I will never in my life understand the line of thinking that roots for the owners over the players everyone loves watch play. It’s fucking mind boggling.
Yeah the MLB union should be more like the bitch ass NFL union where former players are going brain dead and teams can drop players whenever they want
Who gives a shit about rooting interests between billionaire owners and millionaire players? They're all a bunch of fucking idiots for dropping the ball like this.
saw a story on Twitter that Mookie Betts becomes a free agent after this year even if there is no season. so he may never play a game for the Dodgers. If that is true kind of funny.
Yep. Makes a lopsided trade in the Dodgers' favor become a lopsided trade in the Red Sox' favor when he signs with the Braves.
I see I'm not the only one who said the Braves.
Braves make a offer in the neighborhood of other teams I won't be surprised if Mookie went to the Braves. But do they have the money?
I will never in my life understand the line of thinking that roots for the owners over the players everyone loves watch play. It’s fucking mind boggling.
Yeah the MLB union should be more like the bitch ass NFL union where former players are going brain dead and teams can drop players whenever they want
I don’t root for the owners I just understand the players never win vs the owners. Also most things Scott Boras is for I am against on the basic principal that he is a piece of shit.
And yea it’s the players union fault ex-nfl players have head injuries. Come on cliffy your smarter than that.
I will never in my life understand the line of thinking that roots for the owners over the players everyone loves watch play. It’s fucking mind boggling.
Yeah the MLB union should be more like the bitch ass NFL union where former players are going brain dead and teams can drop players whenever they want
Who gives a shit about rooting interests between billionaire owners and millionaire players? They're all a bunch of fucking idiots for dropping the ball like this.
Fair, but the debate here has been owners vs. players.
I will never in my life understand the line of thinking that roots for the owners over the players everyone loves watch play. It’s fucking mind boggling.
Yeah the MLB union should be more like the bitch ass NFL union where former players are going brain dead and teams can drop players whenever they want
I don’t root for the owners I just understand the players never win vs the owners. Also most things Scott Boras is for I am against on the basic principal that he is a piece of shit.
And yea it’s the players union fault ex-nfl players have head injuries. Come on cliffy your smarter than that.
the problem with MLB and this is, their salaries are not tied to revenues and therefore, they don't get a full look at league revenue. Lots of mistrust and there isnt that locked-in point and mutual benefit to recuperating as much as possible for both sides.
I will never in my life understand the line of thinking that roots for the owners over the players everyone loves watch play. It’s fucking mind boggling.
Yeah the MLB union should be more like the bitch ass NFL union where former players are going brain dead and teams can drop players whenever they want
I don’t root for the owners I just understand the players never win vs the owners. Also most things Scott Boras is for I am against on the basic principal that he is a piece of shit.
And yea it’s the players union fault ex-nfl players have head injuries. Come on cliffy your smarter than that.
That Boras wanted to pay his people when baseball won't? Yeah, sure, I think that is admirable. You seem to be really opposed to people getting paid.
For what? lol. We're not talking about some slimy middle of the road agent. Dude is the owner of one of the top few most powerful sports agencies in the world and probably one of the 5 most powerful people in baseball. Dude ain't taking some random fall.
There are really two people I don't get the hate for in sports, Scott Boras and Joe Buck (since he has grown into himself)
He's so much better now than before, in part, because he's not as uptight as he used to be. That whole hair plug thing really kind of changed him for the better.
He's so much better now than before, in part, because he's not as uptight as he used to be. That whole hair plug thing really kind of changed him for the better.
Seeing him outside of his announcing job and how funny he can be changed my opinion of him. He may still be a douche, but he a really funny one.
He's so much better now than before, in part, because he's not as uptight as he used to be. That whole hair plug thing really kind of changed him for the better.
Was super uptight. Realized he didn't need to be his dad and got better. Plus, yeah, plugs gave him more confidence it seems lol
Here's my thing with all of this. I think they are going to play baseball. There is too much money to lose for everyone. I think that no one will remember this when all is said and done, which is why I haven't gotten all worked up over it. It's just a product of the 24 hour news cycle.
saw a story on Twitter that Mookie Betts becomes a free agent after this year even if there is no season. so he may never play a game for the Dodgers. If that is true kind of funny.
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That Boras wanted to pay his people when baseball won't? Yeah, sure, I think that is admirable. You seem to be really opposed to people getting paid.
For what? lol. We're not talking about some slimy middle of the road agent. Dude is the owner of one of the top few most powerful sports agencies in the world and probably one of the 5 most powerful people in baseball. Dude ain't taking some random fall.
There are really two people I don't get the hate for in sports, Scott Boras and Joe Buck (since he has grown into himself)
he's slimy as fuck. just hasn't had anyone get their screws in him yet. it will happen eventually and he will go down hard. patience my friend.
and minor league players have been getting screwed for years but now Boras cares about them?
That Boras wanted to pay his people when baseball won't? Yeah, sure, I think that is admirable. You seem to be really opposed to people getting paid.
For what? lol. We're not talking about some slimy middle of the road agent. Dude is the owner of one of the top few most powerful sports agencies in the world and probably one of the 5 most powerful people in baseball. Dude ain't taking some random fall.
There are really two people I don't get the hate for in sports, Scott Boras and Joe Buck (since he has grown into himself)
he's slimy as fuck. just hasn't had anyone get their screws in him yet. it will happen eventually and he will go down hard. patience my friend.
and minor league players have been getting screwed for years but now Boras cares about them?
The dude has one job and he has built one of the biggest agencies on the face of the planet. He’s had people coming for him for 20 years. Pretty sure he’s in the clear.
