guy who will be totally forgotten in a few years struggle to locate an 89-mile-per-hour fastball, I could take him to a college game, for fuck’s sake.” Kirkland did express some hope a rainout might alter the rotation schedule, but when asked about the scenario, Phillies manager Charlie Manuel confirmed he would still start Blanton just to spite the ticket holder.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    norm wrote:
    Phillies Season-Ticket Holder Stuck With Goddamn Joe Blanton Game Again
    May 4, 2011

    PHILADELPHIA—Philadelphia Phillies fan Rick Kirkland was disappointed to learn Friday that his season-ticket package had once again dealt him a game started by the fifth man in the team’s rotation, Joe Blanton. “Four of five starters are All-Stars, and we get the shitty one again?” said Kirkland, who has had to endure the mediocre Blanton the past eight times he has taken his family to the ballpark. “Do you have any idea what it costs to go to these games? If I wanted my kid to see a guy who will be totally forgotten in a few years struggle to locate an 89-mile-per-hour fastball, I could take him to a college game, for fuck’s sake.” Kirkland did express some hope a rainout might alter the rotation schedule, but when asked about the scenario, Phillies manager Charlie Manuel confirmed he would still start Blanton just to spite the ticket holder.

    I can't tell if this is real or fake. Definitely believable
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    The Fixer wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Phillies Season-Ticket Holder Stuck With Goddamn Joe Blanton Game Again
    May 4, 2011

    PHILADELPHIA—Philadelphia Phillies fan Rick Kirkland was disappointed to learn Friday that his season-ticket package had once again dealt him a game started by the fifth man in the team’s rotation, Joe Blanton. “Four of five starters are All-Stars, and we get the shitty one again?” said Kirkland, who has had to endure the mediocre Blanton the past eight times he has taken his family to the ballpark. “Do you have any idea what it costs to go to these games? If I wanted my kid to see a guy who will be totally forgotten in a few years struggle to locate an 89-mile-per-hour fastball, I could take him to a college game, for fuck’s sake.” Kirkland did express some hope a rainout might alter the rotation schedule, but when asked about the scenario, Phillies manager Charlie Manuel confirmed he would still start Blanton just to spite the ticket holder.

    I can't tell if this is real or fake. Definitely believable

    click the link ;)
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    norm wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Phillies Season-Ticket Holder Stuck With Goddamn Joe Blanton Game Again
    May 4, 2011

    PHILADELPHIA—Philadelphia Phillies fan Rick Kirkland was disappointed to learn Friday that his season-ticket package had once again dealt him a game started by the fifth man in the team’s rotation, Joe Blanton. “Four of five starters are All-Stars, and we get the shitty one again?” said Kirkland, who has had to endure the mediocre Blanton the past eight times he has taken his family to the ballpark. “Do you have any idea what it costs to go to these games? If I wanted my kid to see a guy who will be totally forgotten in a few years struggle to locate an 89-mile-per-hour fastball, I could take him to a college game, for fuck’s sake.” Kirkland did express some hope a rainout might alter the rotation schedule, but when asked about the scenario, Phillies manager Charlie Manuel confirmed he would still start Blanton just to spite the ticket holder.

    I can't tell if this is real or fake. Definitely believable

    click the link ;)

    this is hillarious.

    i'm going tonight and get to see one, vance worley on the hill. :lol:
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,600
    norm wrote:
    Phillies Season-Ticket Holder Stuck With Goddamn Joe Blanton Game Again
    May 4, 2011

    PHILADELPHIA—Philadelphia Phillies fan Rick Kirkland was disappointed to learn Friday that his season-ticket package had once again dealt him a game started by the fifth man in the team’s rotation, Joe Blanton. “Four of five starters are All-Stars, and we get the shitty one again?” said Kirkland, who has had to endure the mediocre Blanton the past eight times he has taken his family to the ballpark. “Do you have any idea what it costs to go to these games? If I wanted my kid to see a guy who will be totally forgotten in a few years struggle to locate an 89-mile-per-hour fastball, I could take him to a college game, for fuck’s sake.” Kirkland did express some hope a rainout might alter the rotation schedule, but when asked about the scenario, Phillies manager Charlie Manuel confirmed he would still start Blanton just to spite the ticket holder.

    Almost as bad as the year I got 5 straight Adam Eaton games. :roll: :lol:
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    From Jon Heyman. I guess he doesn't know that howard's contract doesn't even start until 2012 (god that is fucking terrible). at least he backs up his point with the all important RBI total :? . what a dipshit.



    It's early in Ryan Howard's $125 million contract. But Howard, who has a league-leading 29 RBIs, is worth every penny so far.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,600
    The Fixer wrote:
    From Jon Heyman. I guess he doesn't know that howard's contract doesn't even start until 2012 (god that is fucking terrible). at least he backs up his point with the all important RBI total :? . what a dipshit.

    It's early in Ryan Howard's $125 million contract. But Howard, who has a league-leading 29 RBIs, is worth every penny so far.

    :lol:

    I'm a Howard supporter and even I wouldn't go that far. Heyman's an idiot.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    Is (are :lol: ) the Tribe for real :? ? They just keep winning.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    love watching papelbon stink up the joint
  • redpointredpoint Posts: 52
    imalive wrote:
    Is (are :lol: ) the Tribe for real :? ? They just keep winning.

    Yes! Yes! I mean, I hope so! I'm a Cleveland sports fan - it's our turn to have a winning team at something for Christ's sake...

    What I'm liking about the Tribe this year is there are no real big standouts - the entire team is playing together above average (not awesome, but above average). If they can keep consistent we'll be in good shape.

    I heard a stat the other day that if Cleveland keeps playing .500 ball from here on out, the Tigers and Royals would have to win 20+ games over .500 to take the division. Not sure how they came up with that if they're only 4.5 games back though.

    Go Tribe!
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Bryce Harper is an absolute tool, but I am looking foward to watching this kid hit.

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/ ... ly-league/
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