You sound like a hater. Don’t like sports agents, don’t like players making money...
That Boras wanted to pay his people when baseball won't? Yeah, sure, I think that is admirable. You seem to be really opposed to people getting paid.
For what? lol. We're not talking about some slimy middle of the road agent. Dude is the owner of one of the top few most powerful sports agencies in the world and probably one of the 5 most powerful people in baseball. Dude ain't taking some random fall.
There are really two people I don't get the hate for in sports, Scott Boras and Joe Buck (since he has grown into himself)
he's slimy as fuck. just hasn't had anyone get their screws in him yet. it will happen eventually and he will go down hard. patience my friend.
and minor league players have been getting screwed for years but now Boras cares about them?
The dude has one job and he has built one of the biggest agencies on the face of the planet. He’s had people coming for him for 20 years. Pretty sure he’s in the clear.
You sound like a hater. Don’t like sports agents, don’t like players making money...
actually in normal times I don't care how much money pro players make. In fact I usually will defend how much pro players make because I understand it comes from the demand that us fans provide (dumbest argument in the world is look at how much athletes make compared to teachers). that being said I think in the case of a global pandemic, where no fans can attend games, alas shrinking demand, the fact that players will not even consider working with the owners on costs I have a problem with. and a big part of that stance comes from Boras.
I acknowledge Boras is great for his clients, but he is bad for the game. As a Yankees fan I get it, you don't give a shit that 28 teams can't afford to have the top stars (or more than 1) on their payroll, but don't tell me that is good for the game. it's just not in my opinion.
You can turn that around about a number of things relative to players asking questions. We've had the discussion....I don't believe what the owners are saying.
Also....my business is down more than 40% as are a lot. If people are playing we are paying.
When we make more in a normal year we don't pay them more in accordance. That is why we are owners and take that risk.
You can turn that around about a number of things relative to players asking questions. We've had the discussion....I don't believe what the owners are saying.
Also....my business is down more than 40% as are a lot. If people are playing we are paying.
When we make more in a normal year we don't pay them more in accordance. That is why we are owners and take that risk.
I think most reasonable people can understand revenues drive pay...well maybe not baseball players. So for your employees no extra bonuses in big years? So i get paid the same if company does good or great? So no incentive to be great I guess is what you are saying.
You can turn that around about a number of things relative to players asking questions. We've had the discussion....I don't believe what the owners are saying.
Also....my business is down more than 40% as are a lot. If people are playing we are paying.
When we make more in a normal year we don't pay them more in accordance. That is why we are owners and take that risk.
I think most reasonable people can understand revenues drive pay...well maybe not baseball players. So for your employees no extra bonuses in big years? So i get paid the same if company does good or great? So no incentive to be great I guess is what you are saying.
We don’t really have to go over the difference between a bonus and a salary do we? Baseball players get bonuses when their company does well too
You can turn that around about a number of things relative to players asking questions. We've had the discussion....I don't believe what the owners are saying.
Also....my business is down more than 40% as are a lot. If people are playing we are paying.
When we make more in a normal year we don't pay them more in accordance. That is why we are owners and take that risk.
I think most reasonable people can understand revenues drive pay...well maybe not baseball players. So for your employees no extra bonuses in big years? So i get paid the same if company does good or great? So no incentive to be great I guess is what you are saying.
We don’t really have to go over the difference between a bonus and a salary do we? Baseball players get bonuses when their company does well too
Nope but you might want to reread the post that I was replying too. I took it to mean his business doesn’t give extra in good years but maybe I’m misinterpreting.
If you are commission or bonus eligible you get it. Part of the deal and with bonus specifically, it is a drop in the bucket. Do well and keep getting your good salary
Don't and get fired.
The majority of people working don't get more if their companies do well. Don't fool yourself.
People don't own businesses, in general, as charity.
Cliffy is right - this is about salary and not bonus structure.
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Braves make a offer in the neighborhood of other teams I won't be surprised if Mookie went to the Braves. But do they have the money?
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlbpa-asks-agent-scott-boras-not-to-pay-salaries-of-released-minor-league-clients-per-report/
Not their fault their players play a violent sport, but surely their fault they don't have healthcare or pensions.
Boras is one of these guys who will eventually take a fall...and it will be big and glorious.
For what? lol. We're not talking about some slimy middle of the road agent. Dude is the owner of one of the top few most powerful sports agencies in the world and probably one of the 5 most powerful people in baseball. Dude ain't taking some random fall.
There are really two people I don't get the hate for in sports, Scott Boras and Joe Buck (since he has grown into himself)
Looks like owners are starting to come around....
He's so much better now than before, in part, because he's not as uptight as he used to be. That whole hair plug thing really kind of changed him for the better.
He may still be a douche, but he a really funny one.
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and minor league players have been getting screwed for years but now Boras cares about them?
You sound like a hater. Don’t like sports agents, don’t like players making money...
I acknowledge Boras is great for his clients, but he is bad for the game. As a Yankees fan I get it, you don't give a shit that 28 teams can't afford to have the top stars (or more than 1) on their payroll, but don't tell me that is good for the game. it's just not in my opinion.
We've had the discussion....I don't believe what the owners are saying.
Also....my business is down more than 40% as are a lot. If people are playing we are paying.
When we make more in a normal year we don't pay them more in accordance. That is why we are owners and take that risk.
Do well and keep getting your good salary
Don't and get fired.
The majority of people working don't get more if their companies do well. Don't fool yourself.
People don't own businesses, in general, as charity.
Cliffy is right - this is about salary and not bonus structure.